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Grassy knoll=diversion - Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011
Seamus Coogan Wrote:Zach Robertson Wrote:Thanks for the photos Stan.
Here are a couple maps of the plaza. The first is from Farewell America and the second is from The Second Plot.
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I've always been interested in the Dal Tex building and most people might agree that that is a good spot for a shooter. I'm just not sure where a sniper team would be located or their movements, and how they would get in the building, as there was a lot of security. Larry Hancock writes about the Dal Tex in his 2010 update to SWHT. Anybody have any ideas?
Zach
Hey whats not to say the security were the gunmen or aiding them? Have a look in Bob Grodens the Killing of a President for potential locations there were some nice pics in Josiah Thompsons book as well if I can recall.
nice maps, here are a couple from research done on the dal tex in the past, fwtaw..b
Grassy knoll=diversion - Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Uh-huh.
And it also could be as simple as keeping uncertainty alive.
Yup! They do do that, don't they. For example, on the shot from the fence/knll area - while overall they from the beginning chose to discredit all that evidence/witnesses, as it has become more emplaced into mainstream discussion/acceptance of what actually happened, TPTB have tried to cloud the issue/facts by inventing [IMHO] additional fence/knoll shooters - to try to discredit and dilute the real ones [and playing both sides of the fence, literally and figuratively]...as Charles calls it "keeping uncertainty alive". TPTB do NOT, repeat NOT, want any conclusion nor certainty on what happened that day - let along why. They continue to move the mirrors and blow more smoke, as well as try to discredit, thwart and on a few occasions killed those who would/could speak the truth, in some form.hutup:
Overall, in the society at large, they have created great doubt, but have not stopped the research community, nor determined and open-minded non-researchers from approaching the truth of what happened. The EXACT truth may well have been so buried with disinformation/destruction of evidence and witnesses to ever be fully reconstructed. I feel, however, we can and have gotten a more-than-sufficient 85-95% clear view, today.
''For example, on the shot from the fence/knll area - while overall they from the beginning chose to discredit all that evidence/witnesses, as it has become more emplaced into mainstream discussion/acceptance of what actually happened,''
Peter, if memory serves......lol......at first within the research i believe it was mark lane ? that pointed to the shot from the sewer and fence area, then when lifton's book came out, it shifted the sewer shot was dropped and the interest went just to the behind the fence area, if grey cells are working, you may recall if...thanks take care b..
Grassy knoll=diversion - Seamus Coogan - 27-05-2011
They're precisely the ones I was thinking of Bernice and i forgot the WC ones!
Grassy knoll=diversion - Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011
[quote=Zach Robertson]Seamus and Gordon:
Great points. I would like to see photos from the south knoll / overpass area if any available online, or that could be uploaded here. I may have missed them when I was looking for something else.
On another note, here is the gif I think Bernice had. Hopefully it works...
Zach
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Zach here are some from the south overpass, most from research studies done with doug weldon, who imo, has the best take, on such..i will look into the folders for dougs view.the third one from cancellare, is from within Tosh's area ...b..
Grassy knoll=diversion - Bernice Moore - 27-05-2011
zach here are a few more re the south side, i still have not found doug's, siteing from there, i shall.....b
Grassy knoll=diversion - Kyle Burnett - 27-05-2011
In regard to the claims that a sniper rifle won't emit any notable smoke, a guy I know from another forum posted this example to the contrary from the 1966 University of Texas Tower shooting:
Grassy knoll=diversion - Phil Dragoo - 27-05-2011
Doug Weldon uses his camera to demonstrate his theory of a South sewer shot through the windshield into Kennedy's throat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhTxz4G0lyk
Grassy knoll=diversion - Seamus Coogan - 27-05-2011
Phil Dragoo Wrote:Doug Weldon uses his camera to demonstrate his theory of a South sewer shot through the windshield into Kennedy's throat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhTxz4G0lyk
I'm a bit more traditional and I'll go with the more 'Grodenesque' line but yeah it's interesting stuff! It would have been a lucky shot from there though. Through the windscreen then his throat..... okay that's missing Kellerman the Secret Service agent, Connally (whom was lucky not to get it in the head and Kennedy) there is of course the notion of there not being an exit for the throat wound. To much speculation in it for me.
But cheers Phil Weldon is a good speaker I must say though.
Grassy knoll=diversion - Zach Robertson - 27-05-2011
Bernice,
I am overwhelmed by all the images! Thank you --- also those gifs are great; I've never seen those before.
Here are a couple other pictures: The first map is from the Second Plot, the last map is from Not in Your Lifetime. Two of the others are from the Lee Forman collection at: http://www.jfkassassinationgallery.com/
Zach
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Grassy knoll=diversion - Seamus Coogan - 28-05-2011
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Awesome stuff Bernice excellent!