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A simply proof the BYP are not real - Alan Ford - 09-02-2018
Talk about attention to detail! Amid the obvious differences, the thing that stands out to me is one rifle bears more woodstock than chrome (and, of course, vice-versa). I read somewhere too that the late Jack White (RIP) believed the rifle slings were different as well.
Another credible source for the musical rifles escapades is seasoned JFK researcher Gil Jesus.
A simply proof the BYP are not real - John Johnson - 14-02-2018
The Oswald figure in CE 133B is holding the rifle at a nearly vertical angle with the muzzle clearly reaching above Oswald's head. The shadow, however, shows the rifle held in a nearly horizontal angle, and there is no way the muzzle would be cast above the head.
A simply proof the BYP are not real - John Johnson - 14-02-2018
This is my first time posting and I am trying to figure out how to get the photo together with my reply.
CE 133-B shows the gunman holding the rifle at a nearly vertical angle with the muzzle clearly reaching above the head. The shadow shows the rifle in a rather horizontal plane and the muzzle would not reach above Oswald's head.
A simply proof the BYP are not real - David Josephs - 14-02-2018
John Johnson Wrote:This is my first time posting and I am trying to figure out how to get the photo together with my reply.
CE 133-B shows the gunman holding the rifle at a nearly vertical angle with the muzzle clearly reaching above the head. The shadow shows the rifle in a rather horizontal plane and the muzzle would not reach above Oswald's head.
The camera, on the same horizontal plane as the subject shows the rifle near vertical...
The sun, on the other hand, is over 35 degrees higher and over the camera's right shoulder....
From above.. the same image shows the rifle more horizontal...
The rifle is almost perpendicular to the sun, from overhead and off to the side.... iow, horizontal.
Why the shadows don't match... and why the 3 photos are a scam
1st off is the fact Gus ROSE gives JB Hicks 2 negatives...
Hicks prints 12 photos and returns the negatives (plural) to Rose. That is the last anyone sees the second negative... let alone a third negative for 133-C
note: The notation at the bottom is not on all versions of this document....
2nd - Remember the Ghost/Cutout image of the BYP found at the DPD?
Well the cutout is in the same shape as Det Brown's 133-C position, except 133-C was found in the possession of Roscoe White's wife at the end of 1976.. with Stovall also having a personal copy. one has to wonder, if that pose and photo were not involved or included in ANY of the evidence in the WCR...
How do they know to position Det Brown and the cutout in THAT pose? They shouldn't even know of this third photo let alone know what the man's position was...
3rd...
We are to remember that what we usually see of these images is the LIFE version, which was retouched "to bring out detail"... Included in this composite is the quick double check of a Dartmouth professor's work claiming the stance in the image was not manipulated and that a person can stand like that... except the models he creates... well, you'll see,
and 4th
When one tries to replace Oswald in the GHOST image, a very strange thing occurs: not only does it not work, what are those guidelines on either side of the cutout?
Any ideas why the cutout works in the image, but the photo does not... ?
A simply proof the BYP are not real - David Josephs - 14-02-2018
If interested, this delves deeply into the subject...
https://statick2k-5f2f.kxcdn.com/images/pdf/JosephsBYP.pdf
I'd recommend Jeff Carter's series at the same site... www.KennedysandKing.com
A simply proof the BYP are not real - John Johnson - 16-02-2018
The House Select Committee On Assassinations conducted experiments in transposing heads on photos to see if the results could be detected.
Here is one of the photos. Never mind the head; look at the shadow.The man is holding a broomstick with the end reaching above his head. The shadow faithfully mimics this. But in CE 133-B, the person is holding the rifle at a steep vertical angle with the muzzle clearly extended above the head, but the shadow shows the rifle held in a nearly horizontal plane with no possibility of the muzzle reaching above the head.
A simply proof the BYP are not real - Ray Mitcham - 16-02-2018
John Johnson Wrote:The House Select Committee On Assassinations conducted experiments in transposing heads on photos to see if the results could be detected.
Here is one of the photos. Never mind the head; look at the shadow.The man is holding a broomstick with the end reaching above his head. The shadow faithfully mimics this. But in CE 133-B, the person is holding the rifle at a steep vertical angle with the muzzle clearly extended above the head, but the shadow shows the rifle held in a nearly horizontal plane with no possibility of the muzzle reaching above the head.
Strange photo montage. Both seem to be exactly the same but with different heads, (apart from some slight cropping at right edge.) How come? Was Oswald's head transferred to the left photo, or was the left person's head pasted on the body in the right photo?
p.s I have been asked by another member of the forum to remove the photo for his safety sake.
A simply proof the BYP are not real - Tracy Riddle - 16-02-2018
The Backyard Photos are obvious (and not even very good) fakes, and that's been proven since the late 1960s. But outside of the circle of JFK researchers, it's never been a very important issue to most people. Unless the larger world cares about it, we're just preaching to our own choir about this.
A simply proof the BYP are not real - Ray Mitcham - 16-02-2018
Tracy Riddle Wrote:The Backyard Photos are obvious (and not even very good) fakes, and that's been proven since the late 1960s. But outside of the circle of JFK researchers, it's never been a very important issue to most people. Unless the larger world cares about it, we're just preaching to our own choir about this.
Quite, Tracy, but we have to keep prodding away until people realise the truth.
I'd love a LN supporter to try explain the above photo.