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New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Myra Bronstein - 14-09-2009
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1212966/New-Charles-Darwin-film-controversial-American-audiences.html
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 1:22 AM on 13th September 2009
"A new British film about Charles Darwin has failed to land a distribution deal in the States because his theories on human evolution are too controversial for religious American audiences, according to the film's producer.
Creation follows the British naturalist's 'struggle between faith and reason' as he wrote his 1859 book, On The Origin Of The Species.
The film, directed by Jon Amielm was chosen to open the Toronto Film Festival and has now been sold to almost every territory in the world.
But US distributors have turned down the film that could cause uproar in a country that, on the whole, dismisses scientific theories of the way we evolved.
Christian film review website Movieguide.org described Darwin as 'a racist, a bigot and a 1800s naturalist whose legacy is mass murder.'
The site also stated that his 'half-baked theory' influenced Adolf Hitler and led to 'atrocities, crimes against humanity, cloning and generic engineering.'
Jeremy Thomas, the Oscar-winning producer of Creation, said he was astonished that such attitudes exist 150 years after On The Origin of Species was published. 'That's what we're up against. In 2009. It's amazing,' he said.
'The film has no distributor in America. It has got a deal everywhere else in the world but in the US, and it's because of what the film is about. People have been saying this is the best film they've seen all year, yet nobody in the US has picked it up.
'It is unbelievable to us that this is still a really hot potato in America. There's still a great belief that He made the world in six days.
'It's quite difficult for we in the UK to imagine religion in America. We live in a country which is no longer so religious. But in the US, outside of New York and LA, religion rules.
'Charles Darwin is, I suppose, the hero of the film. But we tried to make the film in a very even-handed way. Darwin wasn't saying "kill all religion", he never said such a thing, but he is a totem for people.'
Earlier this week it was revealed how the daughter of The Wire star Dominic West will have her own taste of stardom thanks to the film.
Martha West, 10, will join co-stars Paul Bettany and his wife Jennifer Connelly at the British premiere of Creation, a film about Charles Darwin.
Making her film debut, Martha plays Darwin's daughter Annie, whose death pushed him towards writing about natural selection in The Origin Of Species. She won the role after attending open auditions at the suggestion of her father's agent - despite the British actor's initial misgivings.
West, who plays Detective Jimmy McNulty in the cult American crime series, said: 'It's not something I'd instantly want my children to do, but she's always wanted to act.
'I took her to the audition so she could see what a nightmare it is and she blew the doors off.'
The film's director, Jon Amiel, said: 'I only found out after I cast her that she was Dominic West's daughter.
'It tends to indicate that talent for acting could possibly be genetic - something I'm sure Mr Darwin would have something to say about.'
Martha is West's child with his former partner, Polly Astor. They split when she was a toddler but will both accompany her to the West End premiere at the Curzon Mayfair.
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Jack White - 14-09-2009
Thinking people reject DARWINISM on scientific principles having
nothing to do with religion.
If I had time, I could give you a thousand scientific arguments
against Darwin's mutation theories without ever mentioning
any aspect of religious belief.
Jack
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Charles Drago - 14-09-2009
The Theory of Evolution speaks not a word to, and is not inconsistent with, the spiritual impulse and its revelations.
See Norman Mailer in Harlot's Ghost.
The host of the spirit evolves.
As does its guest.
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Magda Hassan - 15-09-2009
When I read things like this I have to check myself that I am really reading what I think I see. While I am at it I have to remind myself that it is indeed 2009 and that I haven't slipped into a Tardis and come out during the Salem Witch Trials or something. I can only wonder at the future of the USA when things like this occur. What willful ignorance and stupidity abounds there.
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - David Guyatt - 15-09-2009
Magda Hassan Wrote:When I read things like this I have to check myself that I am really reading what I think I see. While I am at it I have to remind myself that it is indeed 2009 and that I haven't slipped into a Tardis and come out during the Salem Witch Trials or something. I can only wonder at the future of the USA when things like this occur. What willful ignorance and stupidity abounds there.
And not uncommonly that ignorance and stupidity takes hold at the top.
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Damien Lloyd - 15-09-2009
Jack White Wrote:Thinking people reject DARWINISM on scientific principles having
nothing to do with religion.
If I had time, I could give you a thousand scientific arguments
against Darwin's mutation theories without ever mentioning
any aspect of religious belief.
Jack
Now I'm curious. Please find the time.
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Jack White - 16-09-2009
It is a waste of time to argue against Darwinism
on the internet. Too many people have had it
indoctrinated into them as "science" for generations
that it goes against their faith. It has been to the
benefit of "someone" to present it as a SCIENCE
VS. RELIGION controversy...when it is has nothing
to do with religion and little to do with science.
Darwinism is actually anti-scientific, in that it does
not use the "scientific method" nor provide for
proof by replication. It ignores the scientific principle
of CAUSE AND EFFECT. No Darwinist has ever provided
proof that all existing life forms were created by
mutation from a single living life form which arose
spontaneously from inert non-living elements. But
those generalities aside, there are thousands of
arguments against Darwinism for its anti-intellectualism.
A far deeper philosophical subject, which Religionists
seek to answer and Darwinists ignore, is WHAT IS THE
NATURE OF LIFE. Religious philosophers mostly agree
that a mysterious unknowable SPIRIT is the basis of
life; most scientists deny the existence of a SPIRT
since science has no means of observing it. But I
observe that at death, a spirit that provided life and
being is no longer present...so the ABSENCE of the
spirit proves its existence.
Jack
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Peter Lemkin - 16-09-2009
David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:When I read things like this I have to check myself that I am really reading what I think I see. While I am at it I have to remind myself that it is indeed 2009 and that I haven't slipped into a Tardis and come out during the Salem Witch Trials or something. I can only wonder at the future of the USA when things like this occur. What willful ignorance and stupidity abounds there.
And not uncommonly that ignorance and stupidity takes hold at the top.
...and has had a tendency to spread - disease-like from shore-to-shinning-shore all over the globe.... Get your Tardis ready to get the **** out of 'here'! There is quite a large crop of hard-hitting controversial political films about to be released between now and the New Year. With the nutty-right all whipped-up against anything they perceive as 'dangerous and subversive', expect to see theater burnings and more.....so much for 'free speech'. It disappeared from the MSM long ago. As for ignorance......it does have some avid adherents there. Witch Trials...now there is a 'good idea'....but don't mention it too loudly, or some may take you up on that! But, whooh!, we haven't cornered the market entirely on stupidity....it seems to be inherent in the species - more so when the education system is completely collapsing.... or being collapsed on purpose.
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Magda Hassan - 16-09-2009
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Yes, it is unfair to cast these aspersions on all people who are born in the US. I have met many lovely and sane people from there. I certainly know that we have our own fair share, perhaps more, of stupidity here. But there really does seem to be such an generous abundance of the stuff overflowing over there. Or perhaps people there are more likely to make idiots of themselves in front of cameras and microphone and such while the Brits and the rest of the commonwealth do this in the privacy of our own homes. Where it belongs. So, while stupidity is definitely a universal human trait it seems it is not distributed evenly.David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:When I read things like this I have to check myself that I am really reading what I think I see. While I am at it I have to remind myself that it is indeed 2009 and that I haven't slipped into a Tardis and come out during the Salem Witch Trials or something. I can only wonder at the future of the USA when things like this occur. What willful ignorance and stupidity abounds there.
And not uncommonly that ignorance and stupidity takes hold at the top.
...and has had a tendency to spread - disease-like from shore-to-shinning-shore all over the globe.... Get your Tardis ready to get the **** out of 'here'! There is quite a large crop of hard-hitting controversial political films about to be released between now and the New Year. With the nutty-right all whipped-up against anything they perceive as 'dangerous and subversive', expect to see theater burnings and more.....so much for 'free speech'. It disappeared from the MSM long ago. As for ignorance......it does have some avid adherents there. Witch Trials...now there is a 'good idea'....but don't mention it too loudly, or some may take you up on that! But, whooh!, we haven't cornered the market entirely on stupidity....it seems to be inherent in the species.
This movie should not be a 'hard-hitting controversial political film' any more than a biographical movie about James Watt, Galileo, Mendelev, Marie Curie or Da Vinci. That's the wonder.
I am looking forward to the hard-hitting controversial political films that are coming up like 'Crude' and 'The Cove' and 'Capitalism - a Love Story' and 'American Casino' Lots to look forward to there.
New Charles Darwin film is 'too controversial' for religious American audiences - Peter Lemkin - 16-09-2009
Magda Hassan Wrote:Peter Lemkin Wrote:Yes, it is unfair to cast these aspersions on all people who are born in the US. I have met many lovely and sane people from there. I certainly know that we have our own fair share, perhaps more, of stupidity here. But there really does seem to be such an generous abundance of the stuff overflowing over there. Or perhaps people there are more likely to make idiots of themselves in front of cameras and microphone and such while the Brits and the rest of the commonwealth do this in the privacy of our own homes. Where it belongs. So, while stupidity is definitely a universal human trait it seems it is not distributed evenly.David Guyatt Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:When I read things like this I have to check myself that I am really reading what I think I see. While I am at it I have to remind myself that it is indeed 2009 and that I haven't slipped into a Tardis and come out during the Salem Witch Trials or something. I can only wonder at the future of the USA when things like this occur. What willful ignorance and stupidity abounds there.
And not uncommonly that ignorance and stupidity takes hold at the top.
...and has had a tendency to spread - disease-like from shore-to-shinning-shore all over the globe.... Get your Tardis ready to get the **** out of 'here'! There is quite a large crop of hard-hitting controversial political films about to be released between now and the New Year. With the nutty-right all whipped-up against anything they perceive as 'dangerous and subversive', expect to see theater burnings and more.....so much for 'free speech'. It disappeared from the MSM long ago. As for ignorance......it does have some avid adherents there. Witch Trials...now there is a 'good idea'....but don't mention it too loudly, or some may take you up on that! But, whooh!, we haven't cornered the market entirely on stupidity....it seems to be inherent in the species.
This movie should not be a 'hard-hitting controversial political film' any more than a biographical movie about James Watt, Galileo, Mendelev, Marie Curie or Da Vinci. That's the wonder.
I am looking forward to the hard-hitting controversial political films that are coming up like 'Crude' and 'The Cove' and 'Capitalism - a Love Story' and 'American Casino' Lots to look forward to there.
We do, however, often really honor stupidity! - even make them President, or put in other positions of power and influence. In some circles in the U.S. being an intellectual, professor or having a college degree [even just being a self-taught intellectual or have innate intelligence] is considered a definite negative. There is a great new book on the dumbing-down of the American Public....name of book escapes me at moment...will locate....I'm too stupid this morning to think. :proud: