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Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Keith Millea - 14-12-2008

Artificial sweeteners ARE poisonous.If you just ask Donald(genocide)Rumsfield....No wait,he won't tell you.......

Quote:Aspartame Use Part of Planetary Biomedical Genocide
The fact that tons of aspartame is pumped into the world population each year, knowingly and deliberately, especially with the historical and documented record of fraud and misrepresentation, constitutes a conspiracy of the highest order, as well as criminal negligence. The rewards of continued use are increased profits for the medical and pharmaceutical industries and chemical companies who produce aspartame and treat people suffering from the effect of it. Aspartame is the only biochemical warfare product on grocery shelves. And, the band plays on ....




http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/fraud.htm


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Magda Hassan - 15-12-2008

Thanks for this Keith. Dr Mercola's website is a good source for quality health information. It shows that Rumsfeld has a long association with disreputable and unethical business practices and no regard for human life anywhere. Unfortunately it also shows business as usual in the corporate world. It also shows how some parts of government, in this case Defense, and other parts, FDA, can be working on similar or same issues but for different goals. Scientific results are frequently manipulated to conform with the business interests of the chemical/pharmaceutical/medical entity conducting the research. That there is no standard independent testing and verification of this process shows how intertwined business and government agencies are and who they really work for.


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - David Guyatt - 15-12-2008

Wasn't it one of Rummy's companies that benefited enormously from the massive (but fake it seems) bird flu scare a year or so ago?


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Magda Hassan - 15-12-2008

Yes, it was David. It made the Tamiflu vaccination for the virus. It is not a particularly effective vaccine but it was the only one around and it was bought in huge quantities by the US and other governments as a 'precautionary' measure. I had some documents on this on an old computer which I can't get to right now but I will look later for them.


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Keith Millea - 16-12-2008

Stevia

A natural sweetener.Used by many countries,especially Japan.Grow your own........

http://www.vegsource.com/davis/sweeteners.htm

Keith


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Myra Bronstein - 25-12-2008

Keith Millea Wrote:Artificial sweeteners ARE poisonous.If you just ask Donald(genocide)Rumsfield....No wait,he won't tell you.......

http://www.mercola.com/article/aspartame/fraud.htm

Oh yeah, my head knew early on that NutraSweet was toxic. It caused killer migraines. Obviously I stopped using it.

I'm glad you posted on this topic Keith. Naomi Klein talks about it on pg 289 of The Shock Doctrine (Chapter title--Cheney an Rumsfeld: Proto-Disaster Capitalists):

"Rumsfeld survived being passed over as Reagan's runnning mate by throwing himself into his burgeoning business career. As CEO of the international drug and chemical company Searle Pharmaceuticals, he used his political connections to secure the contraversial and extraordinarily lucrative Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval for aspartame (marketed as NutraSweet); and when Rumsfeld brokered the deal to sell Searle to Monsanto he personally earned an estimated $12 million."


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Myra Bronstein - 25-12-2008

Magda Hassan Wrote:Yes, it was David. It made the Tamiflu vaccination for the virus. It is not a particularly effective vaccine but it was the only one around and it was bought in huge quantities by the US and other governments as a 'precautionary' measure. I had some documents on this on an old computer which I can't get to right now but I will look later for them.

Again Naomi Klein talks about Rumsfeld and Tamiflu in the same chapter I cited above, page 290:

"It was in 1997, when Rumsfeld was named chairman of the board of the biotech firm Gilead Sciences, that he would firmly establish himself as a proto disaster capitalist. The company had registered the patent for Tamiflu, a treatment for many kinds of influenza and the preferred drug for avian flue. [Footnote about dangers of taking Tamiflu.] If there was ever an outbreak of the highly contagious virus (or the threat of one), governments would be forced to buy billions of dollars' worth of the treatment from Gilead Sciences...."


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Keith Millea - 25-12-2008

Coca Cola and Cargill Team up.:eek:

http://www.rense.com/general84/truvia.htm

What's Really In It?
Dr. Betty Martini,D.Hum
12-17-8
An email to Betty... I am concerned about Truvia. Truvia claims it is an extract of the stevia plant. However I am concerned that big pharma has added something so they can patent it. What is known about the process of getting Truvia from stevia? I know that Coca Cola is starting to use it even though FDA has not approved it. I don't trust any of the big outfits including the FDA. If you have any information on this could you please send it to me. Thank you. Dallas Van Wagoner, MD (retired) Dear Doctor Van Wagoner, I am just as concerned about it as you are. The Stevia leaf itself is safe. Somewhere I have all the studies. The FDA based their "not safe" on a study that was in reality an experiment in animal cruelty by a student, and funded by a chemical lab in Brazil that no one could find. If you get real stevia leaf, green, its safe and healthful. However, many times additives are added to it, like in Brazil they add the poisonous excitoneurotoxic carcinogenic aspartame to it. Coke said they heard the people and they were going to use Stevia. However, I told everyone who mentioned it, they would not replace poisonous aspartame in Diet Coke, but rather they would just make a drink that had it to gain a part of the population who knew Diet Coke was deadly. That is what has come to pass. They said they will not replace the Diet Coke. Because its addictive and a cash cow they know addicted people would change to another product that had the poison in it and keep the addiction. Also, the symptoms from aspartame would disappear and they would know it was Diet coke that poisoned them. Earlier reports said they could manipulate the stevia or genetically engineer the product. After I first read those I knew there might be "something" from the stevia plant but it wouldn't be stevia, just some part of the plant to gain the use of part of the population. I believe Truvia should be analyzed by independents to find out what it contains and studies done. It says not approved by the FDA but remember that the FDA will do anything for industry, so expect it. Yes, actual stevia is GRAS but then when someone put it in tea the FDA made them take it out, and said it could only be put in herbal products because its a dietary supplement. Why a dietary supplement couldn't be put in food is absurd. It's okay to put aspartame in food and classified as an additive when its a neurotoxic drug and the medical text, Aspartame Disease: An Ignored Epidemic by H. J. Roberts, M.D., is 1000 pages of diseases, cancer, diabetes, obesity and other horrors. An additive by law has to be inert, but then the FDA doesnn't care about the law. It's okay to put Splenda in food and its a chlorocarbon poison liberating chlorine, and was found on a China site under "insecticides". They moved it over to sweeteners when we exposed it. http://www.wnho.net/splenda_chlorocarbon.htm The FDA is just Big Pharma's Washington Branch Office. They continue to approve poisons and if anyone knows aspartame is poison its the FDA who lies to the public. They are the very ones who tried to have the company indicted for fraud and revoked the petition for approval until Donald Rumsfeld used political chicanery to get it on the market. http://www.soundandfury.tv/pages/rumsfeld.html Also, you are exactly right about the patent. That was the first thing that made me suspicious. You cannot patent a natural product, the green stevia leaf. So they have manipulated and added to it, and who in the world would believe Coke? After all the National Soft Drink Assn (now American Beverage) wrote a 30 page protest on aspartame that was added to the congressional record. They knew it was adulterated and they mentioned what Searle did to fix the studies like not using the right test so it wouldn't pick up the aspartic acid. http://www.mpwhi.com/open_letter_dick_adamson.htm Coke and Pepsi can't hide from the fact they knew the gun was loaded. We boycott the soft drink companies for this reason. Why give them profit when they knew using aspartame would kill. That's the reason they put it in the congressional record, because after protesting they lobbied for NutraSweet with full knowledge. The only thing I can do is agree with everything you said, doctor. Truvia has to be tested with long term studies by independent researchers not industry. It has to be analyzed to know if this is another genetically engineered product like aspartame. Coke and Pepsi can take a good thing, pure Stevia, and make it into something that is not fit to drink. It worries me that if it tastes okay people will use it, and suffer the consequences. Is it going to be addictive to add to their profit? Will they add a small amount of aspartame to it and not label it? Every question has to be answered. I happen to live in Atlanta, home of Coca Cola. I grew up on it. It was an entirely different product and they couldn't leave well enough alone with citric acid but had to change to phosphoric acid which is cheaper. That's why many people use Coke to clean their toilets, that's what toilet bowl cleaner is, phosphoric acid. Think what it can do to the body. People ask me all the time why aspartame is still on the market with the background that is provable from the public records. I tell them for the same reason as tobacco, addiction, profit and greed. Think of the millions of babies who are murdered in their mother's womb because aspartame is an abortifacient and teratogen, with not the decency of a warning for pregnant women. One woman drank Diet Coke through 3 pregnancies and had 3 autistic children. Do you think Coke cares? They knew it from the beginning. I don't believe Coke and Pepsi deserve one cent of profit for participating in the mass poisoning of consumers in the US and 100 countries of the world. I think everyone should boycott them. If they would use aspartame knowing the gun was loaded, why would anyone trust Coke with Truvia. When the FDA embargoed stevia years ago to please the manufacturers of aspartame, I fought for it - fought for what is healthy, the pure green stevia leaf. I would no more put Truvia in my mouth than I would aspartame. Coke and Pepsi blew it putting profit and greed before health with aspartame. How does the saying go, "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice, shame on me." So pure stevia with no additives is fine. Just Like Sugar is safe (www.justlikesugarinc.com) made with only chicory, orange peel, Vitamin C and Calcium. Before neurosurgeon Russell Blaylock, M.D., (www.russellblaylockmd.com) would endorse it he insisted on it being analyzed. Then he wrote in his newsletter, The Blaylock Wellness Report, "Finally a safe sweetener". Until Truvia is analyzed my personal opinion is continue to boycott Coke and Pepsi who have participated in the mass poisoning of the world with full knowledge. If you just have to have a cola regardless, go to Whole Foods. They make their own with citric acid and sugar. I do believe their aluminum cans should be changed to glass. I recommend using healthy drinks instead and Whole Foods has an aisle full of them. They ban aspartame and Splenda. Also, notice that Pepsi has teamed up with a subsidiary of Merisant. Who is Merisant? A manufacturer of aspartame!!! The public should not be fooled again. They should demand the truth and absolutely, emphatic independent studies from unbiased researchers. All my best, Betty www.mpwhi.com,www.dorway.com and www.wnho.net Aspartame Toxicity Center, www.holisticmed.com/aspartame Coca-Cola Could Launch Stevia
Drink Ahead Of FDA GRASBy Sarah Hills12-15-8 Coca-Cola is expected to launch a drink sweetened with stevia in the US this week, according to reports, but there is still no word from the FDA on GRAS status. Coca-Cola plans to market three flavors of a juice drink in its Odwalla line that contain the sweetener, sources told The Wall Street Journal. And if it does, the move would intensify competition with rival drinks maker PepsiCo, which has already said it is poised to launch two drinks sweetened with stevia in the US - SoBe Life Water and Trop 50. These are ready to launch as soon as it is given the green light by the Food and Drug Administraion (FDA). Scott Williamson, spokesman for Coca-Cola North America, declined to comment on whether it was planning to launch a stevia sweetened drink in the US this week, or if it was prepared to do so without FDA GRAS. However he told FoodNavigator-USA.com: "As we have said, we plan to continue to innovate with multiple products using the new sweetener." Coca-Cola has teamed up with Cargill to develop their own stevia-derived product called Truvia, while PepsiCo has partnered with the Whole Earth Sweetener Company (a subsidiary of Merisant) to produce its own brand called PureVia. Merisant Company and Cargill have both notified the FDA that rebiana (the common name for high-purity Rebaudioside A from stevia) should have FDA GRAS (generally recognized as safe) for use in food and beverages. The outcome is pending and although some in the industry have said they expect an FDA decision on rebiana soon, an FDA spokesman recently told FoodNavigator-USA.com that there is no specific date for completion of its review. This is because the GRAS notification program is a voluntary program and FDA does not have a legally mandated timeframe for completing the review of a GRAS notice. Potential market Meanwhile stevia is already permitted for sale in the US as a dietary supplement on the basis of its low glycemic index. Rebiana, or Reb-A, is the sweetest, purest part of the stevia leaf and reportedly about 200 times as sweet as sugar. The US market for stevia is estimated to be worth about $60m, a figure analysts say could triple with FDA GRAS.

Just Grow it......
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stevia

Keith


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Keith Millea - 24-09-2009

This is a great documentary!You will be checking lables after you watch it.I just found that Aspartame is an ingredient in one of my meds.Insidious indeed!!!!!!!:banghead:

http://freedocumentaries.org/film.php?id=244

"Sweet Misery"

This film explores the important issue of aspartame toxicity in a documentary that implores viewers to take consider the potentially damaging effects of the common food additive. A sugar substitute that is found in NutraSweet and many common diet drinks, aspartame is alleged to cause toxic reactions in the human body that can result in a wide variety of physical and mental ailments. In stating their claim that aspartame toxicity is perhaps the most insidious representation of corporate negligence since tobacco, Brackett and Waldron offer compelling evidence about a potentially deadly phenomenon. [Image: transparente.gif]


Aspartame-Thanks Rummy - Magda Hassan - 09-02-2012

Short of completely avoiding processed food, growing your own, and getting to know your local farmer, there is very little you can realistically do to avoid ingesting Neotame, the new and improved version of the neurotoxic artificial sweetner Aspartame. Get it - Neo - new Aspartame? Not even buying certified organic is a reliable way to avoid it, not only in beverages but in all the food you eat, because no labeling of its presence is required.

Aspartame can step aside. There's a new sweetener in town and it isn't saddled with the inconvenience of having to be listed on labels, so it can be sneaked into any prepared food, even USDA so-called Organic. So sayeth the FDA. Neotame is a Monsanto-created chemical similar to Aspartame, including its neurotoxic properties.
If you thought that you could find it on a food label, or that it would have to be listed on food that is certified organic, you would be wrong. The labeling requirements that applied to Aspartame were dropped for Neotame.
The food labeling requirements required for aspartame have now been dropped for Neotame, and no one is clearwhy this was allowed to happen.
As Monsanto's patent for Aspartame was nearing expiration, they developed the strategy of adding a hazardous chemical to to it, making it sweeter, and more toxic, and calling it Neotame. There was no trouble in getting FDA approval, which then also waived labeling requirements.
Monsanto developed Neotame as their Aspartame patent was expiring, and had no trouble in gaining FDA approval in 2002. They added 3-dimethylbutyl, a chemical listed as hazardous by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), to Aspartame, making it both sweeter and more toxic.Both Aspartame and Neotame contain substances that are metabolized into formaldehyde, a highly toxic poison, and an excitotoxic amino acid that agitates, thereby damaging, nerves.
Neotame has similar structure to aspartame -- except that, from it's structure, appears to be even more toxic than aspartame. This potential increase in toxicity will make up for the fact that less will be used in diet drinks. Like aspartame, some of the concerns include gradual neurotoxic and immunotoxic damage from the combination of the formaldehyde metabolite (which is toxic at extremely low doses) and the excitotoxic amino acid.Even Monsanto's own pre-approval studies of neotame revealed adverse reactions. Unfortunately, Monsanto only conducted a few one-day studies in humans rather than encouraging independent researchers to obtain NIH funding to conduct long-term human studies on the effects of neotame.
Neotame can even be ingested second-hand because it is used in animal feed. A product calledSweetos, containing Neotame, is fed to cattle in place of molasses, to cover up the smell of rancid food they are fed. This will never make it into any label. Why would the FDA loosen the labeling requirements for this product?
It looks like the FDA's loosening of labeling rules for Neotame is part of a large-scale effort to make it a near-ubiquitous artificial sweetener, to be found on the tabletop, in all prepared foodseven organicsand even in the meats consumed.
Perhaps it has to do with the fact that Michael Taylor was appointed in 2009 by President Obama to the newly created post of Senior Adviser to the Commissioner of the FDA. Michael Taylor, noted 'food safety expert' has long history of boucing between jobs as lawyer to Monsanto, working for Monsanto, being a lobbyist for Monsanto, a position at the USDA, and going back and forth from there to the FDA.There was much objection to his appointment when it was originally made, and it only took two years for a negative predicted result to happen. This is a classic example of the revolving door between lobbyists for and from large business, and their appointments to government agencies where they rule favorably for the corporations. This was supposed to stop in President Obama's administration.
There is a petition at Signon.Org objecting to the appointment of Michael Taylor to the FDA and calling on President Obama to cut ties with Monsanto.

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