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Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - Peter Lemkin - 03-01-2011

Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots?
[With many other such plots not mentioned, you are invited to add.....]
by Paul Craig Roberts

Global Research, November 30, 2010
Sott.net

The latest one snared Osman Mohamud, a Somali-American teenager in Portland, Oregon. The Associated Press report by William Mall and Nedra Pickler (11-27-10) is headlined in Yahoo News: "Somali-born teen plotted car-bombing in Oregon."

This is a misleading headline as the report makes it clear that it was a plot orchestrated by federal agents. Two sentences into the news report we have this: "The bomb was an elaborate fake supplied by the [FBI] agents and the public was never in danger, authorities said."

The teenager was supplied with a fake bomb and a fake detonator.

Three sentences later the reporters contradict the quoted authorities with a quote from Arthur Balizan, special agent in charge of the FBI in Oregon: "The threat was very real."

The reporters then contradict Balizan: "White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said Saturday that president Barack Obama was aware of the FBI operation before Friday's arrest. Shapiro said Obama was assured that the FBI was in full control of the operation and that the public was not in danger."

Then Shapiro contradicts himself by declaring: "The events of the past 24 hours underscore the necessity of remaining vigilant against terrorism here and abroad."

The story arrives at its Kafka highpoint when President Obama thanks the FBI for its diligence in saving us from the fake plot the FBI had fabricated.

After vacillating between whether they are reporting a real plot or a orchestrated one, the reporters finally come down on the side of orchestration. Documents released by US Attorney Dwight Holton "show the sting operation began in June." Obviously, the targeted Portland teenager was not hot to trot. The FBI had to work on him for six months. The reporters compare "the Portland sting" to the recent arrest in Virginia of Faroque Ahmed who was ensnared in a "bombing plot that was a ruse conducted over the past six months by federal officials."

Think about this. The FBI did a year's work in order to convince two people to participate in fake plots.

If you are not too bright and some tough looking guys accost you and tell you that they are Al Qaeda and expect your help in a terrorist operation, you might be afraid to say no, or you might be thrilled to be part of a blowback against an American population that is indifferent to their government's slaughter of people of your ethnicity in your country of origin. Whichever way it falls, it is unlikely the ensnared person would ever have done anything beyond talk had the FBI not organized them into action. In other cases the FBI entices people with money to participate in its fake plots.

Since 9/11, the only domestic "terrorist plot" that I recall that was not obviously organized by the FBI is the "Times Square plot" to which Faisal Shahzad pleaded guilty to trying to set off a car bomb in Manhattan. This plot, too, is suspicious. One would think that a real terrorist would have a real bomb, not a smoke bomb.

In his May 19, 2009 article (reprinted Nov. 27, 2010), Joe Quinn of online site, Sott.net, collects some of the fake plots, some of which were validated by torture confessions and others by ignorant and fearful juries. The US government comes up with a plot, an accused, and tortures him until he confesses, or the government fabricates a case and takes it to jurors who know that they cannot face their neighbors if they let off a media-declared "terrorist."

Perhaps the most obvious of these cases is "the Miami seven," a hapless group of Christian-Zionist-Muslims that called themselves the "Sea of David" and were quietly living in a Florida warehouse awaiting biblical end times. Along came the FBI posing as Al Qaeda and offered them $50,000 and an Al Qaeda swearing-in ceremony.

The FBI told them that they needed to blow up the Sears Tower in Chicago and various government buildings. An honest reporter at Knight Ridder revealed: "The Justice (sic) Department unveiled the arrests with an orchestrated series of news conferences in two cities, but the severity of the charges compared with the seemingly amateurish nature of the group raised concerns among civil libertarians," who noted that the group had "no weapons, no explosives."

The Justice (sic) Department and tamed media made a big show out of the "militaristic boots" worn by the hapless "plotters," but the FBI had bought the boots for them.

The biggest piece of evidence against the hapless group was that they had taken photos of "targets" in Florida, but the US government had equipped them with cameras.

The US government even rented cars for its dupes to drive to take the pictures.

It turns out that the group only wanted the $50,000, but an American jury convicted them anyhow.

When the US government has to go to such lengths to create "terrorists" out of hapless people, an undeclared agenda is being served. What could this agenda be?

The answer is many agendas. One agenda is to justify wars of aggression that are war crimes under the Nuremberg standard created by the US government itself. One way to avoid war crimes charges is to create acts of terrorism that justify the naked aggressions against "terrorist countries."

Another agenda is to create a police state. A police state can control people who object to their impoverishment for the benefit of the superrich much more easily than can a democracy endowed with constitutional civil liberties.

Another agenda is to get rich. Terror plots, whether real or orchestrated, have created a market for security. Dual Israeli citizen Michael Chertoff, former head of US Homeland Security, is the lobbyist who represents Rapiscan, the company that manufactures the full body porno-scanners that, following the "underwear bomber" event, are now filling up US airports. Homeland Security has announced that they are going to purchase the porno-scanners for trains, buses, subways, court houses, and sports events. How can shopping malls and roads escape? Recently on Interstate 20 west of Atlanta, trucks had to drive through a similar device. Everyone has forgotten that the underwear bomber lacked required documents and was escorted aboard the airliner by an official.

© Unknown Snakes in suits: ex-Homeland Security chief Chertoff and ex-AG Gonzalez The "war on terror" provides an opportunity for a few well-connected people to become very rich. If they leave Americans with a third world police state, they will be living it up in Gstaad.

This despite the fact that everyone on the planet knows that it is not lactating mothers, children, elderly people in walkers and wheelchairs, members of Congress, members of the military, nuns, and so on, who are members of Al Qaeda plotting to bring aboard a bomb in their underwear, their shoes, their shampoo and face creams.

Indeed, bombs aboard airliners are a rare event.

What is it really all about? Could it be that the US government needs terrorist events in order to completely destroy the US Constitution? On November 24, National Public Radio broadcast a report by Dina Temple-Raston: "Administration officials are looking at the possibility of codifying detention without trial and are awaiting legislation that is supposed to come out of Congress early next year." Of course, the legislation will not come out of Congress. It will be written by Homeland Security and the Justice (sic) Department. The impotent Congress will merely rubber-stamp it.

The obliteration of habeas corpus, the most necessary and important protection of liberty ever institutionalized in law and governing constitution, has become necessary for the US government, because a jury might acquit an alleged or mock "terrorist" or framed person whom the US government has declared prior to the trial will be held forever in indefinite detention even if acquitted in a US court of law. The attorney general of the United States has declared that any "terrorist" that he puts on trial who is acquitted by a jury will remain in detention regardless of the verdict. Such an event would reveal the total lawlessness of American "justice."

The United States of America, "the city upon the hill," "the light unto the world," has become Nazi Germany. It was the practice of the Gestapo to ignore court verdicts and to execute or hold indefinitely the cleared defendant in the camps. The Obama regime is in the process of completing Dick Cheney's dream by legislating the legality of indefinite detention. American law has collapsed to the dungeons of the Dark Ages.


This Nazi Gestapo policy is now the declared policy of the US Department of Justice (sic).

Anyone who thinks the United States is a free society where people have liberty, "freedom and democracy" is uninformed.


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - Magda Hassan - 04-01-2011

Quote:The teenager was supplied with a fake bomb and a fake detonator.
Unlike the real bomb the FBI supplied in the World Trade Center bombing in Clinton's day. Good to see them thinking of public safety. :e=mc2:


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - David Guyatt - 04-01-2011

Strategy of Tension stuff. The Brits are also masters of it.

And that reminds me. Does anyone know if a domestic US stay-behind Gladio network was ever organized post WWII? It struck me the other day that there were sufficient former SS and Nazi immigrants permitted in to the US after WWII and that those who organized the Europe-wide Gladio network would probably not miss the opportunity to have a home grown one also, for all the usual "excellent" reasons having to do with controlling and shaping "democracy" towards a right-wing agenda.

Thoughts anyone?


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - Magda Hassan - 04-01-2011

I don't know for sure but certainly there were all the John Birch groups, Minutemen (and Minute Women) , World Anti-Communist League groups plus all the various ethnic and religious anti-communist groups plus the Klan and USNASP types proliferating around and many of them could have been involved in such a network. Not to mention the whole US shadow government and not a small bit of the 'official' government and its military.


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - Peter Lemkin - 04-01-2011

David, My thoughts would be they would exist FOR SURE and while some have been constant, others have changed or seemed to have changed name/form. The groups Magda mentioned, some right-wing religious and separatist/rascist/isolationist/hate/ all non-white, born-again Christian right wing men groups/neo-Nazi/Police organizations/Intelligence/much of Military upper echelons/COG crowd/and much of he Deep Political Government and their supporters finance and control these groups, as needed. Many, to most, of the false-flag ops in the USA were totally or in part done by these stay behind groups in the Heimat. The Captured Nations Groups; anti-Castro Cubans, FEMA, HS, Private Military Contractors, Guards for the Military Contractors, The US Military Command in Charge of N.A.,...the list goes on and on and on....

...everyone who wouldn't want to be a member of this Forum :popworm:


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - David Guyatt - 04-01-2011

I do get all that crowd of crazies, but the peculiarity that is my mind, suddenly asked the question whether there was a specific Gladio stay-behind network as we have in Europe. Maybe there was no need as the home grown loonies on the right (dangerous and deadly loonies I agree) were more than enough for the job.

But...


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - Jan Klimkowski - 04-01-2011

David Guyatt Wrote:I do get all that crowd of crazies, but the peculiarity that is my mind, suddenly asked the question whether there was a specific Gladio stay-behind network as we have in Europe. Maybe there was no need as the home grown loonies on the right (dangerous and deadly loonies I agree) were more than enough for the job.

But...

David et al - an important question.

I view and use "Gladio" in a very smilar way to that in which I use "MK-ULTRA".

MK-ULTRA is the visible, limited hangout, tip of decades of deep black research into, loosely, controlling human behaviour. When I say MK-ULTRA, I usually mean to reference all such covert "mind" research.

Similarly, it can be argued that Gladio technically only refers to the Italian portion of the "anti-communist stay behind armies", although it is commonly used to refer to the entire European stay behind operation.

Quote:"Gladio was the name given to the Italian branch of a network with the
harmless official name, Allied Co-Ordination Committee, set up with British
help in the 1950's, operated by the secret services and partly financed by
the United States CIA."
(Richard Norton-Taylor, Guardian, 16/11/90)

It is arguable that the original intent of "Gladio" in its broadest sense, namely an anti-communist stay behind guerilla force, with access to secret arms caches, designed to fight a partisan war against Red Army invasion, was soon coopted by the intelligence and power elites (eg SMOM and Propaganda Due). In other words, Gladio was transformed into something more valuable to the geopoliticians who sponsored it.

The real halllmarks of Gladio are the Strategy of Tension, and the perpetrating of false flag atrorcities, such as the Bologna railway station bombing, by Gladio cells (in this case, the neo-fascist Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari) with the intention of blaming the atrocity on the left (in this case, falsely attributing it to the Red Brigades).

Such a false flag attack designed to create political instability and fear amongst the citizenry is the real hallmark of Gladio.

Returning to the historical origins of the operation, I suspect that C20th Europe's geography and history, and division of the continent by an Iron Curtain, made the philosophical case for "an anti-communist stay behind guerilla force with access to secret arms caches" easy to argue and justify in intelligence circles. However, no such case could be made in the US - unless the argument was that the Red Army would invade Alaska.....

So, I doubt that there is an American "Gladio" in the sense of a "stay behind anti-communist guerilla" per se.

But I strongly suspect that there are intelligence-created cells of "soldiers", with access to arms and bombs, who operate under the "Gladio" philosophy of using false flag attacks as part of a geopolitical Strategy of Tension.

Of course any such cells would be known to a very few, and be (im)plausibly deniable.


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - Peter Lemkin - 04-01-2011

Jan Klimkowski Wrote:David et al - an important question.

I view and use "Gladio" in a very smilar way to that in which I use "MK-ULTRA".

MK-ULTRA is the visible, limited hangout, tip of decades of deep black research into, loosely, controlling human behaviour. When I say MK-ULTRA, I usually mean to reference all such covert "mind" research.

Similarly, it can be argued that Gladio technically only refers to the Italian portion of the "anti-communist stay behind armies", although it is commonly used to refer to the entire European stay behind operation.



It is arguable that the original intent of "Gladio" in its broadest sense, namely an anti-communist stay behind guerilla force, with access to secret arms caches, designed to fight a partisan war against Red Army invasion, was soon coopted by the intelligence and power elites (eg SMOM and Propaganda Due). In other words, Gladio was transformed into something more valuable to the geopoliticians who sponsored it.

The real halllmarks of Gladio are the Strategy of Tension, and the perpetrating of false flag atrorcities, such as the Bologna railway station bombing, by Gladio cells (in this case, the neo-fascist Nuclei Armati Rivoluzionari) with the intention of blaming the atrocity on the left (in this case, falsely attributing it to the Red Brigades).

Such a false flag attack designed to create political instability and fear amongst the citizenry is the real hallmark of Gladio.

Returning to the historical origins of the operation, I suspect that C20th Europe's geography and history, and division of the continent by an Iron Curtain, made the philosophical case for "an anti-communist stay behind guerilla force with access to secret arms caches" easy to argue and justify in intelligence circles. However, no such case could be made in the US - unless the argument was that the Red Army would invade Alaska.....

So, I doubt that there is an American "Gladio" in the sense of a "stay behind anti-communist guerilla" per se.

But I strongly suspect that there are intelligence-created cells of "soldiers", with access to arms and bombs, who operate under the "Gladio" philosophy of using false flag attacks as part of a geopolitical Strategy of Tension.

Of course any such cells would be known to a very few, and be (im)plausibly deniable.

I think you captured the essence of the answer, Jan. As the 'Heimat' the principle and more 'public' [if secret] reasons [to fight the Ruskies if they invaded] was not needed, as 1] every red-blooded American is armed to the teeth [and other organs] and would fight to the last; but more importantly 2] we had the nukes and even 'doomsday' nukes - which even if all the government was decapitated or incapacitated and even if all communications by launch code et al were disabled, a launch both to destroy the USSR, other countries, EVEN THE HOMELAND to destroy the 'enemy' was designed into the system - and still is! Pullhair

So, only the ancillary functions of 'Gladio' in the generic and general sense were necessary to be set-up in the ol US of A. And they are those groups who pull off false-flag provocations and set-up would be REAL patriots, etc. Some are in small cells after training, sleeping and awaiting activation; some are in big institutions, such as the FBI, HS, FEMA; some are in quasi-temporary off the shelf ops, like Iran-Contra [and SO Many Others] and Ollie's REX-84 plans...now renamed and under [I'd guess] HS and/or FEMA. And others like that. I'll bet we have more of these per person than any nation on Earth. :wirlitzer: :jawdrop: Eat your fascist hearts out Europe!


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - David Guyatt - 04-01-2011

Thanks Jan. As we both share an interest in matters symbolic, it always seemed interesting to me that "Gladio" (i.e., "Gladius") was the name of the short Roman era gladiators sword. I think I remember that the sword theme was used elsewhere - in Germany (?) it was called "Schwert", literally meaning sword. But this wasn't universal, as elsewhere in Europe it was named "sheepskin" or "red sheepskin" etc.

I do remember putting in a FOIA request to the Pentagon back in the early mid 1990's for all these names and being issued with a swift "fuck off" notice for my troubles. That was when I figured that the whole stay-behind network was still a very real and dangerous live round.

But prior to dragging my arse to the pub to drown my sorrows for the rebuke, I did notice the peculiarity that the Supreme Headquarters Allied Forces Europe (SHAPE), has an interesting logo that seemed to me to be relevant:

[Image: 175px-Shape_big.png]

I do believe those are probably two Gladius' standing tall?


Why does the FBI Orchestrate Fake Terror Plots? - Jan Klimkowski - 04-01-2011

David - the SHAPE symbolism is certainly intriguing.

See also the claim that NATO REQUIRED any country joining the organization to have set up the mechanisms for "clandestine citizen cadres" or, perhaps more accurately, Gladio stay behind cells with access to arms.

Quote:THE SECRET NATO COVER

The North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) provided international cover for Washington's postwar operations in Italy. A secret clause in the initial NATO agreement in 1949 required that before a nation could join, it must have already established a national security authority to fight communism through clandestine citizen cadres. This ``Stay Behind'' clause grew out of a secret committee set up at U.S. insistence in the Atlantic Pact, the forerunner of NATO. Each NATO member was also required to send delegates to semiannual meetings on the subject. 4

U.S. authority for such moves flowed in a steady stream of presidential directives transmitted through the National Security Council (NSC). In December 1950, the council gave the armed forces carte blanche to use ``appropriate'' military force even if the communists merely ``gain participation'' in government by legal means or ``threaten to achieve control...or the government ceases to evidence a determination to oppose communist internal or external threats.'' 5

The piece is from a February 1996 Covert Action article. Unfortunately, the footnotes are missing.

http://www.mega.nu/ampp/gladio.html