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Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Magda Hassan - 08-12-2010
https://xipwire.com/give/wl
And they're charging NO FEES for their service. Any one who formerly had a Pay Pal account should be supporting these guys for all their internet transaction. So refreshing to see a business with good principles
Quote: While people may or may not agree with WikiLeaks, we at XIPWIRE believe that anyone who wishes to support the organization through a donation should be able to do so.
We are waiving all fees so that 100% of the donations collected will be directly passed on to WikiLeaks.
WikiLeaks is a non-profit media organization dedicated to bringing important news and information to the public. We provide an innovative, secure and anonymous way for independent sources around the world to leak information to our journalists. We publish material of ethical, political and historical significance while keeping the identity of our sources anonymous, thus providing a universal way for the revealing of suppressed and censored injustices.
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Peter Lemkin - 08-12-2010
Interesting, it is done via an account, set up on internet; after that contributions to anyone via one's mobile. I wonder if my very old mobile would handle this.....it seems somewhat dedicated for the iphone, but operational on most any.
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - David Guyatt - 08-12-2010
Mastercard have been brought down by hackers, BBC reports.
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Peter Lemkin - 08-12-2010
David Guyatt Wrote:Mastercard have been brought down by hackers, BBC reports.
I hope they stay down for a LONG TIME!....what goes around, comes around!!!!!!:elefant::aetsch: This is turning into a very interesting WAR. I really think the US will be rather surprised should they extradite Assange......how many government and large corporate websites and computer infrastructure simply stop working or are denied to those who use them....... :tee: The 'playing field' is now being leveled!
Yup...confirmed! It looks like the group that successfully took down the website of Julian Assange's Swiss Bank have claimed another victim. Mastercard.com is down, and Anon_operation just tweeted that it's due to a DDOS attack. Of course, Mastercard is one of the payment services that cut off the ability to donate to Wikileaks:
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - David Guyatt - 08-12-2010
Magda Hassan Wrote:https://xipwire.com/give/wl
And they're charging NO FEES for their service. Any one who formerly had a Pay Pal account should be supporting these guys for all their internet transaction. So refreshing to see a business with good principles
Quote: While people may or may not agree with WikiLeaks, we at XIPWIRE believe that anyone who wishes to support the organization through a donation should be able to do so.
We are waiving all fees so that 100% of the donations collected will be directly passed on to WikiLeaks.
WikiLeaks is a non-profit media organization dedicated to bringing important news and information to the public. We provide an innovative, secure and anonymous way for independent sources around the world to leak information to our journalists. We publish material of ethical, political and historical significance while keeping the identity of our sources anonymous, thus providing a universal way for the revealing of suppressed and censored injustices.
An alternative to Paypal has become a necessity - and Paypal has gifted an alternative outfit a lot of new business straight off the bat.
I would like to also see alternative 'free speech" cards being made available too.
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Magda Hassan - 08-12-2010
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Free speech = PricelessDavid Guyatt Wrote:Mastercard have been brought down by hackers, BBC reports.
I hope they stay down for a LONG TIME!....what goes around, comes around!!!!!!:elefant::aetsch: This is turning into a very interesting WAR. I really think the US will be rather surprised should they extradite Assange......how many government and large corporate websites and computer infrastructure simply stop working or are denied to those who use them....... :tee: The 'playing field' is now being leveled!
Yup...confirmed! It looks like the group that successfully took down the website of Julian Assange's Swiss Bank have claimed another victim. Mastercard.com is down, and Anon_operation just tweeted that it's due to a DDOS attack. Of course, Mastercard is one of the payment services that cut off the ability to donate to Wikileaks:
for everything else there's alternatives to Mastercard.
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Magda Hassan - 08-12-2010
Just had to share about this one particular Wikileaks mirror site. It is provided courtesy of the government of Bolivia
. :pcguru:http://wikileaks.vicepresidencia.gob.bo/
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Peter Lemkin - 08-12-2010
Take a peek at PayPal's own Forum.....overwhelming condemnation of their action vis-a-vis Wikileaks! :ridinghorse:
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Magda Hassan - 08-12-2010
Wow. That is good to read there Peter. We've got to promote this new money exchanger so they can give PayPal some pain. :damnmate:
Wikileaks Payback - Offensive and Defensive - Peter Lemkin - 08-12-2010
Worldwide petition to stop punitive actions against Wikileaks here. Hoping for at least one million signatures.
At the Le Web conference in Paris today, PayPal vice president Osama Bedier was asked why PayPal closed the WikiLeaks account. Bedier answered "State Dept told us these were illegal activities. [So, they lied when they said it was just their 'rules' being violated!!] It was straightforward." "The answer was met with boos from the mostly European audience," reports TechCrunch.
The Wau Holland Foundation has filed a legal action against PayPal for blocking its account used for WikiLeaks payments and for libel due to PayPal's alegations of "illegal activity." The Foundation's official statement can be found here.
Datacell, the company handling WikiLeaks's credit card donations, has said that it will take legal action against Visa Europe and Mastercard. The BBC reports: "IT firm Datacell said it would move immediately to try to force the two companies to resume allowing payments to the whistle-blowing website. Iceland-based Datacell had earlier said the move by Visa and Mastercard could harm its own business."
[BBC] PayPal says US advised it to stop Wikileaks payments
PayPal said its decision was "straightforward"
PayPal has said that its decision to stop users from using its service to make donations to Wikileaks was made after advice from the US government.
A senior official at the online payments firm said the State Department had told it that the activities of the website were illegal in the US.
PayPal suspended payments to Wikileaks last week, and has been followed by Visa Europe and Mastercard.
Amazon and Swiss bank PostFinance have also cut ties with Wikileaks.
PayPal's clarification came from the firm's vice-president Osama Bedier.
He said the company had carried out its actions after receiving a letter from the State Department, adding that it was a "straightforward" decision.
PayPal is owned by US online auction giant eBay.
Legal threat
On Tuesday, Mastercard said that it was suspending payments to Wikileaks "until the situation is resolved".
Datacell says Visa and Mastercard's decisions could harm its own business
This was followed by Visa Europe on Wednesday, which said it would be carrying out an investigation into the whistle-blowing website.
Visa Europe said it wanted to determine whether the nature of Wikileaks' business "contravenes Visa operating rules".
Both companies are now facing the threat of legal action from the IT company that enables Wikileaks to accept credit and debit card donations.
Swiss-based Datacell said it would move immediately to try to force Visa Europe and Mastercard to resume allowing payments to the whistle-blowing website.
Datacell added that Visa Europe and Mastercard's actions could harm its own business.
Visa Europe and Mastercard have yet to comment on the legal threat.
Datacell's chief executive Andreas Fink urged Visa to "just simply do their business where they are good at - transferring money".
Datacell added that the suspension would last for an initial seven days, but this has yet to be confirmed by Visa Europe.