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UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Peter Presland - 30-09-2009 I haven't seen reference to this anywhere else yet - par for the course I guess - but the reported UK Foreign Office argument for rejecting the petition to arrest Erhud Barak for war crimes is interesting: Quote:..... the defense minister was a state guest, and therefore was not subject to such lawsuits.I wonder what argument would have been deployed had he NOT been a 'State guest' ? The Israeli statements are exactly the sort of Orwellian inversions we have all come to know and expect: Black is white, Up is down, Right is Wrong, War is Peace, etc etc. Still - my guess is that a lot of Israelis are becoming very wary about foreign travel, which I find mildly encouraging This from The Jerusalem Post: Quote:After a tense day that included intensive consultations between the foreign ministries in Jerusalem and London, a British court on Tuesday rejected a petition urging an arrest warrant for Defense Minister Ehud Barak on the grounds that he committed "war crimes" during the IDF offensive in the Gaza Strip earlier this year. UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - David Guyatt - 30-09-2009 Peter Presland Wrote:I haven't seen reference to this anywhere else yet - par for the course I guess - but the reported UK Foreign Office argument for rejecting the petition to arrest Erhud Barak for war crimes is interesting:Quote:..... the defense minister was a state guest, and therefore was not subject to such lawsuits.I wonder what argument would have been deployed had he NOT been a 'State guest' ? The mind boggles. It seems to suggest that crimes - even terrible ones - don't count if you have made a decision to entertain the perpetrator. Utterly ridiculous and culpable reasoning. UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Jan Klimkowski - 30-09-2009 I wonder if New Labour's apparatchiks will have the nerve to cite the common law precedent supporting their wanton making up of law as they go along. The obvious common law precedent is, of course, Thatcher taking afternoon tea - a very British tradition - with the fascist Condor war criminal and murderer, Generalissimo Pinochet. UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Peter Presland - 05-10-2009 Probably the best place for this. There's no doubt that the Israeli top brass are nervous about foreign travel. They appear to have managed to get the UN to delay a vote on the Goldstone report but, in spite of furious damage-limitation manoeuvrings by their allies at the UN, the writing IS on the wall. They ARE a bunch of bloody war criminals and time is NOT on their side. This from Al-Jazeera: Quote: Israel's vice-prime minister has cancelled a planned trip to London over fears that he could be arrested for alleged war crimes, his spokesman has said.Yaalon has form quite apart from his role in the recent Gaza massacre. He has been indicted by both New Zealand and Spanish courts for earlier alleged crimes. Both courts succumbed to the usual pressure - details on my 'Wanted for War Crimes' blog here UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Peter Presland - 06-10-2009 More on postponement of UN discussion of the Goldstone report. It was done at the request of the PLO leadership. So why would the nominal (though illegitimate since the presidential term expired last January) Palestinian leadership do such a thing? Norman Finkelstein has the answer. It stinks to the heavens but has a solid ring of routine Israeli modus operandi to it. Abu Mazen and his cronies are clearly so compromised that I doubt they will escape with their lives if the general Palestinian population ever get a say in the matter Quote:Ma’ariv (p. 5) by Amit Cohen et al. — A Palestinian press agency claims that the surprising decision by Palestinian Authority officials to postpone the discussion of the Goldstone report in the UN Human Rights Council is the result of an Israeli threat. According to a report by Shihab, the Palestinian Authority refused Israel’s demand that it withdraw its support for the harsh report, which Israel considered one-sided. Following this, Israeli figures showed the PA a series of tapes in which Palestinian Authority officials could be heard urging Israel to continue the operation in Gaza. Israel threatened to reveal the material to media outlets as well as to the UN and this, in turn, resulted in the Palestinian retreat. It was further claimed that the Palestinians were shown footage showing a meeting between Abu Mazen, Defense Minister Ehud Barak and then foreign minister Tzippi Livni. In the course of the meeting, according to the report, Abu Mazen attempted to convince Barak to continue the operation. Barak appeared hesitant whereas Abu Mazen was enthusiastic. In addition, a telephone conversation recording between Abed Al-Rahim, secretary general of the Palestinian Authority and director of Gen. Gabi Ashkenazi’s bureau was presented. The Palestinian senior official can be heard saying that now is the time to bring ground forces into the Jabalya and Shati refugee camps. “The fall of these two camps will bring about the fall of the Hamas regime in Gaza, and will cause them to wave a white flag,” says Abed Al-Rahim. According to the report, Dov Weissglas told Abed Al-Rahim that such a move could result in the deaths of thousands of civilians. “They all voted for Hamas,” says Abed Al-Rahim, “they chose their fate, not us.” Following Hamas’s allegations against him, Abu Mazen ordered the establishment of an investigative committee to examine the cause for the postponement of the discussion of the Goldstone report, which sparked a furor and much criticism in the Palestinian street. Officially, Israel argues that Abu Mazen withdrew his request for the discussion as a result of Netanyahu making it clear that such a move would greatly harm the peace process.PS The Goldstone Report probably warrants a separate thread but I posted this here because of my referral to postponement of the report in my previous post. UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Magda Hassan - 06-10-2009 If true, which I suspect, it is shameful behaviour on the part of Abu Mazen and co. Dead men walking. Israel's behaviour doesn't surprise me in the least. Just par for the course. UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Peter Presland - 06-10-2009 Magda Hassan Wrote:If true, which I suspect, it is shameful behaviour on the part of Abu Mazen and co. Dead men walking. Israel's behaviour doesn't surprise me in the least. Just par for the course.Magda It does have a certain ring to it doesn't it? As I recall there were accusations at the time of the PLO urging Israel on in its Gaza offensive. This is further evidence of that. And when you think about it, it would surely require something of comparable gravity for any Palestinian to seek to postpone UN adoption of that report. The official line is that they 'didn't want to jeapardise the peace process' - seriously - the bloody PEACE PROCESS. You don't have to be a Palestinian to see the absolute farce of that. There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that Israel has something MAJOR on the PLO - and this fits the bill to a tee. UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Keith Millea - 06-10-2009 Quote:According to the report, Dov Weissglas told Abed Al-Rahim that such a move could result in the deaths of thousands of civilians. “They all voted for Hamas,” says Abed Al-Rahim, “they chose their fate, not us.” Someone is going to get a spanking!!!!!!!! ecruity: UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - David Guyatt - 07-10-2009 Keith Millea Wrote:Someone is going to get a spanking!!!!!!!! For a second I thought I'd hit the wrong link and entered an S & M website. But all is well that ends in a spanked botty, I suppose. UK court rejects Palestinian call to arrest Barak - Keith Millea - 07-10-2009 David Guyatt Wrote:Keith Millea Wrote:Someone is going to get a spanking!!!!!!!! Oh crap,I thought I was posting to my "special friend".I've been outed!!!!! :wavey: |