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Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Magda Hassan - 30-12-2010 Great stuff there Bernice! Absolutely fascinating :thumbsup: Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Bernice Moore - 30-12-2010 thanks, and your welcome, it is btw fascinating stuff.. this below was posted by jack one time whenever, it was john's presentation in 1997 ...fyi...b:wavey: John Armstrong's "November In Dallas 1997" Presentation "Harvey & Lee" Transcribed by Jerry Robertson "In 1961, the arrest of Gordon Lonsdale provided a rare opportunity for the public to gain insight into the world of espionage. Lonsdale had emigrated from Canada to England, established a business, and began passing British defense secrets to the Russians. Lonsdale and four members of his spy ring were arrested, tried, and convicted of espionage. As they delved into Lonsdale's background, they quickly realized he was no ordinary spy. He had fake birth certificates, fake passports and dual identities. To the surprise of the British, he was not a Canadian, but a native born Russian who spoke English perfectly. His real name was Konan Molodi--born in Russia in 1922. He was sent to California at age nine where he lived with his aunt, attended school, and mastered the English language. Nine years later, he was recalled to the Soviet Union and trained in espionage. In 1954, Konan Molodi was sent to Canada where he assumed the identity of a deceased Canadian named Gordon Lonsdale. A year later he was in England posing as a British businessman, but his real purpose was spying out British defense secrets. If the KGB recruited young boys, can there be any doubt that our intelligence agencies ran similar operations? In the early 1950's an intelligence operation was underway that involved two teenage boys: Lee Oswald, from Fort Worth and a Russian-speaking boy named "Harvey Oswald", from New York. Beginning in 1952, these boys lived parallel but separate lives, often in the same city. The ultimate goal was to switch their identities and send Harvey Oswald into Russia, which is exactly what happened, 7 years later. Lee and Harvey attended different schools, worked at different companies, and lived in different cities. When the Warren Commission pieced together "Lee Harvey Oswald's" life, they found evidence of Oswald in two places at the same time. Unable to explain these conflicts, they withheld it from their report. This evidence is the key to understanding the lives of Harvey and Lee Oswald. Mrs. Jack Tippit, of Westport, Connecticut was telephoned shortly after the assassination. The caller knew the Tippits were related to Officer JD Tippit and wanted Mrs. Tippit to relay information she had to people in Dallas. The woman would not identify herself because she was afraid of being killed. She said she personally knew Oswald's father and uncle. They came from Hungary and lived at 77th St. and 2nd Avenue in New York. They were unemployed, received money from Communists, and spent all of their time on Communist activities. She gave two names--Louis Weinstock and Emile Kardos. If this information is correct, one of the two Oswalds lived in New York in his youth. This could explain Oswald's interest in Communism (from his father and uncle), which began as a teenager and continued throughout his life. It could also be the reason for Marguerite Oswald's sudden trip to New York City. In 1952, in Fort Worth, Texas, 12 year-old Lee Oswald was in the 6th grade. Classmate Richard Garrett told Life Magazine, "Lee was the tallest, most dominant member of our group". This 6th grade photo shows Oswald to be the tall well built kid described by Garrett. In August, 1952 Marguerite drove with Lee to New York. Although allegedly quite poor, she hired Louise Robertson as a housekeeper. Marguerite told Mrs. Robertson that she had brought Lee to New York to have mental tests done at the Jacobi Hospital. Marguerite was asked about this by Warren Commission attorney Rankin, but she avoided his question. During the year and a half Lee Oswald resided in New York, there are few records of his activities. His New York school records contradict New York Court records and the testimony of Lee Oswald's brother, John Pic. The Warren Commission records tell us Oswald first entered Trinity Evangelical School in the Bronx in September, 1952, many miles from his residence in Manhattan. When asked for copies of Oswald's school records, the Trinity School allegedly told the FBI they did not maintain records until 1957. This is nonsense. Who ever heard of a school that did not maintain records? If the school did not maintain records, how were the dates of his attendance at Trinity obtained? How did the FBI know he even attended Trinity? And why would 12 year-old Oswald attend junior high in the Bronx instead of Manhattan. John Pic, Lee Oswald's older half-brother, remembers Lee's school enrollment differently. Pic was certain Lee attended school two blocks from his Manhattan apartment. Lee pointed out that both whites and negroes attended the same classes together--something he had not yet experienced. Yet there is no W.C. record of Lee's attendance at any school near the Pics apartment. In the fall of 1952, Oswald attended only 24 days of school. His truancy brought him to the attention of Court Psychiatrist Dr. Milton Kurian. Dr. Kurian interviewed Oswald, read the court file, and noted Oswald's recent stay at the Youth House. Dr. Kurian was 5'7" and described Oswald as being small for his age, around 4'6". Yet Lee Oswald measured 5'4" according to his New York school health record. His height was again measured at 5'4" four months later in New York, tall for a 13 year old boy. When I informed Dr. Kurian that Oswald's height was listed as 5'4" in New York school records, Dr. Kurian stated, "Those records must be wrong-he was a little fellow, no taller than the middle of my chest--perhaps 4'6" tall." When Dr. Kurian interviewed Oswald on March 27, 1953, Oswald's file showed previous confinement at the Youth House. But Warren Commission records tell us that Oswald's first and only placement at the youth house began three weeks after Dr. Kurian saw Oswald. The Warren Commission tells us Oswald attended only 24 days of school thru May 7, 1953. Yet WC Exhibit 1384 shows him attending 109 days of school at the same time. Which WC record are we to believe? If both are accurate, these records are for two different "Oswalds". While Oswald was in the Youth House, his mother met with Probation Officer John Carro. Marguerite told Carro she was the youngest of 6 children, yet there were 5 children in the Claverie family. She gave Lee Oswald's father's name as Robert Lee Harvey, when his real name was Robert Edward Lee Oswald. She said Lee's father died at age 45, yet we know he was 41 years old when he died. She gave her marriage date as July 19, 1929, yet she married Robert Oswald in 1933. She gave her sister's name as Lillian Sigouerette, when we know her sister's name was Lillian Murrett. She said she formerly owned a house in Corning, Texas yet there is not and never has been a "Corning," Texas. She gave Lee Harvey Oswald's birth date as October 19 when the correct date was October 18th. She said Lee was baptized at the Trinity Lutheran Church in New Orleans, when the records show he was baptized at the Redeemer Lutheran Church in New Orleans. When she was asked whether Lee's father was right or left handed she replied "I do not remember, sir" (Warren Commission testimony). There is no reason for a 45 year old woman to make these kind of errors concerning her background. Had she forgotten, was she lying, or was this person truly Lee's mother? Assistant FBI Director John Malone reviewed the 1953 court file on Oswald. Malone filed this 8 page report and stated that when Oswald left the youth House on May 7, 1953, he entered PS #44 in the 9th grade. The 9th grade? Oswald entered the 7th grade the previous September and attended only 24 days of school. How could he have skipped from the 7th to the 9th grade? WC exhibits, court records, Pic's testimony and Dr. Kurian's observations of Oswald strongly suggest there were two different people--both named Oswald--in New York in the spring of 1953. This would explain John Pic's testimony when he was shown a series of photographs (from LIFE Magazine, Feb. 21, 1964) of Lee Oswald as a youth. Pic identified photographs of Oswald from age 2 thru age 12. But when Pic was shown this photograph (WC # 2893), he said "Sir, from that picture, I could not recognize that that is Lee Harvey Oswald". Jenner said, "That young fellow is shown there, he doesn't look like you recall Lee looked in 1952 and 1953 when you saw him in New York City?" John Pic replied, "No, sir.". In the summer of 1953, Lee Oswald was living in the Bronx with his mother, who was employed at Lady Orva Hosiery. At the same time "Harvey Oswald" was residing in North Dakota. After the assassination, Mrs. Alma Cole wrote this letter to President Johnson informing him that her son, William Henry Timmer, had befriended Oswald in Stanley, North Dakota in 1953. Timmer told of meeting a boy in the City Park who introduced himself as Harvey Oswald. This is the first known reference to "Harvey Oswald", the person who would eventually assume the identity of Lee Oswald. "HARVEY" spent a lot of time with Timmer during the next two months of the summer of 1953. They went swimming at the reservoir and rode their bicycles at the city park. Timmer was impressed by this kid "from the big city" who talked of gang fights in New York City and of making weapons with razor blades stuck in potatoes. "Harvey" said he had been all over the country. "Harvey" carried a pamphlet in his back pocket and on one occasion showed it to Timmer and remarked, "I'll bet you've never seen anything like this". It was a pamphlet on Marxism. Where would he get such a pamphlet? From his father and his uncle, who were, according to the woman who spoke with Mrs. Tippit, "Hungarians and spent all of their time on Communist activities". These people may have acted like Communists, but in reality they were probably agents provocateur and their mission was to uncover and identify domestic Communists. Oswald told Aline Mosby, in a 1959 interview in Moscow, that after living in New York "we moved to North Dakota". Mosby's interview appeared in newspaper articles in 1959, and is mentioned in FBI reports. When Oswald was arrested in August, 1963 in New Orleans, he was interviewed by Lt. Francis Martello. He told Martello that he had moved from New York to North Dakota. Clearly, someone named Harvey Oswald was in North Dakota in the summer of 1953. However, there are no references to Timmer or Oswald in North Dakota in the Warren Commission Volumes. In the fall of 1953 Oswald entered the 8th grade at Public School #44 in the Bronx. Marguerite Oswald again met with probation Officer, John Carro. When Carro reminded her that Lee was still under court supervision, she told Carro that he no longer needed court supervision. He was doing much better and claimed he had been elected President of his 9th grade class. There were two references to Oswald in the 9th grade: one by Marguerite and the other by Assistant FBI Director, John Malone, who obtained his information from Judge Kelley's court file. How Oswald was able to advance from the 7th to the 8th grade while attending only 24 days of school has never been explained. Also unexplained are the continual references to Oswald being in the 9th grade. It should be easy to determine which grade Lee Oswald attended during 1953. From Ft. Worth we have grammar school report cards, student lists, enrollment forms, personal photos, class photos and interviews with teacher, students and friends. Yet when we try to find similar records in New York, we find almost nothing. Not one report card, not one student list, no enrollment forms, no interviews nor even the names of his teachers, students or neighbors, and only one photograph: a photograph which his brother, John Pic, says is not Lee Oswald. The FBI took down the names of every student who shared Oswald's home room and intended to locate them. Yet not a single New York student was interviewed. WC #1413-NY & BEAUREGARD SCHOOL RECORDS-Here we have two contradictory Warren Commission exhibits. The top one, highlighted in yellow, shows "Oswald" attended Beauregard for 89 days during the fall term in 1953 in New Orleans. The bottom one shows Oswald attended 62 days of school during the fall term of 1953 in New York. If both Warren Commission documents are correct, you have two Oswalds: Lee in New York, Harvey in New Orleans--in the Fall of 1953. Lee Oswald, the 5'4" southern boy, moved to New York in 1952 and was teased by his classmates for his southern accent and for wearing blue jeans. "Harvey", who already lived in New York, was the 4'6" kid interviewed by Dr. Kurian, photographed at the Bronx Zoo, and unrecognized by John Pic. "Harvey" moved to North Dakota in the summer of 1953 and then to New Orleans where he was teased for his New York accent and attacked while sitting in the back of a bus with "negroes". Harvey enrolled in Beauregard Junior High and was assigned to Myra DaRouse's 8th grade homeroom. On his first day at school, he told Myra he wanted to be called "Harvey". Myra remembers Harvey as being 4' 6" tall, which is consistent with Dr. Kurian's observation of Oswald a few months earlier. During Myra's thirty-year teaching career, her only home room was during the 1953-54 school year and she became friends with Harvey Oswald and his friend Ed Voebel. In February, 1954, Myra drove Harvey home to Exchange Alley. At the same time Lee Oswald and his mother were renting an apartment at 1454 St. Mary's from Marguerite's best friend, Myrtle Evans. When school resumed in the fall of 1954 Myra Darouse no longer had a home room class and lost contact with Harvey. Harvey, now in the 9th grade, had moved to Fort Worth where he attended Stripling Junior High. Lee Oswald remained in New Orleans and entered the 9th grade at Beauregard. Ed Voebel told the Warren Commission he first met Lee Oswald when Oswald fought with Johnny Neumeyer. After the fight Voebel got some ice for Lee and attempted to patch him up. Voebel told the Warren Commission, Volume 8, page 3, "I think he was cut on the lip, and a tooth was knocked out ". Shortly after the fight, which occurred in November, 1954, Voebel took this LIFE Magazine photograph of Lee Oswald showing the missing front tooth. But in 1981, when Oswald's body was exhumed, autopsied, photographed and x-rayed there were no missing or chipped teeth.. The boy in the LIFE Magazine photo with the missing tooth was not the person killed by Jack Ruby and autopsied in 1991. When I showed the LIFE Magazine photo of Oswald to Myra, she said this was not Harvey Oswald. Myra was correct, the LIFE magazine photo was Lee Oswald. Ed Voebel knew Harvey Oswald in the 8th grade and Lee Oswald in the 9th grade. The HSCA was quite interested in talking to Voebel. However, Voebel died a few years earlier at age 31 at the Oshner Clinic, in New Orleans. While Lee Oswald and Ed Voebel attended 9th grade at Beauregard in the 1954-55 school year, Harvey attended W. C. Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth. Francetta Schubert was in the 8th grade in the 1954-1955 school year. Fran remembers Oswald being a grade ahead of her. Fran watched Oswald walk home during lunch periods and discussed him with her girlfriends. She said Oswald lived at 2220 Thomas Place--across the street from the school. This is the same house Marguerite Oswald lived in at the time of the assassination. In October, 1959, when Oswald defected to Russia, Robert Oswald was interviewed by the Fort Worth Star Telegram. Robert said his brother had attended Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth. In June, 1962, when Harvey Oswald returned from Russia, Robert Oswald was again interviewed by the Fort Worth Star Telegram, again stating his brother had attended Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth. Two years later Robert Oswald told the Warren Commission that his brother had attended Stripling Junior High School in Fort Worth. When Marguerite was interviewed by Mr. Pierre Berton in 1964, she also said that Lee had gone to junior high in Fort Worth. These four statements made over a 5 year period show Oswald attended Stripling Junior High. But the FBI had Oswald's New York and New Orleans junior high school records. This 1955 graduation photo from Beauregard was in their files within hours. Oswald's attendance at Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth at the same time created a big problem. Their information about Stripling probably came from FBI Agent John Fain. From 1952 thru 1963 Fain lived at 1727 Thomas Place--five blocks from the Oswalds. It was Fain's April, 1960 interview with Marguerite Oswald that prompted Hoover to notify the State Department that "an impostor may be using Oswald's birth certificate". Hoover knew about two Oswalds in 1960 and was again aware of two Oswalds in 1961 when a Lee Oswald tried to buy trucks to send to Cuba from Bolton Ford in New Orleans (Harvey Oswald was in Russia at this time). Oswald's 1954 attendance at Stripling Junior High in Fort Worth was unexplainable. So, the day after the assassination, Saturday, at 8 o'clock in the morning, the FBI went to Stripling to pick up Oswald's junior high school records. Two FBI agents were met by Mr. Frank Kudlaty, assistant principal of Stripling. Frank looked through Oswald's file and noted Oswald had attended "not quite a semester" in the 9th grade. While Marguerite worked at Washer Brothers in the fall of 1954, Harvey attended Stripling and created the 9th grade record that Mr. Kudlaty gave to the FBI. Don't bother to look for Oswald's Stripling records in the Warren Volumes, and don't waste your time filing a Freedom of Information request with the FBI. The FBI denies any knowledge of Stripling records. Oswald's 1954 Stripling records have disappeared, but the memories of Oswald's classmates have not. Doug Gann remembered Oswald in his home room. Roy Parkin used to play touch football in Oswald's front yard and saw him in the halls of Stripling. In 1955, Bobby and Jackie Pitts lived at 2224 Thomas Place, next door to Oswald. Interestingly, Paul Gregory, Oswald's friend and Marina's interpreter in 1963 also attended Stripling Junior High in 1954 and was in the same grade as Oswald. When we understand there are two teenagers using the name Oswald, we realize each of these boys had a parent or guardian. Perhaps this is the reason we see Oswald's mother identified sometimes as Marguerite and other times as Margaret. Harvey Oswald left Fort Worth and returned to New Orleans in late 1954. His first job, at age 15, was at the Dolly Shoe Company in New Orleans. The Warren Commission tells us he worked part-time while attending Beauregard. But Louis Marzialle, the store manager, remembered Oswald working during the day at full time employment. Louis and the store owner, Maury Goodman, remembered Oswald as being a very quiet and physically small child; this is Harvey. Louis observed Oswald and was unsatisfied with his work. Three days after Easter, 1955, Louis fired Oswald after he returned from lunch. While Harvey worked at Dolly Shoe, Lee attended Beauregard in the 9th grade with Ed Voebel. Marguerite was fired from Dolly Shoe by owner Maury Goodman. Marguerite continually refused to complete insurance forms necessary to obtain employee bonding. According to the Commission, Oswald's next employment was Tujague's, a freight forwarding company. However the dates of employment, as told by the Warren Commission are a complete fabrication. They tell us he worked at Tujague's for two months (without verifiable documentation), but former Tujague employees say he worked there much longer, nearly a year. Robert Oswald was discharged from the Marines in July, 1955 and visited Marguerite and Lee for a week in New Orleans before returning to Ft. Worth. When Lee joined the Civil Air Patrol on July 27, Robert helped buy him a uniform from the Army-Navy Surplus store. Robert told the Warren Commission that during his one week stay "Lee was working for an export firm there in New Orleans". Lee said, "We're sending an order to Portugal this week" or "I received an order from Hong Kong just this morning." The export firm was Tujague, Inc., and the time was July, 1955. Not November, as reported by the Warren Commission. Frank DiBenedetto, Oswald's supervisor at Tujague's, remembered him as a model employee who was very dependable and about 5'11," a little taller than himself. This was Lee Oswald, quite a bit taller than "Harvey Oswald". Frank DiBenedetto told the HSCA that Oswald had worked for Tujague's "a year to a year and a half" Gloria Callaghan, a secretary at Tujague's, remembered Oswald worked at Tujague's thru April of 1956 when she took a leave of absence to have her first child. Frank did not remember the month Oswald quit but did remember he quit to join the Marines. Lee Oswald left New Orleans in July, 1956, moved to Ft. Worth and joined the Marines in October. From Robert Oswald, Gloria Callaghan and Frank DiBenedetto, we learn Lee Oswald worked at Tujague's from July, 1955 until at least April and probably until July, 1956. (The W. C. says from Nov. 55 thru Jan. 1956) The day after the assassination, former Tujague employee Jimmy Hudnell gathered up Oswald's payroll records, time cards, and canceled checks and gave them to Mr. Tujague. Those records have disappeared. Tujague did not provide verifiable records such as canceled checks, payroll tax or social security records--only his handwritten payroll records. Tujague was Vice President of the Friends of Democratic Cuba. Guy Bannister, Jack Martin, Arcacha Smith, Bill Craig, Bill Dalzell, Grady Durham (secretary-treasurer), FBI Agent FBI Agent Regis Kennedy and FBI Agent Lansing Logan (advisor) were either members or associates. If anyone wanted to manufacture dates of employment for Oswald, the Tujague Company could provide a good cover. When Lee Oswald worked at Tujague's in the fall of 1955, Harvey attended Warren Easton High School. On October 17 1955, Harvey Oswald forged a note to the school saying "we are moving to San Diego in the middle of the month. Will you please send by him any papers such as his birth certificate". After Harvey quit high school, he worked briefly for J. R. Michels, and then left New Orleans for California. We know about his residing in California thanks to Texas Employment Commission employee Laurel Kittrell. She interviewed the two Oswalds in 1963 in Dallas. She remembered they looked remarkably similar. One Oswald told her he had been a motorcycle delivery person for a realty company in California in 1956--before joining the Marines. More of the Laurel Kittrell interview will follow. The last company Oswald allegedly worked for prior to joining the Marines was the Pfisterer Dental Labs. The Warren Commission Report states "after quitting J.R. Michels Oswald worked several months thereafter for the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory" in 1956. The day after the assassination, Airman Second Class Palmer E. McBride told the FBI that he worked with Oswald from the fall of 1957 to the summer of 1958 at the Pfisterer Dental Laboratory in New Orleans. They worked together every day and discussed recent Russian space successes. They listened to classical music at each other's homes and debated the merits of Communism, In early 1958 McBride took Oswald to a meeting of the New Orleans Amateur Astronomy Association at the home of William Wulf. Oswald became involved in a discussion about Communism which was overheard by Wulf's father. "Harvey" Oswald, who again was promoting Communism, was asked to leave. McBride took Oswald to an Astronomy meeting at Gehrke's home in early 1958. Gehrke told the FBI that none of these meetings were held in his home until 1958. Therefore, McBride and Oswald could only have attended a meeting at Gehrke's home in January of 1958 or later. McBride worked with Oswald from the fall of 1957 until July, 1958, when McBride quit to join the Air Force Reserves. Oswald left Pfisterers a month earlier. Linda Faircloth, current President of Pfisterer Dental Laboratory, tells us of Oswald's employment. The day after the assassination the FBI had taken all employment records, payroll records, quarterly tax forms, canceled checks, employment applications, W-2 forms, all documentary evidence pertaining to Oswald. Oswald's employment records at Pfisterers, like the Tujague employment records, have disappeared. The owners were told by the FBI not to discuss the case among themselves or with anyone. The FBI discontinued it's investigation of Oswald in New Orleans in 1957 and 1958 by stating the information provided by McBride "is unfounded and no further investigation is needed". In reality, McBride knew too much about Oswald to be interviewed. But Palmer McBride is very much alive and lives in Sun Valley California. McBride and other people who were close to Oswald were never interviewed by the Warren Commission nor the House Select Committee. Not a single Pfisterer employee or partner testified before the Warren Commission. Thanks to the FBI, not a single Pfisterer document relating to Oswald's employment has been found. Why? Because in 1957 and 1958 Lee Oswald was in the Marines in Japan. John Hart Ely, a staff attorney for the Warren Commission, was responsible or gathering background information on Marguerite and Lee Oswald. He forwarded the Palmer McBride and William Wulf FBI interviews to Albert Jenner and Wesley Liebeler on March 30, 1964. From the FBI interview of McBride, Liebeler knew Oswald worked at Pfisterers in 1957 and 1958. From Oswald's Marine records he knew Oswald was supposed to have been in Japan at the same time. Oswald in both New Orleans and Japan for the same one year period posed yet another problem--it was unexplainable and had to be resolved. On April 10, 1964 Commission Attorney Albert Jenner wrote a memorandum to Mr. Rankin (General Counsel for the Warren Commission). He said "our depositions and examination of records and other data disclose there are details in Mr. Ely's memoranda which will require material alteration and, in some cases, omission". McBride's FBI statement was ignored and neither he nor the owners or employees of Pfisterers were interviewed by the Warren Commission. To establish Oswald's employment at Pfisterers in 1956, the Warren Commission interviewed William Wulf Jr., McBride's friend and fellow Astronomy club member. In Wulf"s testimony all references to the years 1957 or 1958 were avoided. In his opening statement, Liebeler said "We want to inquire of you concerning possible knowledge that you have of Lee Harvey Oswald during the time that he lived in New Orleans during the period 1954-1955." This was a clever and misleading statement by an attorney who knew exactly what he was doing. Liebeler fixed Wulfs attention to 1954 and 55. By misdirecting Wulf's attention to 1954 and 1955, references to 1957 or 1958 were avoided. Liebeler obtained "testimony" that allowed the Warren Commission to circumvent the problem of Oswald's working at Pfisterers in 1957/1958. In 1996 I spent the afternoon with Wulf. He reconstructed his school years from 1952 thru 1959. During the 1956-1957 school year he was sick and did not attend school. In the fall of 1957 he returned to DeLaSalle High School, where the meetings of the New Orleans Amateur Astronomy Association were held. He said he was certain he met Oswald that winter, in either January or February, 1958--exactly what McBride told the FBI in 1963. When the FBI visited the Hotel Senator after the assassination, they interviewed only those employees who had worked at the Hotel prior to 1956. They avoided employees who had worked at the hotel in 1957 and 1958 who could have remembered Oswald and his mother. They reviewed hotel registration cards for the year 1956 and avoided 1957 and 1958. The search for Oswald at the Hotel Senator was deliberately shifted from 1958 to "prior to 1956". McBride met Marguerite Oswald in 1958. Yet Marguerite left New Orleans in July, 1956, then lived and worked in and around Fort Worth until her death. She never again resided nor worked in New Orleans. But McBride insists he was introduced to Marguerite Oswald at the Hotel Senator in early 1958. McBride is not alone in his observation of Marguerite in New Orleans at this time--there were several other witnesses and photographs. On the left is a photograph of Marguerite Oswald in New Orleans in 1957. On the right is a photograph of Marguerite Oswald in Fort Worth in 1960--two different Marguerite Oswalds. The second way in which the FBI dealt with Oswald's presence in New Orleans in 1957 and 1958 concerned their handling of the physical evidence. Shortly after Oswald's arrest on November 22, Dallas Police searched Ruth Paine's house and 1026 North Beckley. They confiscated hundreds of items belonging to Oswald. That evening Dallas Police Chief Curry said "We got several calls insisting we send this (Oswald's possessions) and nobody would tell me exactly who it was that was insisting .... they insinuated it was someone in high authority that was requesting this ...... they wanted this evidence up in Washington". "About midnight Friday night--November 22--we agreed to let the FBI have all the evidence and they said they would have an agent stand by and when they were finished with it, return it to us." The person in "high authority" who had requested the evidence be turned over immediately to the FBI was President Johnson's aide, Cliff Carter. The bulk of Oswald's possessions were sent directly to the FBI in Washington without being inventoried or photographed. This provided an opportunity to tamper with evidence, which is exactly what they did. James Cadigan, an FBI document specialist received Oswald's possessions in Washington. He said initially that the first big batch of evidence was brought into the laboratory on November 23rd of 1963 and this consisted of many, many items". Cadigan went on to say "time was of the essence and this material, I believe, was returned to the Dallas Police within two or three days." This portion of Cadigan's testimony was deleted. Look at Oswald's possessions were secretly returned to the Dallas Police and then "officially" inventoried and photographed on November 26th. The changing of testimony was noticed by some of the Warren Commission Staff Attorneys. Leon Hubert wrote this memo to Warren Commission Attornies Howard Willens and Warren Commission General Counsel Rankin. He states "We are requiring witnesses to waive signatures on depositions or sign them. A waiver of signature certainly does not include permission to change meaning. At the staff meeting on Friday, I raised objections to "editing" of the transcripts of depositions. The only way to avoid all this is to let the depositions rest as they are". They ignored Hubert and "edited" testimony of Cadigan and many other witnesses. Among Oswald's possessions was a 1955 W-2 form from the Dolly Shoe Company. In April, 1955 Harvey Oswald was fired by Louis Marzialle after lunch. Full time employment at Dolly Shoe would be reflected in wages listed on his W-2 form. Full time employment would conflict with Lee Oswald attending Beauregard. So, Harvey Oswald's original W-2 form was replaced with this W-2 form which shows wages commensurate with part time employment. Who created this form and when? The Internal Revenue Service wrote this letter to former Dolly Shoe owner Maury Goodman. They informed him that the federal tax ID number for Dolly Shoe appearing on this 1955 W-2 form was not issued until January, 1964. Dolly Shoe was founded in January, 1955 and discontinued business in October, 1957. The federal tax ID on this 1955 W-2 form was issued 7 years after the company went out of business. So, who had custody of the W-2 form in January, 1964? The FBI did. The most significant item found among Oswald's possessions at Ruth Paine's was a W-2 form from the Pfisterer Dental Lab. That original W-2 form would have given the correct years Oswald worked at Pfisterers-1957 and 1958. But that item has disappeared. It was replaced with this 1956 W-2 form. This form purports to show that Oswald worked at Pfisterers in 1956 instead of 1957 and 1958 as reported by McBride and the owners of Pfisterers. However, this letter from the Internal Revenue Service informs us that the federal tax ID number appearing on this 1956 W-2 form was issued in January, 1964. This 1956 W-2 form is a fake--created in January, 1964 while in custody of the FBI. Its purpose was to show that Oswald was employed at Pfisterers 1956--before he entered the Marines--not in 1957 and 1958. The tax ID on the Tujague W-2 forms for 1955 and 1956 was also issued by the IRS in January, 1964. These W-2 forms were created to show Oswald worked at Tujague's for two months (November, December, 1955; January, 1956), instead of the year (July, 1955 through July, 1956) as remembered by Oswald's boss, Frank DiBenedetto and secretary Gloria Callaghan. Oswald's working at Tujague's for a year would have conflicted with his Warren Easton High School attendance and his employment at J.R. Michels. When Oswald's possessions were picked up by the Dallas Police on November 22 and 23, Officers Gus Rose and R. S. Stowall spent several hours initialing each and every item belonging to Oswald. Their initials should be on each W-2 form. When the Dallas Police turned over Oswald's possessions to the FBI each item was checked off and each inventory sheet initialed by FBI Agent Warren DeBrueys. But the Dolly Shoe, Tujague and Pfisterer W-2 forms in the National Archives do not have the initials of either Rose or Stowall. Those forms with Rose and Stowalls initials have disappeared They were replaced with forgeries, created in January 1964. These forged documents and 200 other items were then photographed by the FBI, and returned to Dallas in February, 1964. These forgeries are now in the National Archives (items #168, 169, 175 of WC Exhibit #2003). While Harvey Oswald attended Warren Easton High School in New Orleans in September and October, 1955, Lee Oswald was working at Tujague's. This created another conflict. School records could not be changed, but changing Oswald's dates of employment at Tujague's was easy. Instead of Lee Oswald working at Tujague's from August, 1955 thru July, 1956, his employment records were changed to show he worked at Tujague's for two months--from November, 1955 until January, 1956. These two months fit neatly between Harvey Oswald's Warren Easton attendance and Harvey Oswald's two week employment at J. R. Michels in January, 1956. Then, without identifying Oswald's dates of employment, the Warren Commission tells us he was employed for "a few months thereafter" at the Pfisterer Dental labs--in the spring of 1956. We now begin to see that the Warren Commission took parts of Harvey Oswald's and Lee Oswald's lives and created their fictionalized history of "Lee Harvey Oswald". In the fall of 1956, "Harvey Oswald," was in Fort Worth, Texas, where he briefly attended Arlington Heights High School. It was there that former elementary school friend Richard Garrett ran into Oswald. Garrett said "he walked up to me in the hall at school. I remember I had to look down to talk to him and it seemed strange, because he had been the tallest, the dominant member of our group in grammar school. He looked like he was lost. He was very different from the way I remember him". Of course he was different, Harvey had temporarily replaced Lee. Harvey joined the Marines in October, three weeks after this photo was taken. Two weeks later, someone wrote to the Red Cross asking for help in obtaining emergency leave for Lee Oswald. The first inquiry was received by the Red Cross on November 9--only two weeks after Oswald join the Marines. From the Red Cross records, we see that Marguerite's address is 3830 W. 6th, yet according to her landlady she lived at 4936 Collinwood until July, 1957. Lee Oswald's birth date was given as October 19, instead of October 18. His military branch was first listed as "Army", then scratched out and changed to "Marines". Finally, we see that the original inquiry came from Oswald's father--not his mother. All references to "him " have been scratched out and changed to "her". Why would someone inquire about emergency leave for a son only two weeks after he joined the Marines? Or did this inquiry come from the father of one of the Oswalds, and later, when someone realized Oswald's father died before he was born, the references on the Red Cross form were changed from "his" to "her". The 112th Military Intelligence Group at Fort Sam Houston maintained a file on Harvey Lee Oswald, that was "routinely destroyed" in 1973. After Boot Camp and ITR training, Harvey Oswald left for Jacksonville, Florida. Lee Oswald also joined the Marines in October, 1956. This photo of Lee, found in a Naval Intelligence file at the National Archives, was taken in December, 1956. After Boot Camp and ITR training, Lee Oswald left for Jacksonville, Florida. Allen Felde (WC exhibit #1962) said he and Oswald attended an A & P School in Jacksonville, Florida and then aviation electronics school in Memphis, Tennessee. Felde described Oswald as a left winged person who wrote to Senator Thurman and condemned Eisenhower. Felde is describing Harvey Oswald. While Lee Oswald attended Radar School in Biloxi, Mississippi in June, 1957, Allen Felde and Harvey Oswald attended Aviation Electronics School in Memphis, Tennessee. When Lee transferred to El Toro in July, and left for Japan in August, Allen Felde and Harvey Oswald were still in Memphis. Felde last saw Harvey Oswald in September, 1957, when Lee was already in Japan. Even though Felde was with Oswald for a year, he was not interviewed by the Warren Commission nor the House Select Committee. Felde, like McBride, knew too much about Harvey Oswald to be interviewed. In January, 1957 military records show "Lee Harvey Oswald" was treated for tonsillitis. He was treated again for tonsillitis in 1958 and given injections of penicilliin. But according to an FBI report, Dr. Philben, of Dallas, Texas had removed Oswald's tonsils twelve years earlier--in January, 1945. >From Memphis, Harvey Oswald may have traveled to Columbus, Ohio. Sgt. Donald Swartz of the Columbus, Ohio Police Department Intelligence Division filed a report stating that Lee Harvey Oswald attended Antioch College, in Yellow Springs, Ohio for a short period of time in the fall of 1957. Additional allegations of Oswald's presence in Yellow Springs, Ohio came from an unidentified Counterintelligence Agent from the Office of Special Investigations at Wright Patterson Air Force Base in Ohio. The agent said Oswald received money, on a regular basis, through money orders issued by the Miami Deposit Bank of Yellow Springs, Ohio. In November of 1957, Harvey Oswald was in New Orleans where he worked at the Pfisterer Dental Labs with Palmer McBride until July, 1958--while Lee Oswald was in Japan. This photo of Harvey was probably taken in early 1957. Lee Oswald, while in Japan, never spoke Russian, read Russian newspapers, nor discussed Communism. He hated the name "Harvey" or "Harv", and was given the nickname "Ozzie". Peter Cassisi, John Heindel and other Marines who served with Oswald in Atsugi remembered Lee Oswald returning to the base drunk, loud, and boisterous on numerous occasions. But the person killed by Jack Ruby did not drink, did not smoke, and usually did not speak unless spoken to. In October, 1957 Lee Oswald shot himself in the arm with a .22 derringer while in the Marines at Atsugi. Lee Oswald was taken to the hospital where the wound was sewed up. Later an incision was made in Lee Oswald's arm 2 inches from the entrance wound to remove the bullet. No scars from these arm wounds are visible from photographs taken during Oswald's autopsy. Mortician Paul Groody was twice asked about scars on Oswald's arms. Both times Groody said he had not seen any scars on Oswald's arms. The FBI interviewed 36 Marines who were acquainted with the "Oswalds." There were 26 men who knew "Harvey Oswald" at El Toro in 1959, 2 who knew Lee Oswald from radar school, and 8 who were stationed with Lee Oswald in Japan. The FBI ignored Marines who knew Lee Oswald in Japan, like Zack Stout, George Wilkens, and Bobby Warren, choosing instead to interview Marines who barely knew him. William Trail "saw little of Oswald". Paul Murphy "did not know Oswald personally". Owen Dejanovich "never had any discussions of any kind with Oswald". Cassisi did not recognize Oswald as his former Marine associate when Oswald's pictures were published after the assassination. Lee Oswald was close with three Marines-George Wilkens, Zack Stout, and Bobby Warren. They often went on liberty with Oswald on weekends. They visited the Queen Bee bar, were together on Corregidor, Cubic Bay. Stout said "Ozzie" was always writing letters to his mother. Yet no letters from Japan can be found. It is doubtful the handwriting from any of Lee's letters from Japan would match the handwriting of Harvey's letters from Russia. After Oswald snapped the photo of George Wilkens, on the right, Wilkins then took a photograph of Oswald, the one on the left. These Marines, who were with Lee Oswald nearly every day in Japan, were not interviewed by the Warren Commission. Zack Stouts interview in 1978, by the House Select Committee, was withheld from the public until 1996. Marines who were close to Lee Oswald were either not interviewed or their interviews were not made public. This 1958 photo, taken by Robert Oswald, is the "Lee Oswald" known by Zack Stout, George Wilkins and Bobby Warren, not Harvey Oswald who defected to Russia. Harvey Oswald, who left the Pfisterer Dental Lab in July, 1958, took Lee's place at the Marine base in El Toro, California in December. Harvey used the next 9 months to convince fellow Marines of his interest in Communism and his ability to speak Russian. Some researchers have speculated that Oswald learned Russian at the Monterray school of languages in California. When? During Boot Camp or Infantry training in California? In Jacksonville, Florida or Biloxi, Mississippi? In Japan with his mobile radar unit that traveled to the Philippines and Taiwan? No, the Lee Oswald who left Japan in November, 1958 did not speak a word of Russian. Russian speaking "Harvey" replaced Lee at El Toro and took a Russian language exam in February, 1959. Lee Oswald's brother, John Pic, wasn't fooled by the switch. When shown a photograph of "Lee Harvey Oswald" wearing a Marine helmet, Pic told the Warren Commission, "I would never guess that that would be Lee". Pic knew this person was not his brother. So did Robert Oswald. On March 23, Harvey Oswald obtained a GED--equivalent to a high school degree. When Attorney Rankin questioned Marguerite Oswald in 1964 about the high school degree she said. "I have that. His original correspondence in the service--completed high school. January, 1958--passing 65 on a scale of 100". Two high school GED degrees-one obtained by Lee in January, 1958--one obtained by Harvey in March, 1959--both obtained while in the Marines. In June, Harvey Oswald had a date with Roslyn Quinn. They spoke Russian together for several hours. Oswald's interest in reading Russian newspapers, listening to Russian records and speaking Russian was noticed by fellow Marines who called him "Oswaldovich". Kerry Thornley, from New Orleans, noticed that Oswald spoke with no southern dialect--if anything, he had a New York accent. Thornley knew Harvey, the Oswald who had lived in New York. On August 7, 1959, Harvey Oswald was granted a dependency discharge from the Marines. His early discharge was predicated upon an alleged work-related injury suffered by Marguerite Oswald. Dr. Milton Goldberg had first treated her in January, 1959. Marguerite told him that "her son wanted to defect to Russia". This was 10 months before Harvey went to Russia. Harvey Oswald remained at El Toro until his discharge on September I1, 1959. Lee Oswald was living in New Orleans. Captain Valentine Ashworth met Oswald in New Orleans "before he went to Russia". On June 28, 1959 Oswald was registered in room "D" at the McBeth Rooming House in New Orleans. A month later Mrs. Gladys Davis was introduced to Lee Oswald at her home in Coral Gables, Florida. In September, 1959, she was living with Martinez Malo who had numerous Cuban associates who came to their residence. A Cuban exile named Francisco Rodriquez Tamayo AKA "Mexicano" had introduced Oswald to her. This is the same time frame during which Marita Lorenz claims she first met Oswald in a CIA safehouse in Miami. Lee Oswald would continue his associations with Cuban exiles and their CIA "handlers" for the next three years while Harvey Oswald was in Russia. Lee Oswald used this photo on this Los Angeles passport application. He used this Department of Defense ID card for identification, a card, often issued to intelligence operatives. But the photo on the ID card was only half his, the other half of the photo, the right half was Harvey. This ID card could be used by either Harvey or Lee. Lee Oswald then traveled to Fort Worth, visited his mother, and remained there through September 16. On September 16, Harvey Oswald was in New Orleans and filled out a passenger emigration form. He did not have the Los Angeles issued passport with him and incorrectly listed the issuing passport office as New Orleans. Lee, who had the Los Angeles issued passport, was still in Fort Worth. A side by side comparison of the emigration form and Oswald's passport application reveals not only inconsistencies, it also provides a rare chance to compare the handwriting of Lee Oswald and Harvey Oswald. Harvey Oswald purchased a ticket from a travel agency in the International Trade Mart Building, boarded the SS Marion Lykes, and left for Russia. This article and photo appeared in the Fort Worth Star Telegram concerning Oswald's defection. This is Lee Oswald, recognizable to residents of Fort Worth. Harvey Oswald's photograph did not appear in Fort Worth newspapers in 1959--no one in Fort Worth would have recognized Harvey as "Lee Oswald". RUSSIA Lee Oswald remained in the US while Harvey went to Russia. When Harvey Oswald met Marina, she thought he was a native Russian with a Baltic accent. When she learned he was a foreigner, she asked which of his parents was Russian. His March, 1961 medical records from Minsk list his name as "Harvey Alik Oswald". A State Department Security Office memo of March 2, 1961 refers to "Harvey" Oswald. A letter written to Oswald in May 3, 1961 is addressed to Esteemed Citizen "Harvey Oswald". A CIA memo of November 25, 1963 explained the agencies interest in the "Harvey" story. The merging of Harvey Oswald with Lee Oswald's background had been successful. Russian speaking Harvey was in Russia and Lee was working with CIA operatives in New Orleans, Texas and Florida. People who look similar, like Harvey and Lee, are often used by the intelligence community. Castro's top agents were identical twin brothers--Patricio and Antonio De La Guardia. Lee and Harvey were not identical in appearance, but they looked similar enough to confuse, deceive, and fool those who knew or saw them. This is the smoke and mirrors Jim Garrison spoke of--trademarks of the intelligence community. Lee Oswald was in New Orleans and Florida in the summer and fall of 1959. William Huffman told the FBI he saw Oswald "sometime after Castro came to power, in January, 1959". Oswald and four or five Cubans fueled a 43 foot Chris Craft diesel boat at his dock. Oswald telephoned "Ruben" in Key West, who came to the dock and paid for the fuel. "Ruben" may have been Jack Ruby, who ran guns to Castro in the late 1950's from a house in Kemah, Texas. Neighbors were quite familiar with Jack Ruby, and remember his weekend trips to Cuba in a 50 foot surplus military craft loaded with guns. Marita Lorenz met Lee Oswald at a safehouse in Miami in 1960 and saw and photographed him again at CIA training camps in the Florida everglades several times during 1960 and 1961. Former Congresswoman Clare Boothe Luce financed Cuban exile groups in the early 1960's. The Captain of one of these groups advised Luce "that (Lee) Oswald and others were involved in infiltration of Communist groups in that area". By June, 1960 J. Edgar Hoover was aware of an Oswald in the States and an Oswald in Russia. He sent this memo to his field offices warning them that an impostor may be using Oswald's birth certificate. FBI files contain many reports of Lee Oswald in the States while Harvey is in Russia, but you won't find them in the Warren Volumes. In January, 1961, Fred Sewell, manager of the Bolton Ford Truck center in New Orleans met "Lee Oswald", who wanted to buy trucks to be sent to Cuba. The sales order form listed the purchaser as Friends of Democratic Cuba whose members included former FBI Agent Guy Bannister, active FBI agents Logan and Kennedy, Lee Oswald's former employer, Gerard Tujague, and CIA operative William Dalzell. In the spring of 1961, Lee Oswald visited the Dumas and Milnes Chevrolet Dealership in New Orleans. He and salesman James Spencer had coffee at Walgreens and discussed the sale of a 1958 Chevrolet to Oswald. This Oswald, Lee Oswald, could drive and, as we shall see, had a valid Texas drivers license. In May, 1961 Robert Taber, a member of the Fair Play for Cuba Committee, and "Lieutenant Oswald" met with Dr. Enrique Luaces in Havana, Cuba. Oswald was introduced as an arms expert. Dr. Luaces said he had no doubt that the Oswald he met in 1961 and the Lee Harvey Oswald whose picture appeared on television after the assassination are one and the same. After the assassination the US Army forwarded a file captioned "Harvey Oswald" to the FBI which contained an Army Intelligence report about Oswald and Robert Taber in Cuba. In July, 1961, Ray Camay, news director for radio station KBOX in Dallas, told the FBI he met with Lee Oswald on several occasions in the summer of 1961. Oswald tried to obtain from him the names of pilots who had volunteered to fly Flying Tiger missions over Cuba. The FBI knew how to deal with Carney. They told him that Oswald was in Russia during 1961 and he was obviously mistaken. In the fall of 1961, Police Officer Charles Noto arrested Lee Oswald and Celso Hernandez on Breakwater Road on the Lakefront in New Orleans. They were brought to Levee Board Police Headquarters where, after a closed door session with Marcel Champon, the officer in charge, they were released. This 1961 arrest is very important. Two years later, in August, 1963, Celso Hernandez would again be arrested. But this time he was arrested with Harvey Oswald, who created a disturbance by handing out "Fair Play for Cuba Literature". Hernandez knew both Oswalds. In late 1961 and early 1962 Stephen Landesberg, Earl Perry, and Oswald created demonstrations in New York City. Landesberg and Perry would create the demonstrations while Oswald took photographs. A few hours after the assassination Landesberg told his story to the FBI. The FBI knew how to deal with Landesberg. Because the FBI knew Oswald was in Russia during 1961 and early 1962, they charged Landesberg with providing false information to the government and summarily had him committed to the Bellevue Psychiatric Center in New York. The entire court case, US vs. Steven Harris Landesberg, including two backup microfilm copies, disappeared from the court archival records. When the FBI tried to obtain Earl Perry's records from the Marines, they were told they would first have to get clearance from the Pentagon-from the Pentagon! In the summer of 1962, Leander D'Avy worked as a doorman at the Court of Two Sisters restaurant in the French Quarter. A man he later identified as Lee Harvey Oswald approached him and asked for Clay Bertrand. The restaurant manager, Gene Davis, told D'Avy he would speak with the man. Davis spoke to Oswald at the bar and later, after Oswald left, told D'Avy that the man had been behind the Iron Curtain. On a Saturday morning in November, 1963, about two or three weeks before the assassination, D'Avy went looking for Davis to obtain his paycheck. He found Davis in an upstairs storeroom that was being used as a makeshift apartment. With Davis were Lee Harvey Oswald, David Ferrie, a Cuban, and three unidentified men. In 1968, New Orleans D. A. Jim Garrison wanted to question Davis about his associations with Oswald. Garrison had asked Davis to take a polygraph test, but he refused. He had good reason to refuse. Eugene Clair Davis was an active informant of the New Orleans FBI designated symbol informant 1189-C as of October 11, 1961. The National Archives has many documents on Gene Davis, most of them "postponed in full". >From 1959 thru the Spring of 1962 Lee Oswald was surrounded by people involved in Cuban affairs-people we now know were either working for or closely associated with the CIA and FBI. In June 1962 Harvey Oswald left Russia, and moved to Fort Worth where he impressed the Dallas Russian community with his command of the Russian language. George DeMohrenschildt said Harvey preferred speaking Russian to English. He discussed classical Russian literature with Harvey-in the Russian language. Speaking elementary Russian is one thing. Speaking and reading Russian well enough to discuss "classical Russian literature" with a well educated native speaking Russian is another. The Warren Commission wants us to believe this high school dropout taught himself Russian by reading Russian newspapers--at age 19. In reality Harvey Oswald had been speaking Russian for a long time-- since childhood. Oswald's Russian speaking ability allowed him to observe and report on conditions in the Soviet Union. His 50 page manuscript (Volume 16, pp. 287-336) is replete with minute detail, facts and data--not the type of information recorded by a tourist or temporary resident of Russia. When Lee Oswald's older brother, John Pic, saw "Harvey" Oswald after his return from Russia, Pic told the Warren Commission "the Lee Harvey Oswald I met in November, 1962 was not the same Lee Oswald I had known 10 years previous". When Attorney Jenner asked Pic how he looked physically "as compared with when you had last seen him," Pic replied "I would never have recognized him, sir". You noticed a material change in his appearance? Pic replied, "much thinner, didn't have as much hair, different facial features, eyes set back, his face was rounder, and he no longer had a bull neck". The Oswald that Pic saw on Thanksgiving day in 1962 wrote his name in Pic's address book as "Harvey". In September, 1962, when Harvey Oswald was working at Leslie Welding in Fort Worth, ex-CIA agent Donald Norton met with Lee Harvey Oswald in Mexico. He gave Oswald $50,000 in cash and received, in turn, a manila envelope. In March, 1963 when Harvey and Marina were living on Neeley Street, a letter was found in the mail box at the Carousel Club addressed to Jake Rubenstein. The return address was "Lee Oswald, 1106 Diceman Avenue, Dallas, Texas". Daniel Thomas McGown, a prominent Memphis attorney, found the letter below the mailbox. He notified the FBI of the letter after the assassination. In June, 1963 Harvey Oswald applied for a passport. He listed his mother's and father's birth date incorrectly and misspelled his mother's maiden name. Four years earlier, in September, 1959, Lee Oswald had applied for a passport and made similar mistakes. It is likely the 1959 passport application was filled out by Lee and the 1963 passport application was filled out by Harvey. The discrepancies in his parents birth dates on two passport applications are unexplainable. Curiously, another individual applied for and received passports on two separate occasions and made the same mistakes as Oswald--both parents had different birth dates listed on each passport application. That person was Oswald's cousin, Marilyn Murrett. In July, while Harvey is working at the Reilly Coffee Company in New Orleans, Marshall Hicks, an employee of Western Union, delivered several telegrams to Lee Harvey Oswald at 1501 W. 7th, in Fort Worth. In the Spring and Summer of 1963 Dorothy Marcum dated Jack Ruby. She was certain that Oswald and Ruby not only knew each other, but that Oswald had worked for Ruby in June and July, 1963. When Jack Ruby's Oldsmobile needed work, mechanic Robert Roy said it was Lee Oswald who delivered and picked up the car, not once, but several times. When Frances Hise visited Jack Ruby at the Carousel Club, she saw a man enter through the back door. Ruby said, "Hi Ozzie," and told him to go in the back room. When Ruby finished speaking with Miss Hise he joined "Ozzie". She said there was "no doubt in her mind" it was Oswald. Dozens of people saw Oswald and Ruby together in the summer and fall of 1963. This is precisely the time during which Harvey was residing with Marina in New Orleans. It was Lee Oswald who knew Jack Ruby. Here is a list of people who place Oswald and Ruby together. Through early 1963, the activities of Harvey Oswald and Lee Oswald had no apparent relationship to the assassination. But in the summer of 1963 things changed. Antonio Veciana observed his long time associate "Bishop" with Lee Oswald at the Southland Building in Dallas. "Bishop" also known as David Atlee Phillips was the head of Cuban Propaganda for the CIA. Why would the head of CIA Cuban Propaganda operations be with Lee Oswald? .... Because the plot, as it developed, could not have succeeded without Lee Oswald. During the next two months Lee Oswald was used to impersonate Harvey in a series of events that were designed to set up "Harvey" as the assassin and implicate Cuba as his sponsor. It is not unreasonable to speculate that David Phillips masterminded this plan. After the assassination, Phillips was in a perfect position to receive, direct and control inquiries to the CIA in Mexico City regarding Oswald. As most researchers know, there were many bogus CIA dispatches that came from Mexico City following the assassination. In August, Harvey was arrested in New Orleans for creating a disturbance while passing out "Fair Play for Cuba Literature". Helping him was Charles Hall Steele, who we now know was an FBI informant identified as "Dallas T-14". A photograph of Oswald was shown to Oswald's brother, John Pic. Attorney Jenner asked "Do you recognize the young man handing out the leaflets?" Pic replied "No, sir, I would be unable to recognize him". Jenner replied "As to whether he was your brother". Pic replied "That is correct" . Once again, John Pic refused to identify Harvey Oswald as his brother. Instead of asking Pic to identify the person in the photos, they asked no further questions. Again and again Pic told the Warren Commission the photos in Life Magazine were not his brother-but nobody listened. How many times does John Pic have to tell us these photos are not his brother before we finally believe him? In September 1963, while Harvey is in New Orleans, "Lee Oswald" and Mr. Hernandez approached Robert McKeown at his home in Bay Cliff, Texas. Hernandez, in his 40's, may have been forty seven year old Celso Hernandez, arrested with Oswald in New Orleans in 1961, and arrested with Oswald in August, 1963. Lee Oswald offered to purchase four Savage .300 caliber automatic rifles with scopes for $1,000 each-rifles that could be purchased for $300 from Sears & Roebuck. McKeown wondered why someone would pay him so much for these rifles. McKeown told the HSCA "that is what puzzled me, why would he come to me". McKeown may have been puzzled, but it made perfect sense to the people who sent Lee Oswald to purchase the rifles. A photograph appeared in the Houston Chronicle on April 29, 1959. It was McKeown and his friend Fidel Castro. McKeown had provided Castro with armaments during the Cuban revolution. Grateful for McKeown's help, Castro had flown to Houston and offered McKeown concessions or a high position in the Cuban government. If anyone had wanted to place the blame for Kennedy's assassination on the Cuban government, what better way than to have Castro's close friend and gun supplier, Robert McKeown, provide Oswald with rifles to assassinate Kennedy. In September, 1963, Mrs. Lou Hayes noticed a young man sitting close to her on a bus. He began talking about his "recent trip to Cuba". He said "I flew there. I saw Castro". Two months later, when Mrs. Hayes saw Oswald's photograph on TV, she recognized him as the young man she had seen on the bus. Mrs. Hayes was a long time friend of Warren Commission member Hale Boggs. Mr. Boggs sent this letter to Warren Commission counsel J. Lee Rankin. He wrote "Mrs. Hayes is a thoroughly responsible person and information contained in her letter of December 11, 1963 should be checked out thoroughly by the Commission". The statements made by the person she saw on the bus, probably Lee Oswald, were staged to show a close relationship between Cuba, Castro, and Oswald. In September, 1963 former Army Intelligence Officer Richard Case Nagel knew of an impending assassination attempt on President Kennedy. Nagel wrote to J. Edgar Hoover advising "that a conspiracy involving Lee Harvey Oswald would take place in the latter part of September, 1963". Wanting no part of a conspiracy Nagel, on September 20, walked into the State National Bank in El Paso and fired shots into the ceiling. He walked outside, waited for the police to arrest him, and was taken to jail. When searched, the police found a photocopy of an ID card belonging to Lee Harvey Oswald. A close examination of the Oswald ID card found on Nagel and the Oswald ID card taken from Oswald on November 22 show differences. The postmark on Oswald's card does not appear on Nagel's copy. The signatures do not match and the photographs are not the same. The photograph on Nagel's copy of Oswald's ID card, though not very clear, has different facial features, a different hairline, and different clothing (the person in Nagel's ID card is wearing a tie). Two different photos of Oswald on two, otherwise identical, ID cards. What Nagel was doing with a copy of Oswald's ID card two months before the assassination is a mystery. On September 23, while Harvey, Marina, June. and Ruth Paine were in New Orleans, a "Lee Oswald" applied for a job, through the Texas Employment Commission, at the Semter Drug Depot in Dallas, Texas. On September 25, when "Oswald" cashed an unemployment check at the Winn Dixie Store in New Orleans, Mrs. Lee Dannelly of the Selective Service Commission in Austin, Texas, interviewed a man who identified himself as Harvey Oswald. He was attempting to straighten out his dishonorable discharge from the Marines. Oswald said he had entered the Marines in Florida and resided in Fort Worth. Oswald was also seen in an Austin cafe later that day. On September 26, An "Oswald" sat next to John Howard Bowen/Albert Osborne on a bus bound for Mexico City. He discussed Mexico with two Australian girls, pointed out landmarks, and recommended the Hotel Cuba in Mexico City. On September 27th an Oswald visited the Cuban Embassy. When refused a visa, he caused a minor scene which was remembered by embassy personnel. J. Edgar Hoover alleged that when Oswald was refused a visa, he left saying "I'm going to kill Kennedy for this". Hoover's allegation was not supported by the Cubans at the embassy. Cuban consul Eusebio Azcue and his assistant Sylvia Duran remembered Oswald. Sylvia Duran said Oswald was her he... Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Bernice Moore - 30-12-2010 SPIES lonsdale and the cuban twins..delaguardia Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Bernice Moore - 30-12-2010 Here are some items, info collected from w/c etc...re lho... like his reading list of books they eventually put together...fwtaw.the research photos of lho comparisons by jack white....b:popworm: Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Bernice Moore - 30-12-2010 a few tothers...b:popworm: Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Jan Klimkowski - 30-12-2010 Bernice - thank you for posting much fascinating material. All - please also see additional information in other DPF threads: http://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?854-From-Tree-Frog-on-double-LHO http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?989-Armstrong-s-Hypothosis-Harvey-and-Lee-Applied-to-Tippit Due to the recent sabotage of DPF, members may need to login again on these pages to get full readability and functionality. Fwiw - I've reposted my comments on the MK-ULTRA sub-projects, allegedly studying Hungarian refugees, below: Jan Klimkowski Wrote:This is probably not relevant but there are several MKULTRA subprojects dealing specifically with "Hungarians". http://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?989-Armstrong-s-Hypothosis-Harvey-and-Lee-Applied-to-Tippit/page2 Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Bernice Moore - 30-12-2010 Your welcome and thanks for the links...b Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Bernice Moore - 31-12-2010 Jack Paris Flammonde did not find anything pertaining to Judyth during his long research into the New Orleans saga,either, in fact in his first book of his series Assassination of America ''the kennedy coups d' etat'', he is rather hard on her and her given information...he found nothing...and does not believe her..b Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Albert Doyle - 31-12-2010 This is explosive and revelatory. This is the movie that needs to be made. Harvey & Lee. Once you establish this level of intrigue you can pretty much assume Jensen's MKULTRA witnessing. I never gave much thought about the double theory, not really dismissing it, but not really giving it much attention either. But you can see from Armstrong's proof that it is a no doubter. My problem with it was always you couldn't fool the relatives, but now I see why Marina doesn't come out with all she knows. She's being held, trapped in the open, by the unspeakable. Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - Bernice Moore - 01-01-2011 good reply albert...all here are a few others i believe all are jack's studies but perhaps one, comparing them... |