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Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Randy Gunter - 12-08-2010
Less than ONE WHOLE MONTH before his death Jack Ruby was "FIT AS A FIDDLE" and no doctor had detected ANY FLAW in his health!!!
Mercury Thallium is HIGHLY TOXIC and Deadly to Humans, to be injected with it would bring about a sure and swift death!
I have 30 years of experience in Explosives and performing as a Bomb Technician.
Mercury Thallium is found in AIM-9 Sidewinder Missiles (ever watched Top Gun?). We have CRITICAL safety precautions when disarming these missiles, one of those precautions is to "AVOID CONTACT WITH THE MERCURY THALLIUM AT ALL COSTS".
Unfortunately, Ruby's Ass Cheeks weren't so lucky.
Randy
"And so Jack Ruby, on December 9, 1966, - exactly one day after he had learned that his new trial was going to be held in February or March 1967 at Wichita Falls, about 140 miles from Dallas - was stricken with a mysterious disease first diagnosed as a common cold, then as pneumonia and finally as generalized cancer.
For more than three years, with a death sentence hanging over his dead for most of the time, Ruby had been as fit as a fiddle in the custody of Dallas Sheriff Bill Decker. At no time before December 9, had the prison doctor who visited him regularly, detected any flaw in Ruby's splendid health. But now, with a new trial in prospect in a different place, death quickly overtook the man who knew perhaps more than any other living person (with the possible exception of David Ferrie, then still totally unknown to the public at large) about the real background to the assassination. He passed away in the morning of January 3, 1967 - and another inconvenient trial was happily averted."
http://www.spartacus....uk/JFKruby.htm
And a description of thallium poisoning:
"On New Year’s Day in 1988, Abdullah Ali, an Iraqi businessman who had been living in London for eight years, joined three compatriots for dinner at a restaurant called Cleopatra in Notting Hill. The next morning, he was taken ill with flu-like symptoms and was admitted to hospital. There his condition rapidly deteriorated — his hair fell out, he developed excruciating skin and joint pain, and paralysis and respiratory failure began to set in. Fifteen days later he was dead.
...
Early symptoms are similar to flu and gastroenteritis. This is followed by extreme band-like pain around the body, particularly in the feet and joints. The cause of death is usually heart or respiratory failure, as the nervous system collapses. It is an attractive tool for murder because it is soluble in water, colourless and virtually tasteless and odourless. A fatal dose can also be given in one go and the body is not good at excreting the toxin by itself."
http://www.timesonli...2461655,00.html
Certainly seems possible. The cold/flu like symptoms Ruby supposedly suffered (if we can depend on accounts of his symptoms) are described in the thallium poisonings, but wouldn't seem to jibe with cancer. Ruby's death, after about three weeks, seems awfully fast for cancer but about right for thallium.
Good chart here for time range and symptoms:
http://www.portfolio.mvm.ed.ac.uk/studentw...p29/thaltox.htm
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Peter Lemkin - 12-08-2010
My training is in Environmental Toxicology and I have lots of reference books on that. While no one book I have has the amalgam of mercury and tallium, each is well known as toxic separately. Here is an entry for tallium....
7.3 Humans
Thallium compounds are extremely toxic. Acute poisoning
is characterized by gastroenteritis, with nausea,
vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain within hours
of absorption. Involvement of the nervous system then
becomes apparent after a few days, with paresthesia,
exquisitely painful and tender extremities, weakness,
mental confusion or delirium, convulsions, with respiratory
and circulatory involvement followed by death.
When the period of survival extends beyond 1 week
or so, a varied neurological picture may develop with
headache, ataxia, tremor, paresthesias, and muscular
atrophy predominating. There may also be cranial nerve
involvement, with ptosis, ophthalmoplegia, retrobulbar
neuritis, or facial paralysis later on in the intoxication.
Tachycardia and hypertension seen in the more severely
affected cases are thought to be due to denervation of
the glossopharyngeal and vagus nerves. The autonomic
neuropathy is a key component of thallium toxicity.
The neurological picture in the subacute case is
characteristically a distal neuropathy that begins with
sensory loss and numbness in the fi ngers and toes that
later spreads proximally. A little while later, there develops
a motor weakness, distal at fi rst, that again spreads
proximally. This neurological pattern of changes may
spread further to involve cranial nerves, respiratory
muscles, and even eye muscle innervation. This steady
proximal spread is reminiscent of Landry’s ascending
paralysis, a condition now not often recognized.
After an interval of 1–3 weeks, alopecia develops,
and the head hair can be readily pulled away; pubic and
axillary hair, and also the medial third hairs of the eyebrows
that do not actively grow, are relatively spared.
Ridges (Mees’s stripes) appear on the fi ngernails.
Recovery may be complete, or neurological defects
may remain for long periods with mental abnormality,
ataxia, and tremor (Bank et al., 1972; Cavanagh et al.,
1974; 1984, personal communication; Clinical Conferences
at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, 1978; Grunfeld
and Hinostroza, 1964; Mathews and Anzarut, 1968;
Reed et al., 1963; Smith and Doherty, 1964).
Three cases, two of which were fatal, were described
in detail by Cavanagh et al. (1974). The more severely
poisoned of these was diagnosed as a case of Guillain-
Barré polyneuritis, and at postmortem, there was little
evidence of neuronal degeneration; but the second
fatal case, who was less acutely poisoned, showed
extensive distal degeneration of all nerves examined,
with chromatolysis of many nerve cells. Neuronal
degeneration was of the distal, dying-back type and
was still actively continuing 3 weeks after the onset
of paresthesia. The more acutely affected of these two
fatal cases was estimated to have ingested 0.93 g Tl as
the acetate in two divided doses, whereas the fatal case
in which symptoms developed less rapidly had taken
the same total amount but in three divided doses.
A survivor had ingested 0.31 g Tl in a single dose. In the
latter, who experienced severe loss of head and beard hair, thallium could not be detected in the serum 7
weeks after exposure but was present in the urine in a
concentration of 3.0 mg/L.
The neuropathy produced by thallium was studied
by Kennedy and Cavanagh (1976) in a further case:
a 32-year-old man who died 1 month after ingesting
thallium sulfate at a calculated dose rate of 33 mg/
kg. The presenting features consisted of distal numbness,
paresthesias, and pains in the limbs followed by
convulsions. The principal clinical fi ndings consisted
of tachycardia, hypertension, peripheral neuropathy,
and cranial nerve involvement. The diagnosis was not
made until the 21st day, when alopecia developed.
Cerebral edema and petechial hemorrhages were the
only abnormalities seen in the cerebral hemispheres,
perhaps related to assisted respiration measures. There
were striking degenerative changes in the dorsal columns
of the spinal cord affecting both major tracts.
Chromatolysis of spinal anterior horn cells was associated
with severe Wallerian degeneration of both motor
and sensory peripheral nerve fi bers.
A symmetrical, mixed peripheral neuropathy is
characteristic, with distal nerves more strongly affected
than proximal nerves (Cavanagh, 1988); another characteristic
feature is an extreme sensitivity of the legs,
followed by the “burning feet” syndrome and paresthesia.
The so-called therapeutic dose for ringworm of the
scalp, recommended to produce hair loss in 2–3 weeks,
was 8 mg Tl/kg. However, Munch (1934) reviewed six
deaths among children given this dose, and found, in
8006 children treated with thallium, 447 cases of poisoning
(5.5%). Altogether he collected reports on 778
cases of thallium poisoning, with a mortality of 6%. The
minimal lethal dose for soluble thallium salts for an
adult is in the order of 1 g Tl (Gettler and Weiss, 1943)
or 10–15 mg/kg. Doses in the order of 1 g Tl are likely
to be fatal within a few days. Doses ranging between
0.5 g and 1 g are likely to give rise to a progressive neurological
defi cit ending in death in 2–3 weeks, whereas
smaller doses will show progression to alopecia and
are more likely to be followed by recovery. There is no
therapeutic dose for thallium salts.
Thallium poisoning has occurred after the unintentional
contamination of food. In one outbreak, barley
containing 1% thallium sulfate for pest control gave rise
to 27 cases of poisoning with 7 deaths (Munch et al.,
1933). Thallium salts have been used for suicide; their
criminal use has been reviewed by Prick et al. (1955).
Industrial thallium poisoning has occurred after
absorption by inhalation of dust or fume, through
ingestion from contaminated hands or food, or as a
result of skin contact. Munch (1934) recorded 12 cases
of industrial poisoning up to 1934. The principal clinical
features in these cases were fatigue, anorexia, pains
in the legs, and loss of hair. There were no deaths, but
one worker lost his sight as a result of optic atrophy. A
worker who, wearing protective clothing, had handled
approximately 6 kg thallium per day for many years,
developed ascending polyneuropathy, visual disturbance,
and fi nally hair loss (Egen, 1955).
No information on exposure levels is available.
Glömme and Sjöström (1955) described four cases in
which absorption was thought to follow skin contact
in the manufacture of rodenticides. Minor degrees of
polyneuropathy and varying degrees of alopecia were
noted, with a maximal urinary thallium excretion of
380 μg/L. Other reports with less specifi c effects after
industrial exposure to thallium are diffi cult to evaluate.
Occupational thallium poisoning has usually followed
long-term, lower level exposure producing a cumulative
effect with a milder clinical course than that
described for acute poisoning, characterized mainly by
subjective symptoms, in some cases with polyneuropathy
and partial alopecia. More data on environmental
and biological levels of thallium are required in such
cases.
As described in Section 6 of this chapter, human
exposures with urinary Tl concentrations <5 μg/L are
unlikely to cause adverse effects. In the range of
5–500 μg/L, risks are uncertain, whereas exposures
with urinary Tl >500 μg/L have been connected with
clinical poisoning.
Mercury, mostly has neural and renal effects on the human. I'd have to do specialized research on the combination's toxic effects. Do you know what its purpose is in the weapons? I see the amalgam is used in special electrical circuits. It is likely a soft solid or liquid at low temperatures, but can be dissolved in some special substances...I'd have to look this all up. Did Ruby loose his hair before he died?! That is one of the most definitive signs of tallium poisoning. Neither are listed as causing cancer quickly. Both could long term. However, the diagnosis of 'cancer' in Ruby is not confirmed and there are other substances known to be used for nefarious purposes which do rapidly induce cancer....
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Peter Lemkin - 12-08-2010
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Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Randy Gunter - 16-08-2010
Peter,
They are used as superconductive electrical switches in the missiles.
Highly toxic especially when introduced to fire.
Randy
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Peter Lemkin - 16-08-2010
not to divert the thread, but that brings up the fact that the already destructive rockets are even more lethal longterm and environmentally, given that they contain such toxic materials! Have you any idea of the quantity per rocket, approximately? Even a small amount could poison a large area for many decades or longer! Insane! I'm of the belief that Ruby was 'done in' so he'd not get his chance at his new trial and perhaps say something they didn't want said......what exactly was given to him to make him die is not known. If it were metals, that could be determined by an exhumation and tests.......
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Phil Dragoo - 16-08-2010
December 7, 1966, Ruby's trial was ordered moved from Dallas to Witchita Falls.
December 9, Ruby was moved form Dallas County Jail to Parkland Hospital, complaining of persistent coughing and nausea.
He was dead January 3, 1967.
Ruby wanted to spare Jackie a trial; someone returned the favor.
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Peter Lemkin - 16-08-2010
Phil Dragoo Wrote:December 7, 1966, Ruby's trial was ordered moved from Dallas to Witchita Falls.
December 9, Ruby was moved form Dallas County Jail to Parkland Hospital, complaining of persistent coughing and nausea.
He was dead January 3, 1967.
Ruby wanted to spare Jackie a trial; someone returned the favor.
Great line Phil!!!!...and how true!!!!...if Ruby's sentiment was a false cover!
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Dawn Meredith - 17-08-2010
Just read Dr Mary's Monkey- Ed Haslam. A real page turner and could well be implicated in Ruby's swift demise.
Dawn
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Robert Morrow - 23-08-2010
Dr. Louis Joyon "Jolly" West - Jack Ruby's doctor
"He will probably go down in history as the only person to kill an elephant at Oklahoma City Zoo with LSD"
When the government starts giving you an MK-UTLTRA "doctor" you are up shit creek without a paddle. Bad things are SURE to happen!
http://www.whale.to/b/west_q.html
Dr. Louis Joyon "Jolly" West
Mind control programmers
See: False Memory Syndrome William SargantMind control programmers
The establishment allowed CIA programmer Dr. Louis Joyon "Jolly" West to examine Jack Ruby in his jail cell. When Ruby refused to admit to insanity, West labelled him "paranoid and mentally ill" and Ruby was placed on pills, which were called "happy pills". Ruby believed he was being poisoned by the establishment.12: SCIENCE No. 12-EXTERNAL CONTROLS Deeper Insights into the Illuminati Formula
While Dr. West’s curriculum vitae doesn’t mention that he received Top Secret clearance from the CIA as the contractor on MKULTRA Subproject 43, CIA documents show that grants were given to Dr. West for studies entitled, "Psychophysiological Studies of Hypnosis and Suggestibility" and "Studies of Dissociative States." Further, "Dr. Lois Jolyon West was cleared at Top Secret for his work on MKULTRA.
West's numerous connections to the mind control network illustrate how the network is maintained---not through any central conspiracy, but by an interlocking network of academic relationships, grants, conferences, and military appointments. Some doctors in the network were not funded directly by the CIA or military, but their work was of direct relevance to mind control, non-lethal weapons development, creation of controlled dissociation and the building of Manchurian Candidates." Further, "Dr. West devoted four decades to study, writing and experimentation on dissociation, hypnosis, Communist mind control, hallucinogens, sensory deprivation, and methods of social influence; he concluded that the methods used by destructive cults result in the creation of new identities and dissociative states. The same methods, when applied to experimental subjects under BLUEBIRD, ARTICHOKE and MKULTRA, also resulted in the creation of amnesia, new identities and dissociated states. This was the Manchurian Candidate program."(Ross, 2000) Neurofeedback and Other Interventions for Patients with Ritual Abuse, Mind Control, and Dissociative Disorders by Susan Ford
So Louis West, who wanted to start this centre at UCLA, is on the board of FMSF and so is Martin Orne, a Harvard psychiatrist who has done contract work for the CIA in the past. And several other people who have those kinds of connections. They want to debunk this stuff right out of the box ... forget it. This is the kind of stuff they want to debunk. The CIA, Mind Control & Children: A Talk by John Rappoport[B] [/B]He was the British end of the most sinister program ever approved by the United States government: MK ULTRA, an intelligence agency effort designed to control all human behavior. .....He continued to use the massive doses of electroshock and drugs as part of his behavioral modification regime. He was, in 1970, also working closely with Louis Jolyon “Jolly” West, chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of California in Los Angeles and director of its Neuropsychiatric Institute. .....Using his highly placed connections to the American drug industry, Sargant’s arsenal of mind-altering drugs was unequalled in Britain. He was the first to treat—depending on the definition of “treatment"—patients with Thorazine, Stelazine and Mellaril; anti-depressants like Elavil and Tofranil; anti-manics like lithium carbonate. He gave them in combinations......Sargant worked closely with Eli Lilly and Company, Hoffman-La Roche and Geigy. Other drug houses who regarded him with favor were Merck, Sharp and Dohme, Parke-Davis and Company, Smith Kline & French Laboratories, and Searle Laboratories.
.......At military bases in Britain, including one at Maresfield, near the south coast resort of Brighton, he conducted drug-related experiments on so-called “military volunteers.” Other drug experiments were performed at Britain’s most secret chemical and biological warfare establishment at Porton Down on Salisbury Plain. Again “volunteers” from military mental hospitals and from military prisons were used.
American intelligence sent observers to monitor these tests. Among them was one of the CIA’s senior biochemists, Frank Olson, and Sidney Gottlieb, the overall head of the MK ULTRA program.
The three men became close friends. On each trip they visited Sargant’s department at St. Thomas’s to study patient records. They also shared with Sargant the latest mind-altering research being carried out at Fort Detrick, Maryland.
Ultimately, as we shall see, these connections led to the 1953 murder of Frank Olson on the orders of Sidney Gottlieb.
..........Once he agreed to work for Britain’s intelligence services, money was no longer a problem and through U.S. drug companies he met like-minded psychiatrists.
..........Sargant died on August 27, 1988. With his death I was freed of my undertaking and slowly began to explore his background. It was not easy; he still had powerful friends in the World Psychiatric Association he had helped to establish, and the Royal College of Psychiatrists.
.........Injected with Largactil (Thorazine) and Seconal to keep her in a drugged sleep, Anne was placed in the Sleep Room. There she received doses of other drugs, Amitriptyline and Nardil.
.........There was another link between Sargant and Cameron: Leonard Rubenstein. He worked for MI5. At the Allan Memorial Institute he ran the “research and behavioral laboratory.” There he created the tape loops. He had flown to London to show Sargant how they should be fashioned.
......I traced Rubenstein to his home in Hammersmith, London. I wanted him to explain how he, with no medical qualifications, had been allowed to work on seriously ill patients. When I started to question him, he hung up the phone. When I called back I was informed the line was no longer in service. I then discovered Rubenstein still has links to MI5. Inside the Sleep Room by Gordon Thomas
Shortly after he had entered University of Wisconsin, he enlisted in the U.S. Army. In the Army Specialized Training Program he studied at the University of Iowa and the University of Minnesota School of Medicine from which he graduated in 1948. During his internship at the Payne Whitney Psychiatric Clinic he became familiar with Scientology, a cult he soon considered dangerous. Transferred to the U.S. Air Force Medical Corps and five years later he was appointed Chief of Psychiatry Service at the Lackland Air Force Base, San Antonio, Texas. In this position he studied U.S. pilots and veterans after they had experienced torture and brainwashing. Chairman of the Department of Psychiatry at the University of California in Los Angeles and director of its Neuropsychiatric Institute.
Alleged persons he treated: Charles Manson, Sirhan-Sirhan, and later David Koresh. January 7, 1999, Reuters: "After examining [Jack] Ruby, the killer of President John F. Kennedy's assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald, West concluded Ruby was suffering from 'major mental illness precipitated by the stress of (his) trial.''' Member of the White House Conference on Civil Rights in 1966. For many years he fought for the abolishment of the death penalty. Member of the Scientific Advisory Board of the FMS Foundation (as reported in the FMS Foundation Newsletter, Vol 4, No. 8, September 1, 1995). Dr. Colin Ross, who received many FOIA documents pertaining to US government mind control research: "Started off as a Top Secret official for the Air Force who interviewed the American pilots who came back from Korea having been captured and brainwashed by the Communist Chinese. Joly West and Margaret Singer worked for Air Force Intelligence talking to those downed American pilots who were actually DDNOS level Manchurian Candidates. Director the Cult Awareness Network... funded under MKULTRA to study the psychobiology of dissociation. He will probably go down in history as the only person to kill an elephant at Oklahoma City Zoo with LSD... Joly West was the expert witness in the trial for Patty Hearst. Who were the expert witnesses called to explain to the jury that Patty Hearst was actually a victim of coercive persuasion, mind control and brainwashing ... Joly West, Margaret Singer, Robert Lifton and Martin Orne. So what did Joly West have to do with Vacaville? Joly West was Head of the UCLA Violence Project which was approved by Ronald Reagan when he was Governor of California, then shut down by public protest. It was spearheaded by a number of people including some people who were very interested in the history of CIA military mind control, and have written books about it. Well the UCLA Violence Project you are going to see in subsequent slides... [Joly was a] CIA and military contractor, and an expert on multiple personality and other things... he actually mentions multiple personality in his CIA proposal. He tried to set up this UCLA violence centre that was going to be funded by Ronald Reagan and Frank Irvine from the Harvard brain electrode implant team was going to come. One of the things that was going to be done at the UCLA violence project and also at Vaccaville State Prison under a separate administrative structure, but which got shut down by public protest, was that they were going to implant brain electrodes in violent sex offenders..." http://www.isgp.eu/dutroux/FMSF_freaks.htm
Ruby Injected with Mercury Thallium - Dawn Meredith - 02-10-2010
Phil Dragoo Wrote:December 7, 1966, Ruby's trial was ordered moved from Dallas to Witchita Falls.
December 9, Ruby was moved form Dallas County Jail to Parkland Hospital, complaining of persistent coughing and nausea.
He was dead January 3, 1967.
Ruby wanted to spare Jackie a trial; someone returned the favor.
They could ill afford to allow Ruby to have a new trial. He had already said enough.
That he told Earl warren and Gerry Ford that "a whole new form of government" was about to occur following JFK's assassination must have shaken the conspirators to the bone. Imagine what he could have said in trial. Whatever he knew Dorthy Kilgallen would lose her life over as well.
God, will there EVER be justice?
Dawn