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Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Carsten Wiethoff - 23-09-2011 For those who prefer to read the original text instead of propagandized mainstream snippets: http://gadebate.un.org/sites/default/files/gastatements/66/IR_en.pdf I quote some parts from it: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Some comments from myself: - Questioning the Holocaust is not going to make you any friends in the west - Associating the Holocaust with 9/11 is not helpful - Ahmadinejad seems to accept Osama bin Laden as the "main perpetrator" of 9/11 - Demanding compensation for slavery and colonialism is a concept that will never be accepted in the west Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Peter Lemkin - 23-09-2011 I think he'd do much better to remind the world of what the USA and British did to Iran in 1953. There he could really score some points, I think......he's not stupid, but is a bit too dogmatic in his speeches. This one was almost a repeat of an earlier one. As you say, it won't play well, even if it contains a lot of truth...it also contains some [I think] forced connections. Iran has every reason to be en garde from the USA and its intentions - given it past in Iran and the region up until today!.....he should make that history in Iran more clear. There he can ask for understanding and even redress. Sadly, Ian overreacted to the horrors of the USA, IMHO, causing [in turn] the USA to overreact. My housemate at graduate school was from Tehran and I learned much about Iran and Iranians. They are a proud and sophisticated population, highly educated and like all peoples wanting to guide their own destiny. It has been hijacked by the mullahs now [and I think few if given their 'vote' would have it that way inside Iran], but our enmity in the West only strengthens the mullahs and makes it impossible now to break their grip. We caused all this by destabilizing their country long ago....another example of blowback we ignore at our peril. Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Magda Hassan - 23-09-2011 Yeah PR not his strong point. He's not going to bring up 1953 because that was a secular democracy. The one thing more scary than the US is secularism. Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Peter Lemkin - 23-09-2011 Magda Hassan Wrote:Yeah PR not his strong point. I guess you are correct here. Oh well, the USA has secret plans fully developed to bomb and invade Iran....they only await their 'window of opportunity'. WWIII could result; at minimum it would ignite the entire Middle East. I guess the whole world had gone mad and we are at that sad point in history......it is a long way back to sanity....but we have to make the effort and a start. Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Ed Jewett - 23-09-2011 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Magda Hassan Wrote:Yeah PR not his strong point. Navigating The Coming Chaos: A Handbook For Inner Transition [Paperback]http://www.amazon.com/Navigating-Coming-Chaos-Handbook-Transition/dp/1450270875Product DescriptionThe collapse of industrial civilization, well underway since at least 2007, presents humankind with unprecedented and daunting challenges in the area of energy, environment, and economics. Just as the Transition Handbook of 2008, provided specific strategies for addressing these changes logistically, Navigating The Coming Chaos, provides a toolkit of emotional and spiritual preparation for an uncertain future. It offers us an opportunity to step across an evolutionary threshold in order to become a new kind of human being living in conscious self-awareness of our intimate connection with all life in the universe.Deepening the work begun in Sacred Demise, Carolyn Baker has assembled - and life tested - a rich compendium of tools for the inner warrior preparing to meet civilization's collapse with inner strength, purpose, and presence. In times like these that try our souls, embarking on the deep self-reflection invited by this book will be as essential as any practical preparations for the "Long Emergency." Janaia Donaldson, Co-Producer and Host of Peak Moment TV Navigating the Coming Chaos is Carolyn Baker's latest, and most important work. As we face up to the reality of collapse, the difference between those former citizens who cope and those who don't may well be a simple case of who has taken heed of the lessons contained within these priceless pages. Keith Farnish, author of TIME'S UP: AN UNCIVILIZED SOLUTION TO A GLOBAL CRISIS and manager of The Earth Blog Use this book like you would a longtime friend who is willing to listen to you thoroughly but will still ask you the tough questions. It is an invaluable tool for people who are committed to creating a fulfilling life no matter what the future brings. Andre Angelantoni, Founder of Post Peak Living Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Magda Hassan - 29-09-2011 Al-Qaida calls on Ahmadinejad to end 9/11 conspiracy theories
Al-Qaida has sent a message to the Iranian president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, asking him to stop spreading conspiracy theories about the 9/11 attacks. Iranian media on Wednesday reported quotes from what appears to be an article published in the latest issue of the al-Qaida English language magazine, Inspire, which described Ahmadinejad's remarks over the 11 September attacks as "ridiculous". In his UN general assembly speech last week, Ahmadinejad cast doubt over the official version of the 2001 attacks. "The Iranian government has professed on the tongue of its president Ahmadinejad that it does not believe that al-Qaida was behind 9/11 but rather, the US government," the article said, according to Iranian media. "So we may ask the question: why would Iran ascribe to such a ridiculous belief that stands in the face of all logic and evidence?" Ahmadinejad said in New York that the "mysterious September 11 incident" had been used as a pretext to attack Afghanistan and Iraq. He had also previously expressed scepticism at the US version of events. "By using their imperialistic media network which is under the influence of colonialism, they threaten anyone who questions the Holocaust and the September 11 event with sanctions and military actions," said Ahmadinejad. The al-Qaida article insisted it had been behind the attacks and criticised the Iranian president for discrediting the terrorist group. "For them, al-Qaida was a competitor for the hearts and minds of the disenfranchised Muslims around the world," said the article published in the Inspire magazine. "Al-Qaida … succeeded in what Iran couldn't. Therefore it was necessary for the Iranians to discredit 9/11 and what better way to do so? Conspiracy theories." Al-Qaida also accused Iran of hypocrisy over its "anti-Americanism". The article said: "For Iran, anti-Americanism is merely a game of politics. It is anti-America when it suits it and it is a collaborator with the US when it suits it, as we have seen in the shameful assistance Iran gave to the US in its invasion of Afghanistan and in the Shia of Iraq, backed by Iran, bringing the American forces into the country and welcoming them with open arms." During his visit to New York, Ahmadinejad also changed his position on gay people in Iran. He had previously famously said: "We don't have homosexuals [in Iran] like you do in your country. This does not exist in our country." But according to the American news website the Daily Beast, in a meeting with a number of journalists last week, he said: "In Iran, homosexuality is seen as an ugly act … There may be some people who are homosexuals who are in touch with you. But in Iranian society they're ashamed to announce it so they're not known. This is an act against God and his prophets. But we as the government can't go out and stop people." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/sep/28/al-qaida-ahmadinejad-911-conspiracy Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Magda Hassan - 29-09-2011 :lol: [video]http://www.theonion.com/video/911-conspiracy-theories-ridiculous-al-qaeda-says,14222/[/video] Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Carsten Wiethoff - 29-09-2011 That magazine "inspire" with seven issues pulished is available online at http://publicintelligence.net/complete-inspire-al-qaeda-in-the-arabian-peninsula-aqap-magazine/ Let the potential readers be warned that this is something "different" than a usual magazine. Of course I do not endorse any of it. The seventh issue, out of which the text on Iran is quoted, is a special on 9/11. Ahmadinejad's UNO speech 2011 - Danny Jarman - 01-10-2011 Magda Hassan Wrote:Al-Qaida calls on Ahmadinejad to end 9/11 conspiracy theories This is hilarious, isn't it? If anymore proof was needed Al Qaeda are an entity of the USA... |