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Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Carsten Wiethoff - 01-09-2010 See http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/7973346/Top-Russian-spys-body-washes-up-after-swimming-accident.html and http://www.haaretz.com/news/international/russian-general-goes-missing-in-syria-turns-up-dead-in-turkey-1.311464 Yuri Ivanov, 52, was found washed ashore in the Hatay province in southern Turkey after he had gone missing in Syria. According to Russian media he "died while swimming".:hmmmm2: Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 01-09-2010 No canoe involved? Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Carsten Wiethoff - 01-09-2010 No, and he was also not packed in a sporting bag.:burnout: Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Jan Klimkowski - 01-09-2010 From The Godfather: Quote:[Tessio brings in Luca Brasi's bulletproof vest, delivered with a fish inside] Yuri Ivanov more accurately was gnawed by the fishes. I have no idea of the symbolic meaning of such a cadaver.... :captain: Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Peter Lemkin - 03-09-2010 Clearly it’s “Russian spies in the news” week. After revelations that a British MP’s Russian aide may be (but almost certainly isn’t) a Russian spy, we now hear that one of Russia’s top spies was found dead a couple of weeks ago, washed up on a Turkish beach. Major-General Yuri Ivanov was Deputy Head of the GRU (Russian military intelligence), and had been visiting Syria, to inspect the construction of the Tartus Russian Naval base – the only Russian military base outside of the Former Soviet Union. From there, it’s not clear what happened to him; the next sighting was when he washed up on a beach in the province of Hatay in Turkey on 16 August. His death was tersely announced in the Red Star Newspaper this week, and Kremlin officials have announced simply that he died in a tragic swimming accident while on holiday. But, as always when an intelligence officer dies, people are questioning whether his death was really an accident, or whether he was murdered. Russian news sites like Svobodnaya Pressa have noted that high ranking Generals and intelligence officers are usually accompanied by bodyguards – which raises the question of where they were at the time, and where they might be now. Svobodnaya Pressa also went on to point out that the Kremlin generally (and probably quite sensibly) doesn’t usually announce when its spies have been murdered – when another senior spy was murdered in 1992, it took an investigation by fellow officers to prove that he had, indeed, been murdered. Speculation about who had the motive to kill Ivanov seems so far to be focusing on Israel’s Mossad agency, because Israel is known to be concerned about the development of a technologically advanced Russian listening base in the area that will be able to spy on its communications and military movements. But I have to ask – how does killing one General help Israel’s ambitions in this area? Something so small (in the grand scheme of things) as one Generals’ murder certainly wouldn’t warn off the Russian state, who are investing heavily in the base. Other speculation notes that Ivanov was the head of the GRU’s operations in Chechnya,. He was thought to have ordered the assassination of Chechen seperatists outside of Russia, including two men in Qatar in 2004. Revenge could be a plausible motive but, again, questions need to be asked – most importantly, do demoralised and disorganised Chechen separatists have the resources and ability (let alone the urgent desire) to carry out an assassination like this? No-one has yet looked into Ivanov’s business dealings, and whether he was tainted at all by corruption. His position, combined with the construction of a massive military base, would have offered many opportunities for graft – he could well have upset someone, either by taking a bribe, or perhaps even refusing to take one. http://siberianlight.net/ Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Carsten Wiethoff - 03-09-2010 Strangely, according to Turkish media (http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php?n=russian-diplomats-body-found-in-hatay-shores-2010-08-13) Ivanov was found around August 8 and identified at or before August 13. Quote:Russian diplomat's body found on Hatay shore Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Carsten Wiethoff - 03-09-2010 Debka has a different timing account than all the others: http://www.debka.com/article/8999/ Quote:Mysterious death of Russian military intelligence high-up in Syria Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 28-06-2013 Thought I would see what has been happening with this death. There has been very little in the news either Russian or English. Interestingly this Russian weapons expert died in a close time frame while on holiday in Malta. Maybe just a co-incidence and an accident. Quote:Sunday, June 20, 2010 by Claudia Callejahttp://www.timesofmalta.com/articles/view/20100620/local/russian-weapons-expert-death-probably-accidental.313559 Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 28-06-2013 From the Caucus Islamist beloved by Washington. Quote:Mossad claims GRU General killed by CE Mujahideen, Palestinians and GRU say Mossad did ithttp://kavkazcenter.com/eng/content/2010/08/31/12454.shtml Deputy of Russian GRU dies in Syria, washes up in Turkey - Magda Hassan - 28-06-2013 Israel special forces conducting cross-border operations in SyriaDECEMBER 10, 2012 BY JOSEPH FITSANAKISBy JOSEPH FITSANAKIS | intelNews.org | Teams of Israeli special forces are currently operating inside Syria in an effort to detect and sabotage the Syrian military's chemical and biological arsenal. Citing an unnamed "Israeli source", the London-based Sunday Times newspaper said yesterday that the operation is part of a wider "secret war" to track Damascus' non-conventional weapons stockpiles and "sabotage their development". The Israeli government refused comment on the paper's allegation. However, Israel's covert activities against the Syrian government's chemical and biological arsenal go back almost 30 years. Reputedly, some of the more recent such activities may have involved the targeting of Russian scientists. Although Russia routinely denies it, it is believed that Syria's non-conventional arsenal was significantly augmented in the late 1980s and early 1990s with the help of Russian retired general Anatoliy Kuntsevich. Kuntsevich, one of the Soviet Red Army's top scientists, is said to have helped Damascus build its XV nerve agent stockpiles, which are still believed to be in existence today. Interestingly, Kuntsevich died suddenly in 2003 onboard a flight from the Syrian capital to Moscow. It was widely speculated at the time that the Mossad, Israel's covert-action agency, may have played a role in the Russian general's sudden death. In 2010, another retired Russian general, Yuri Ivanov, who had served as Deputy Director of the GRU, Russia's military intelligence agency, died in unclear circumstances. The body of 52-year-old Ivanov was found in Turkey on August 16, 2010, several days after he had disappeared close to a Russian naval facility in Syria. Russian media did not report Ivanov's death until several days later, when he was quietly buried in Moscow. According to reports in the Israeli press, the former GRU official was on his way to a meeting with Syrian intelligence officers when he went missing. Israel has never acknowledged having played a part in Ivanon's death, but many suspect that Tel Aviv had been targeting the two Russians for quite some time. The Sunday Timesarticle quoted an "Israeli source" who said that intelligence gathered through Israeli-operated satellites and unmanned drones flying over Syria indicates that chemical and biological stockpiles were recently moved to new locations around the country. Earlier this month, intelNews reported on allegations in The Atlantic magazine that Israel had sent Jordan at least two requests in the past two months to bomb targets in Syria in order "to take out many of Syria's chemical weapons sites". According to the report, Amman rejected the requests, saying that "the time was not right" for direct military action against the regime in Damascus. http://intelnews.org/2012/12/10/01-1150/#more-9707 |