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Medical Marijuana - Keith Millea - 22-09-2009 Quote:I don't have nightmares when I smoke pot.:vroam: That is a quote from me in another thread.I would like to expand on this a little.I have expressed my thoughts about smoking pot on the DPF at times.I OPENLY talk about using this herb myself.It is important I think to say that I am for medical purposes Legal to use it.So,members and guests,I do not just say these things to be some smart-ass. When I say I don't have nightmares when I smoke pot,I really mean that.I like many war veterans have PTSD.I am plagued by awful dreams if I don't sleep deeply enough.I take sleep medication to help,but this only helps to some degree.Maybe I get 3-4 hours of good sleep.Now when I combine my medication with smoking pot,I sleep deeply for 8 full hours.NO DREAMS!!!!! Of course,there are other medicinal uses for this herb also.My State(Oregon) has a list of approved ailments that can be used to enter the medical marijuana program.Sleep is not one of them,but as you can tell from my own experience,it works quite well.I just recently heard that my State is considering other ailments that might be approved for this program,but from this news,it was said that PTSD would likely be the only change to the list.I hope this is the case.Veterans have been trying to get PTSD listed for some time now.IT HELPS!We know it helps.We smoke it whether it be legal or not.It is foolish to think that we would not.If that bothers anyone,I will surely lend them some nightmares.... The list of approved medical conditions:
Medical Marijuana - Mark Stapleton - 23-09-2009 And unlike alcohol and prescription drugs, no-one has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. Medical Marijuana - Keith Millea - 23-09-2009 Mark Stapleton Wrote:And unlike alcohol and prescription drugs, no-one has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. That's true Mark.Alcohol unfortunately is the "drug" of choice for most Veterans suffering from PTSD.Alcohol will usually lead to violent behavior,where as Marijuana leads to a more peaceful mental condition.This is why I hope that PTSD will be added to the list of ailments for the medical use of pot.Things are such now,that if a Veteran goes to the VA for help with his/her PTSD,you are expected to begin on some type anti-depressant,or anti-psycotic medication.I have seen the damage this has done to some of my friends.It's not pretty,makes me sad....... Medical Marijuana - Mark Stapleton - 23-09-2009 Yes Keith, it's incredible how benign cannabis is compared to alcohol and other legal drugs. Trouble is, because you can grow cannabis in your backyard or on your balcony there's no way the Government can tax it and make money out of its consumption. They hate the idea of people getting high without giving them a cut. So they establish a massive prohibition bureaucracy (at taxpayer expense) and ruin the lives of many thousands of people for the 'crime' of consuming a harmless herb. Don't worry, the social changes caused by the economic meltdown will be profound, imo. I reckon cannabis will be fully decriminalised within a year or so. Medical Marijuana - David Guyatt - 23-09-2009 Keith, I have no objection to a little Ganja. I've smoked a few recreational joints in my time, but these days don't smoke anything. To be perfectly honest, I didn't find it particularly good or, for that matter, bad either. In fact it didn't have much of an impact. I can understand the comfort it provides in blocking bad dreams, yet it is a real shame that it also blocks "good" dreams. But I suppose that in the last analysis a sound nights rest is so precious that temporary oblivion is a great relief. Medical Marijuana - Keith Millea - 23-09-2009 Quote:Don't worry, the social changes caused by the economic meltdown will be profound, imo. I reckon cannabis will be fully decriminalised within a year or so. Latin America seems to be leading the way.Argentina and Mexico have decrimminalized small amounts of drugs for personal use. http://narcosphere.narconews.com/notebook/kristin-bricker/2009/09/argentina-legalizes-personal-marijuana-use Quote:Supreme Court Decision is Part of a Wave of Decriminalization in Latin America http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/21/world/americas/21mexico.html?_r=1 Mexico Legalizes Drug Possession
Published: August 21, 2009 MEXICO CITY (AP) — Mexico enacted a controversial law on Thursday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, cocaine, heroin and other drugs while encouraging government-financed treatment for drug dependency free of charge. The law sets out maximum “personal use” amounts for drugs, also including LSD and methamphetamine. People detained with those quantities will no longer face criminal prosecution; the law goes into effect on Friday. Anyone caught with drug amounts under the personal-use limit will be encouraged to seek treatment, and for those caught a third time treatment is mandatory — although no penalties for noncompliance are specified. Mexican authorities said the change only recognized the longstanding practice here of not prosecuting people caught with small amounts of drugs. The maximum amount of marijuana considered to be for “personal use” under the new law is 5 grams — the equivalent of about four marijuana cigarettes. Other limits are half a gram of cocaine, 50 milligrams of heroin, 40 milligrams for methamphetamine and 0.015 milligrams of LSD. President Felipe Calderón waited months before approving the law. Medical Marijuana - Keith Millea - 23-09-2009 Quote:But I suppose that in the last analysis a sound nights rest is so precious that temporary oblivion is a great relief. David, That's the operating thesis that drives this machine.I can't even tell you the last time that I had a "good" dream.I'm quite happy to swim into oblivion(no dream).Chasing Ghosts,or are they Chasing Me???Where the Hell is my shadow...........Just Deamin' :goodnight: Medical Marijuana - Jan Klimkowski - 23-09-2009 Keith Millea Wrote:Mark Stapleton Wrote:And unlike alcohol and prescription drugs, no-one has ever died from an overdose of cannabis. Keith - thank you for your openness and integrity. My major knowledge of PTSD is second hand, and comes from making a film with British veterans of the Falklands War. I believe the vast majority of those with whom I had contact would endorse your views in this thread. Alcohol has led many brave men to prison or a life reduced to survival on the streets. Medical Marijuana - Jan Klimkowski - 24-09-2009 From today's Guardian: Quote:Revealed: the hidden army in UK prisons http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/sep/24/jailed-veteran-servicemen-outnumber-troops Medical Marijuana - Keith Millea - 25-09-2009 Well,I finally got hold of someone in the OMMP(Oregon Medical Marijuana Program).The review panel is still debating whether to add PTSD to the list of approved ailments.The law itself,requires this review.PTSD has been turned down before in the review process.Only physical ailments are worthy,psychological problems are deemed unacceptable despite all evidence to the contrary. Much info.below...... http://www.oregonmedicalmarijuanaprogram.com/post_traumatic_stress_disorder Antidepressant drugs are among the most prescribed medications but their adverse side effects can often be paradoxically lethal with suicide being prominent. Todays TV news presents a new electromagnetic machine for depression which stimulates the brain which probably causes cannabinoid secretions which makes patient subjects feel better. It had better, a treatment series costs 6 thousand dollars. Well, I have a surprise for some people. The U.S. Govt says cannabis as an alleged drug causes euphoria which (surprise surprise) causes euphoria which is addicting. Imagine, a very safe replacement for amphetamine, once the most prescribed and addicting mood stimulants being replaced with cannabis. The U.S. Govt estimates about 70 million cannabis users. I have medically interviewed at least 4000 of them. Almost all were long time users. None complained of adverse euphoria. If such a high percentage of the population have clinical depression certainly many of my 4000 patients had depression which unfortunately is not an acceptable condition for an Oregon medical marijuana permit. The Oregon “egg heads” in charge of the program will not accept ANY psychological problem – it must be physical! This is really strange. One of my largest patient groups are PTSD Veterans (about 400 of them). Most found out in Vietnam that cannabis gives best relief for battle stress. Whether battle stress produces/causes depression may be arguable. For a Combat Infantryman his only real relief is a “million dollar wound” which will get him away from certain death. If that doesn’t cause depression nothing will. Anxiety and blood curdling fear are certainly part of this PTSD syndrome. The worst factor is that once a person has PTSD, there is usually no escape…most people know that severe battle Veterans cannot talk about their experiences it hurts too much. When these PTSD Veterans get/got home with nightmares etc., the VA doctors and non-doctors prescribed every kind of drug available. The Vets usually found out most of their drugs made them worse. They rediscovered cannabis but the VA non-doctors said you can’t use illegal drugs (even if they work best) and have VA treatment. How absurd. Believe it or not the VA system is supposed to HELP Vets. In the meantime, with 70 million cannabis users many vets are using. Alternately many are alcoholics or tobacco addicts. Both of these cause hundreds of thousands of deaths. Cannabis has never killed anybody. YES CANNABIS WILL ALLEVIATE DEPRESSION. Got a question or comment for Dr. Leveque? Email him: Newsroom@Salem-News.com source: http://www.salem-news.com/articles/october...eque_102308.php |