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New Book On Area 51 - Bernice Moore - 25-07-2011 'Area 51' book stretches truth, ex-workers say.... http://www.lvrj.com/news/-area-51-book-stretches-truth-ex-workers-say-126077963.html New Book On Area 51 - Jan Klimkowski - 25-07-2011 Here's an excerpt from the review in Bernice's post: Quote:Three of Area 51's former CIA contractors -- T.D. Barnes, Roger Anderson and Harry Martin -- discussed their concerns about the book by Annie Jacobsen with the Las Vegas Review-Journal to "set the record straight." My own judgement remains that Jacobsen's book is a classic limited hangout with elements deliberately added to undermine the veracity even of those parts which are true. The "Soviet child aviators" story, complete with a dash of Mengele, is utter nonsense. However, it conveniently distracts attention away from the likely real nature of some of the research undertaken at Groom Lake: namely investigation of Nazi Schwarze Sonne technology. New Book On Area 51 - Charles Drago - 25-07-2011 FWIW, I remain steadfastly in both camps: human technology and VERY high strangeness. New Book On Area 51 - Gary Severson - 25-07-2011 This from Oxford Ph.D Joseph Farrell in his book "Black Sun". 316
In this respect, it is perhaps significant that some contemporary observers of the American space program and its odd thirty-year long "holding pattern" and tapestry of inconsistencies, lies, and obfuscations have long suspected that there are indeed two space programs inside the US government, the "public NASA one, and a quasi-independent one based deep within covert and black projects. In 1970, a curious document based upon the Garrison Investigation's voluminous files, called the "Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal", otherwise known as the Torbitt document, was circulated, alleging a connection between this secret space program and the murder of President John F. Kennedy. Radio talk show conspiracy theorist Mae Brussel concurred: the secret space program was being run inside and quasi-independently of the public NASA program, and both were being coordinated by Wernher von Braun. In this connection it is perhaps informative that the last document in the Cantwheel Majestic-12 documents is a Top Secert memo from November 12, 1963, - a scant ten days before the assassination - from President Kennedy to the Director of Counter Intelligence of the Central Intelligence Agency: SUBJECT: Classification review of all UFO intelligence files affecting National Security. As I had discussed with you previously, I have initiated ???????? and have instructed James Webb to develop a program with the Soviet Union in joint space and lunar exploration. It would be very helpful if you would have the high threat cases reviewed with the purpose of identification of bona fide as opposed to classified CIA and USAF sources. It is important that we make a clear distinction between the knowns and the unknowns in the event the Soviets try to mistake our extended cooperation as a cover for intelligence gathering of their defence (sic) and space programs. When this data has been sorted out, I would like you to arrange a program of data sharing with NASA where Unknowns are a factor. This will help NASA mission directors in their defensive responsibilties. I would like an interim report on the data review no later than February 1, 1964. /s/ John F. Kennedy.[size=12]68 [/SIZE] New Book On Area 51 - Peter Lemkin - 25-07-2011 The Torbitt Doc and the 'research' of Farrell are pretty shaky ground, IMO :what: Both have shreds of truth and gobs of nothingness. One of the standard methods of assassinating the JFK Assassination research has long been via 'ufo' type disinfo...and it comes from the TOP. Please, spare us. :mexican: New Book On Area 51 - Jan Klimkowski - 25-07-2011 Peter Lemkin Wrote:The Torbitt Doc and the 'research' of Farrell are pretty shaky ground, IMO :what: Both have shreds of truth and gobs of nothingness. One of the standard methods of assassinating the JFK Assassination research has long been via 'ufo' type disinfo...and it comes from the TOP. Please, spare us. :mexican: Peter - with respect, Yes and No. Seamus Coogan and I have been several rounds over the NOMENCLATURE OF AN ASSASSINATION CABAL. Farrell's LBJ book is also a hotchpotch, commissioned to prove a thesis that Farrell doesn't seem to believe in. However, Nazi Schwarze Sonne mysticism, and links between Permindex, Clay Shaw and Gladio are real phenomena. My own view, as stated above, is that products of Schwarze Sonne mysticism may very well have been investigated by Paperclip scientists at bases including the one now known as "Area 51". New Book On Area 51 - Gary Severson - 26-07-2011 Peter Lemkin Wrote:The Torbitt Doc and the 'research' of Farrell are pretty shaky ground, IMO :what: Both have shreds of truth and gobs of nothingness. One of the standard methods of assassinating the JFK Assassination research has long been via 'ufo' type disinfo...and it comes from the TOP. Please, spare us. :mexican: The title of the post was Mae Brussell not UFOs. Why not indict her too as shaky? The new book, Area 51, is not about aliens but about Nazi technology New Book On Area 51 - Phil Dragoo - 26-07-2011 Jacobsen puts CIA next to Area 51, and gives it the mission to prevent war. This in itself is a Richter Six fatal paradox. Compare to Robert G. Vinson, Flight from Dallas, arriving Roswell, jostling through arcades crowded with hordes of variegated aliens departing for corners of the galaxy. And the sequentially updated covers for the 1947 Flying Saucer headline, weather balloons, then dummies in flight suits. Area 51 is a good place to make neat toys in secret. The A-tests: one LANL scientist remembered ground-surfing, hiding in test bunkers to scare fellow scientists. One techie describes a new technology to photograph the sky above and project it through the underside skin, presto visual stealth. Soviets with saucer technology in 1947then why didn't they prevail in Korean airspace. Jacobsen's isn't even a good George Noory show. Our former landlord who would come off the hill to grow his chilis ran the 1500-vehicle motor pool for Zia Company the precursor to EG&G. His demise was that of Lee Marvin in Richest Man in Bogota going blind, those little blood vessels in the eyes bursting, but oh no not from radiation. Jacobsen's assignment is to vacuum up the last curiosity about secret projects, comingle them with the ridiculous, and broadcast the mix onto the fertile hillside of the public imagination. Take something from one side of the fence and project it through the other. Nothing to see. |