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Pentagon 'Aircraft's' Flight Deck Door NEVER OPEN!!! NEW & NEWS!!!! - Peter Lemkin - 19-08-2010
9/11: PENTAGON AIRCRAFT HIJACK IMPOSSIBLE
FLIGHT DECK DOOR CLOSED FOR ENTIRE FLIGHT [according to NTSB Data - i.e. FDR data does NOT support even the possibility of a hijacking - as no one entered or left the flight deck!!!!!!!] :top: :rofl:
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=18405
(PilotsFor911Truth.org) - Newly decoded data provided by an independent researcher and computer programmer from Australia exposes alarming evidence that the reported hijacking aboard American Airlines Flight 77 was impossible to have existed. A data parameter labeled "FLT DECK DOOR", cross checks with previously decoded data obtained by Pilots For 9/11 Truth from the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) through the Freedom Of Information Act.
On the morning of September 11, 2001, American Airlines Flight 77 departed Dulles International Airport bound for Los Angeles at 8:20 am Eastern Time. According to reports and data, a hijacking took place between 08:50:54 and 08:54:11[1] in which the hijackers allegedly crashed the aircraft into the Pentagon at 09:37:45. Reported by CNN, according to Ted Olson, wife Barbara Olson had called him from the reported flight stating, "...all passengers and flight personnel, including the pilots, were herded to the back of the plane by armed hijackers..."[2]. However, according to Flight Data provided by the NTSB, the Flight Deck Door was never opened in flight. How were the hijackers able to gain access to the cockpit, remove the pilots, and navigate the aircraft to the Pentagon if the Flight Deck Door remained closed?[3]
Founded in August 2006, Pilots For 9/11 Truth is a growing organization of aviation professionals from around the globe. The organization has analyzed Data provided by the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) for the Pentagon Attack, the events in Shanksville, PA and the World Trade Center attack. The data does not support the government story. The NTSB/FBI refuse to comment. Pilots For 9/11 Truth do not offer theory or point blame at this point in time. However, there is a growing mountain of conflicting information and data in which government agencies and officials along with Mainstream Media refuse to acknowledge. Pilots For 9/11 Truth Core member list continues to grow.
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html for full member list.
[1] Hijacker Timeline - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=17
[2] Common Strategy Prior to 9/11/2001 - http://pilotsfor911truth.org/pentagon.html
[3] Right click and save target as here to download csv file with "FLT DECK DOOR" parameter. :dontknow: :o [Data down-loadable here from annoying site] Follow the discussion on their forum [top url above] in order to understand how to interpret and extract data. Looks bad for Uncle Sammy! :call: :rofl: The only argument one could make [lamely] is that the FDR measured the door ever 4 seconds in flight and that the hijackers could enter and close the door in 4 seconds, as well as move the flight crew to the back by opening and closing the door within 4 seconds - further as they'd not know which was the next four second interval, they actually (statistically) have each time a two second window and with multiple openings and closing it becomes a statistical and actual IMPOSSIBILITY...according to the 'official' data!....put that in your pipe and smoke it....inhale deeply......:tee:
Pentagon 'Aircraft's' Flight Deck Door NEVER OPEN!!! NEW & NEWS!!!! - Sam Kent - 19-08-2010
When I read this it rang a bell. So I did a quick web check. This isn't really NEW news, it's been out since November.
I think it was brought up on a tv show but I don't remember for sure. But I did find a couple of things that are interesting.
http://www.ntsb.gov/events/journalist/Article_from_JRN0601.pdf
It's a document from 2006 concerning the CDR where the cockpit door switch isn't even mentioned as being required.
But even more interesting is from someone claiming to be qualified in the 767-200 avionics.
http://911blogger.com/news/2009-11-27/ntsb-data-flight-deck-door-remained-closed-aa77-hijacking-impossible?page=1
Snippet 1.
Quote:[size=12]I am both qualified and worthy of an opinion on this matter? I am licensed on the 767-200 and are familiar with the systems in question, having worked on the for 20 years in avionics.[/SIZE]
He goes on to say he believes in the 911 conspiracy theory. But the biggie is at the end of his post.
Snippet 2.
Quote:
[size=12]PS - If any did not understand my point about the door lock on the cockpit door...it is possible for the door to remained (indicated) locked while being open, so this does not provide hard evidence of anything rather just one more question....that is unless it can be demonstrated that a proximity switch was in the door jam on that aircraft which provides this data or that it is impossible to force the door without the lock opening then this information is basically worthless just like the hologram theories that pilots indirectly support..
[/SIZE]That's pretty much what I remember from the tv show. The door switch reading is inconclusive.
Pentagon 'Aircraft's' Flight Deck Door NEVER OPEN!!! NEW & NEWS!!!! - Carsten Wiethoff - 20-08-2010
Yes, the information about the state of the FLT DECK DOOR sensor of American Airlines 77 is out since November 2009.
Regarding the significance of this information I am sitting on the fence because for me it has not been conclusively demonstrated that this specific sensor was fitted on that specific 757, and there is some evidence that the sensor was fitted only on later 757 models.
But still this is an interesting fact that should be conclusively investigated, and people like the researcher that decoded these data (www.warrenstutt.com) have my highest respect and support.
Data that are definitely valid, but have been suppressed by the NTSB, like Radar Altimeter, would have never seen the light of day without the efforts of private individuals.