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Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - David Guyatt - 05-02-2011 Translated from western pol speak the below simply means slow the election down to give us time to fix it - for "freedom and democracy". http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/02/05/us-egypt-europe-idUSTRE71416L20110205 Quote:Europe to Egypt: After Mubarak, don't rush election Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Jan Klimkowski - 05-02-2011 Quote:"I think there's a naivety that existed among politicians in the past that somehow if you introduce democracy like that you solve a country's problems," said Cameron. "I don't believe that for one second. But what I do believe is that we should build a partnership for an open society." Ever since British PM Cameron and Chancellor Osborne returned from the Davos summit, they've been relentlessly ON MESSAGE. A very neocon, War On Terror Lives, message. Cameron has just delivered a speech with the following themes: Quote:David Cameron tells Muslim Britain: stop tolerating extremists http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/05/david-cameron-muslim-extremism Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Peter Lemkin - 05-02-2011 He probably misspoke or was misquoted. I don't think he meant shunned; more likely gunned. Being 'shunned' by the government is hardly such a penalty...but being gunned by them.....well.....that's a different matter entirely. Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Keith Millea - 05-02-2011 This is an extremely good video compilation.......Check it out. Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Magda Hassan - 06-02-2011 Magda Hassan Wrote:I've lost the link but will try to find it. The Deputy Director of the Egyptian State TV quit saying it was a propaganda machine iirc.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh-5oRtjHkM Al Jazeera interview with Shahira Amin Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Peter Lemkin - 06-02-2011 Magda Hassan Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:I've lost the link but will try to find it. The Deputy Director of the Egyptian State TV quit saying it was a propaganda machine iirc.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qh-5oRtjHkM Al Jazeera interview with Shahira Amin Well, good for her. Yes, I heard the same - and a short interview with her - brave while the Regime is still in power! However, it is not surprising that 'State' TV only wants State OK TV.....why it is even so in the 'ol USA....they only make it seem like there is debate in the USA....watch the news about the war or documentaries on 911 or JFK, it is all Corporate approved [i.e. State Approved]. Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Ed Jewett - 06-02-2011 Frank Wisner, Son of Nazi-Recruiting CIA Official, Sent to Prod Mubarak 5th February 2011 Also see: "The CIA, an American Pinay Circle & the Muslim Brotherhood" Frank Wisner, Sr. Frank Wisner, the Diplomat Sent to Prod Mubarak" … Here in Washington, news that Mr. Obama had tapped Mr. Wisner revived memories for some of an even more colorful Frank Wisner: Mr. Wisner's father, a freewheeling if mentally unstable cold-war-era spy who helped found the modern C.I.A. and ran its clandestine service. The elder Mr. Wisner's clandestine exploits were said to have included masterminding an anticommunist coup in Guatemala in 1954. He suffered a mental breakdown after the Soviets crushed the Hungarian revolution in 1956 and never quite recovered; in 1965, he committed suicide. … " By SHERYL GAY STOLBERG
Frank Wisner, Jr.New York Times | February 2, 2011 WASHINGTON Once a month or so, a coterie of aging diplomats convenes at the elegant Metropolitan Club of New York. Over lunch in a glass-enclosed restaurant overlooking Central Park, they engage in verbal thrust and parry over the foreign policy issues of the day. The man who sits at the head of the table is Frank G. Wisner, a bald, barrel-chested, martini-drinking (he gave up cigars, friends say) 72-year-old retired ambassador and businessman. Like his lunch mates, he is of a distinct class in Washington: a corps of foreign policy realists who came of age in an era when American power reigned supreme, and who have the heft and experience to troubleshoot the crises of the moment. When the United States and Iran headed into a stalemate on nuclear issues during the administration of George W. Bush who had branded Iran part of the "axis of evil" Mr. Wisner was among several well-connected former officials pursuing a "track two" process of back-channel communications to find a way out. (The effort fizzled.) When Mr. Bush was contemplating war in Iraq, Mr. Wisner joined with Edward P. Djerejian, another fellow former ambassador, to publicly warn against it. Yet when Mr. Bush needed help bringing Kosovo to independence, his State Department deployed Mr. Wisner as chief negotiator there. (He was successful.) "He's one of the supreme American diplomats of the last 30 to 40 years," said R. Nicholas Burns, who oversaw the Kosovo talks as under secretary of state. This week, Mr. Wisner, whose stints around the globe have included four ambassadorships, one of them to Egypt, was briefly President Obama's man in Cairo, charged with prodding an old friend, President Hosni Mubarak, to make his exit. How much effect he had was unclear. On Wednesday, as Mr. Mubarak resisted Mr. Obama's demand for an immediate peaceful transition and each side dug in its heels, Mr. Wisner left the country. "He wasn't sent there to flatter him and hold his hand," said Leslie H. Gelb, the longtime diplomat and journalist who co-founded the lunch club with Mr. Wisner. "He was sent there because he has a very close relationship with Mubarak, and because that's the kind of person who can best deliver some hard messages." An imposing presence with a resonant voice whose last posting was as ambassador to India, Mr. Wisner has spent the years since his retirement in 1997 operating at the nexus of diplomacy and business. For more than a decade, he was vice chairman of the insurance giant A.I.G.; he left in 2009, just as the company was getting bailed out by American taxpayers, and joined the lobbying firm Patton Boggs. He is well known in foreign policy circles, but not beyond them. Unlike the late Richard C. Holbrooke the Obama administration envoy to Pakistan and Afghanistan, who was one of Mr. Wisner's best friends he does not crave the limelight. But he is respected enough that his name is being bandied about as a possible Holbrooke replacement, a job friends say he would be unlikely to take. "He's not a flashy fellow in the sense that Dick was," said Morton I. Abramowitz, another longtime diplomat who knows Mr. Wisner well. "But he's very solid, he studies the issues, he's a very serious guy who works very quietly, very effectively and knows how to deal with people." Mr. Gelb put it this way: "Dick saw being a public figure as part of the power he needed to do what he wanted. Frank was much more of an inside man." But as did Mr. Holbrooke, Mr. Wisner relished the frisson of the diplomat's life. He has been married twice to upper-crust French women; Mr. Wisner's current wife, from whom he is separated, was once married to Pal Sarkozy, the father of President Nicolas Sarkozy of France. He is accustomed to being dropped into chaotic situations. During the administration of the first President Bush, Mr. Wisner was sent to the Philippines to help stabilize the administration of President Corazon Aquino. She had survived several coup attempts by rogue elements of the Philippine military, and Mr. Wisner's office in the United States Embassy was part of the old American governor-general's suite. Cigar in hand, he loved to take visitors out on the giant veranda overlooking the bay and describe the sweep of American interactions with the Philippines, back to the days of the Spanish-American War. Here in Washington, news that Mr. Obama had tapped Mr. Wisner revived memories for some of an even more colorful Frank Wisner: Mr. Wisner's father, a freewheeling if mentally unstable cold-war-era spy who helped found the modern C.I.A. and ran its clandestine service. The elder Mr. Wisner's clandestine exploits were said to have included masterminding an anticommunist coup in Guatemala in 1954. He suffered a mental breakdown after the Soviets crushed the Hungarian revolution in 1956 and never quite recovered; in 1965, he committed suicide. His son chose a more conventional path, the Foreign Service. He graduated from Princeton University in 1961, learned Arabic and pursued a career that took him from Algeria to Vietnam at the height of the war there, to Zambia, Egypt, the Philippines and India, with tours every so often back in Washington. "I told Frank, The title of ambassador does not suffice for you, Frank. We need to call you Pasha,' " said Mr. Djerejian, using the honorary title. "He reveled in the role of being an ambassador. He loved the substance and the trappings of the role, and was very enthusiastic about representing the United States abroad." At the monthly lunch meetings, Mr. Wisner plays the role of enforcer when the discussion gets too rowdy. The high-powered attendees include J. Stapleton Roy, an East Asia specialist and three-time ambassador, and Mr. Holbrooke before his death. Mr. Gelb says they met for a time at an Albanian restaurant, which everyone liked, until Mr. Wisner insisted they move to the Metropolitan Club. Mr. Gelb decided it was a waste of time to negotiate. "A Zambian minister once told me it was always easier to agree with Frank than to let the meeting go on for four days," he said. "He has that kind of persistence." Mark Landler and David E. Sanger contributed reporting. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/world/middleeast/03wisner.html?_r=1&partner=rss&emc=rss&pagewanted=print http://www.antifascistencyclopedia.com/allposts/frank-wisner-son-of-nazi-recruiting-cia-official-sent-to-prod-mubarak Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Paul Rigby - 06-02-2011 Peter Lemkin Wrote:can't we bring the same collapse to the big ''western'" nations...it would do more good for the... ...denizens of Wall Street: Quote:Egypt's Social Crisis: Financial Bonanza for Wall Street Investors and Speculators: Hidden Agenda behind Mubarak's Decision Not to Resign? The latter group is, of course, the primary source of Obama campaign money. Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - David Guyatt - 06-02-2011 Hence the strategy of delay. Thousands March in Egyptian Capital Calling for President’s Ouster - Jan Klimkowski - 06-02-2011 See also the material here, from posts #20 onwards in particular, about international finanicial looting of Tunisia during and after the fall of her government. |