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Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - David Guyatt - 04-02-2009 If he did the right thing, then why the criticism? Bush would've applauded his Cabinet pick for not paying taxes and would've lauded running double standards. http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20090204/twl-obama-admits-screwing-up-41f21e0.html Obama admits 'screwing up' Wednesday, February 4 08:40 am US President Barack Obama has admitted he "screwed up" after the withdrawal of two key government nominees over unpaid taxes. Skip related content The messy political developments threatened to blunt Mr Obama's effort to take his economic message to the US through a series of TV interviews. Former senator Tom Daschle pulled out as Mr Obama's pick as Health and Human Services secretary, citing a growing chorus of criticism over his failure to fully pay taxes from 2005 through 2007. He has since paid more than $140,000 (£97,200) including interest. Mr Obama admitted making a mistake. He said: "I think I screwed up, and I take responsibility for it, and we're going to make sure we fix it so it doesn't happen again." The President said he wanted to assure the US that under his leadership there would not be "two sets of standards, one for powerful people, and one for ordinary folks who are working everyday and paying their tax." Mr Daschle's departure was a deep blow to the White House because it not only cost Mr Obama his services as a Cabinet secretary but removed him from the second important role he was to play in shepherding the administration's hopes of overhauling the nation's health care system. It came just hours after Nancy Killefer pulled her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government, saying she didn't want her failure to submit payroll taxes for household help to be a distraction for the President. She had faced but subsequently settled a Washington city government tax demand of $946 (£656) on her home. Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Jan Klimkowski - 04-02-2009 Obama is at least making the right noises... Unlike supposed socialist, Gordon Brown [my emphasis]: Quote:Gordon Brown is hoping to secure an international agreement to help clamp down on tax avoiders, it emerged today. http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/feb/04/international-information-tax-avoidance Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Nathaniel Heidenheimer - 05-02-2009 The depressing thing was not the taxes. It was that Tom Daschle was chosen to begin with. As Glen Greenwald said of him, in DC it is known "that there are whores and there are whores and then there' Tom Daschle" His wife was the one that got the 15 Billion airline bailout to the airline -- on 9/12. He had made 5 million in lobbying fees, since leaving the Senate like 4 years ago. The tax scandal was the good part of Tom. What does it say about Obama that he chose Daschle? So far its 1932 and we are getting Bill Clinton again. Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Myra Bronstein - 05-02-2009 Nathaniel Heidenheimer Wrote:The depressing thing was not the taxes. It was that Tom Daschle was chosen to begin with. As Glen Greenwald said of him, in DC it is known "that there are whores and there are whores and then there' Tom Daschle" His wife was the one that got the 15 Billion airline bailout to the airline -- on 9/12. He had made 5 million in lobbying fees, since leaving the Senate like 4 years ago. Egg-xactly. Daschle was chosen to insure continuity. He's the corrupt corporate system personified. Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - David Guyatt - 05-02-2009 Just to underline Brown and Co's complete ball-less complicity in these things (sorry wrong thread for this rant), yesterday saw the spectacle on the Daily Politics show of novelist Frederick Forsythe asking why no sanctions (legal or financial) had been imposed by the government on City bosses who used tax-payer rescue money to reward themselves with massive bonuses. The bonus system in the City has always been fronted as rewards for spectacular performances and profits made during the year. This time, however, it was spectacular losses and incredibly poor performance. So Forsythe argued, why were they awarded? Answer because City boardrooms can award bonus to themselves without care or compunctions. And did. Thereafter it was a pitiful sight to see assembled talking heads, including one government minister waffling on with reasons why the fat cats should not be sanctioned. The view - said the government minister - was that the City has to drive the country out of the looming chaos and the government therefore needs them. Oh okay. Criminal negligence as a legal principle no longer holds it seems. We didn't need them thar City fat cats to make this mess, but they did so out of sheer unadulterated greed, so now we apparently need them to solve it, but will they? And why should they anyway when they get so heavily rewarded for the chaos they already visited on us all. Reward the guilty, punish the innocent and hold this up as the way forward. Nice to see Gordo's high standards in action eh. Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Jan Klimkowski - 05-02-2009 David Guyatt Wrote:Nice to see Gordo's high standards in action eh. The old adage that one should judge a politician not by his words, but by his actions, has never been truer. That said, when Brown banged on year after year about having miraculously altered the economic cycle to ensure there would be "no more Boom and Bust", he was writing his own political epitaph. Just as Tony Blair wrote his ironic epitaph by declaring: Quote:I would never do anything to harm the country or anything improper. I think most people who have dealt with me think I'm a pretty straight sort of guy, and I am And Peter Mandelson's lasting contribution to political thought will be his statement that: Quote:New Labour is intensely relaxed about people becoming filthy rich Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Myra Bronstein - 06-02-2009 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Nice to see Gordo's high standards in action eh. The most reliable red flag I've identified about people is this: whenever they tell me what they're like; they're the opposite. People with integrity demonstrate their integrity with deeds, they don't describe it with words. Which is another way of saying: "The old adage that one should judge a politician not by his words, but by his actions, has never been truer." Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Peter Lemkin - 06-02-2009 These guys woudn't know morality, legality or guts if they were mugged by all three simultaneously. Read this... President Obama’s nominee to head the CIA, Leon Panetta, appeared before the Senate Intelligence Committee Thursday as part of his confirmation hearings. Panetta said he believes waterboarding amounts to torture but discouraged prosecutions against those who carried it out. Leon Panetta: “I’ve expressed the opinion that I believe that waterboarding is torture and that it’s wrong. More importantly, the President has expressed the same opinion. Having said that, I also believe, as the President has indicated, that those individuals who operated pursuant to a legal opinion that indicated that that was proper and legal ought not to be prosecuted or investigated.” Panetta is expected to win an easy confirmation despite Republican opposition. Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Jan Klimkowski - 06-02-2009 Peter Lemkin Wrote:Leon Panetta: “I’ve expressed the opinion that I believe that waterboarding is torture and that it’s wrong. More importantly, the President has expressed the same opinion. Having said that, I also believe, as the President has indicated, that those individuals who operated pursuant to a legal opinion that indicated that that was proper and legal ought not to be prosecuted or investigated.” So, all They need is for a high-ranking government law officer to declare, in a legal opinion which can be kept secret on grounds of National Security, that Torture x or y or z is proper and legal, and Their operatives have a Get Out Of Jail card.... Forever and ever... Amen.... Obama "screws up" or does the right thing? - Magda Hassan - 06-02-2009 They were only following orders. Wasn't acceptable in 1946 and isn't acceptable now. They should also charge the law makers for creating the monster as well as any one who has tried to put it into practice. |