Magda Hassan Wrote:Doug Coe can say what he likes to NBC. The Family is anti-democratic, patriarchal, authoritarian with fascist tendencies, is secretive and unaccountable and unprincipled and work like a cancer in society quietly seeking to undermine all universal progress and protections in the area of human rights, workers rights, women's rights and those of other non-elite groups. It wants to create a theocratic dictatorship with them and their chosen at the centre and everyone else like serfs to serve the elite. This is fact and they have achieved much. Until people wake up to this and deal with it there will be nothing left and it will be a fait acompli. They are not restricted to the US and have been busy for decades cultivating what they call key men in other countries including the '3rd world'. Wayne Madsen's article refers to the possibility that Blair and Howard were involved with this group and this would not surprise me. Even if Blair is involved with Opus Dei as well, as I believe, this group have no problems working with any other religion or denomination. They will work with anyone. What they want is power and they work through these channels. It is through this group and it hidden operatives in government and other positions of influence that a straight forward biographical movie about Charles Darwin, son of a preacher and a natural philosopher of the 19th century cannot be distributed in the US. I really think it is time to get serious about these guys. It is war. I have no issues with people's personal religious beliefs and the comfort that many find in religion but for too long there have been too many excuses made for religion. It should be a strictly personal matter and the public sphere should be for all the people and come with full transparency and accountability.

Keith Millea Wrote:

Magda Hassan Wrote:Doug Coe can say what he likes to NBC. The Family is anti-democratic, patriarchal, authoritarian with fascist tendencies, is secretive and unaccountable and unprincipled and work like a cancer in society quietly seeking to undermine all universal progress and protections in the area of human rights, workers rights, women's rights and those of other non-elite groups. It wants to create a theocratic dictatorship with them and their chosen at the centre and everyone else like serfs to serve the elite. This is fact and they have achieved much. Until people wake up to this and deal with it there will be nothing left and it will be a fait acompli. They are not restricted to the US and have been busy for decades cultivating what they call key men in other countries including the '3rd world'. Wayne Madsen's article refers to the possibility that Blair and Howard were involved with this group and this would not surprise me. Even if Blair is involved with Opus Dei as well, as I believe, this group have no problems working with any other religion or denomination. They will work with anyone. What they want is power and they work through these channels. It is through this group and it hidden operatives in government and other positions of influence that a straight forward biographical movie about Charles Darwin, son of a preacher and a natural philosopher of the 19th century cannot be distributed in the US. I really think it is time to get serious about these guys. It is war. I have no issues with people's personal religious beliefs and the comfort that many find in religion but for too long there have been too many excuses made for religion. It should be a strictly personal matter and the public sphere should be for all the people and come with full transparency and accountability.

:dito: Totally

Quote:With or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things. But for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.