+- Deep Politics Forum (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora)
+-- Forum: Deep Politics Forum (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/forum-1.html)
+--- Forum: Players, organisations, and events of deep politics (https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/forum-32.html)
+--- Thread: The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair (/thread-15786.html)
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - David Guyatt - 29-03-2018
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - Peter Lemkin - 29-03-2018
It was a bad batch.....or had special delayed action properties....or wasn't at the home on the doorknob...I find it strange that both of them would have been affected...usually when two people leave a house, only one closes the door....and the length of time it took is just too long...not to mention that even the first symptoms would not make them want to sit and eat a meal - but get medical help FAST. The story doesn't fit. Why would the policeman be at their home?! Did he have dinner with them and thus was available to 'rescue' them from the bench as we were led to believe - though affected himself. We have entered Alice in Wonderland territory with the latest explanations..... And how does one square all the different versions - poison at the restaurant - poison a power in the car ventilation - poison on the door knob or in the home; not to mention the shifting position and 'role' of the policeman.
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - Paul Rigby - 29-03-2018
David Guyatt Wrote:Only yesterday I pointed out a significant inconsistency with the Skripal story by posting a Daily Telegraph story of 9th March 2018 --- 20 days ago, one day short of 3 weeks - that the Novichok attack took place at the Skripal's home (see above).
The inconsistency was this: how come a military grade version (the deadliest version) of the deadliest nerve agent in the world --- that kills within seconds --- didn't even impact either of the Skripal's for several hours? Long enough for both of them to saunter out and enjoy a lunch at Zizzi restaurant and then go for a post prandial stroll before the agent took effect and they collapsed on a park bench.
Today, there is another glaring inconsistency.
Firstly, I'll simply note that news that was on the front page of the Telegraph three weeks ago is today the new front page news on most British newspapers. Authorities now state that the Novichok was placed on the front door handle of Sergei Skripal's house in Salisbury.
Those who have followed the story will recall news stories hauling away the taxi the Skripal's returned from the airport in the day before the attack. They will recall that Sergie Skripal's own car was also hauled away to Porton Down for inspection. Likewise the park bench on which they both collapsed. And, I believe, lesser items were also taken away for investigation and analysis.
In today's telegraph newspaper blaring out three week old news as new news, we see two uniformed Plod guarding the Skripal home.
And there in the aerial video is the Skripal's front door. Bare. Unsealed. No protective measures at all.
The boys from propaganda central (77 Brigade I guess) have missed a trick here. By rights that door should be an ex-parrot; it should not be present (even if the nerve agent has also expired). The "Norwegian Blue" of front doors should already be sitting in Novichok gulag at Porton Down - being inspected and analysed and subject to all sorts of high-cost spectroscopes and similar machines that go ping!
But there it sits. Whoops.
More balls ups than at a Central Office Christmas bash. What is to be done?
I know - promotions all round!
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - David Guyatt - 30-03-2018
Peter Lemkin Wrote:It was a bad batch.....or had special delayed action properties....or wasn't at the home on the doorknob...I find it strange that both of them would have been affected...usually when two people leave a house, only one closes the door....and the length of time it took is just too long...not to mention that even the first symptoms would not make them want to sit and eat a meal - but get medical help FAST. The story doesn't fit. Why would the policeman be at their home?! Did he have dinner with them and thus was available to 'rescue' them from the bench as we were led to believe - though affected himself. We have entered Alice in Wonderland territory with the latest explanations..... And how does one square all the different versions - poison at the restaurant - poison a power in the car ventilation - poison on the door knob or in the home; not to mention the shifting position and 'role' of the policeman.
My precise thoughts too Pete, re contact with the door handle. It doesn't make sense. Ditto the length of time. My best guess is that it happened elsewhere.
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - David Guyatt - 30-03-2018
Btw, we learn this morning on Sky News (but nowhere else that I can find - tv or print) but in passing only, that the offending front door has now been boarded up, possibly removed. A video-copter flew over the front of the house and showed large parts of the property had been boarded over, in fact, including the front garden.
Is anyone surprised? Not me, for one.
The way the details on this story are being released by the authorities to an uncritical and compliant media screams agenda management not criminal investigation.
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - Peter Lemkin - 30-03-2018
David Guyatt Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:It was a bad batch.....or had special delayed action properties....or wasn't at the home on the doorknob...I find it strange that both of them would have been affected...usually when two people leave a house, only one closes the door....and the length of time it took is just too long...not to mention that even the first symptoms would not make them want to sit and eat a meal - but get medical help FAST. The story doesn't fit. Why would the policeman be at their home?! Did he have dinner with them and thus was available to 'rescue' them from the bench as we were led to believe - though affected himself. We have entered Alice in Wonderland territory with the latest explanations..... And how does one square all the different versions - poison at the restaurant - poison a power in the car ventilation - poison on the door knob or in the home; not to mention the shifting position and 'role' of the policeman.
My precise thoughts too Pete, re contact with the door handle. It doesn't make sense. Ditto the length of time. My best guess is that it happened elsewhere.
Well, if they did get some kind of nerve poison and they were found under its effects on the bench, one can be sure that they contacted the agent NOT LONG BEFORE they got to the bench, if not on the bench they contacted it. I have not seen a timeline presented - has anyone else? So, I'd say as they were or just before leaving the restaurant; or between the restaurant and the bench [which I believe is not far from the restaurant]. Usually in such 'capers' one sees a timeline and a diagram of their movements from place to place - none are being provided and I find that suspicious - along with all the variations in events, location of said nerve agent, location of policeman, etc.
Now they are reporting that his daughter is getting well and even talking to hospital staff......that will be one for the bio-warfare experts to write about. Few recover normal function after exposure to such agents. Nothing fits here, and the media is not doing its work to point this out....they are simply repeating and printing what 'anonymous officials' are telling them.
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - Jan van den Baard - 30-03-2018
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/she-is-risen-last-act-of-novichok-drama-revealed-the-skripals-resurrection.html#more
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - Peter Lemkin - 31-03-2018
Another very interesting post on Novichok agents, who built them and who has them - or the ability to create them:
http://www.moonofalabama.org/2018/03/russian-scientists-explain-novichok-high-time-for-britain-to-come-clean.html
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - Peter Lemkin - 31-03-2018
Some 'great' [sic] myth making on the 'most progressive' of the US MSM outlets. [but the best bits are British interviews]. They have a timeline and show [if a bit quickly] the path from home to park bench the Skripals took. They even question and put to rest the idea that someone else could have made a 'Russian' nerve agent. But given the fact that Skripal's daughter is getting better, one has to wonder if any nerve agent was involved at all.... look for Friday's [31st] Rachel Maddow Show http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show
The Skripal Poisoning - A Very Deep British Affair - David Guyatt - 31-03-2018
Paul Rigby Wrote:More balls ups than at a Central Office Christmas bash. What is to be done?
I know - promotions all round!
Excellent news - promotion means pay rises. I'm off to the pub to celebrate!