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CA moves to legalize pot! - Dawn Meredith - 24-02-2009 What are the odds of this passing? And other states enacting similar legislation? About damn time. Put the murderous MS 13 gang out of business. California Assemblyman Ammiano introduces bill to legalize pot Bay City News Service Posted: 02/23/2009 11:36:10 AM PST State Assemblyman Tom Ammiano, D-San Francisco, announced today he has introduced legislation to legalize and tax marijuana in the state of California. AB 390 would require that all sales of marijuana be made by licensed sellers and that sales be taxed $50 per ounce. It would also forbid sales to anyone under 21. "With the state in the midst of an historic economic crisis, the move towards regulating and taxing marijuana is simply common sense," Ammiano said at a morning news conference at the state building on Golden Gate Avenue in San Francisco. Ammiano said the law, if passed, could generate more than $1.3 billion in much-needed revenue for the state. "California has the opportunity to be the first state in the nation to enact a smart, responsible public policy for the control and regulation of marijuana," he said. Copyright © 2008 by Bay City News, Inc. "... republication, re-transmission or reuse without the express written consent of Bay City News, Inc. is prohibited. CA moves to legalize pot! - Jan Klimkowski - 24-02-2009 That's just rilly rilly fab. Quote:"With the state in the midst of an historic economic crisis, the move towards regulating and taxing marijuana is simply common sense," Ammiano said at a morning news conference at the state building on Golden Gate Avenue in San Francisco. California is bust. Broken. A failed state. Rome is burning. And the response of the politicians is let's all light up a joint, chill out and get high. :canabis: At least during the Vietnam War, Their boy Tim Leary and mates, had to flood the streets with acid. Do They really think letting the people eat cake - sorry, smoke dope - will stop Khaos and Revolution? CA moves to legalize pot! - Mark Stapleton - 24-02-2009 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Do They really think letting the people eat cake - sorry, smoke dope - will stop Khaos and Revolution? Millions of Americans already do smoke dope. Changing the law will simply mean they won't be thrown in jail. It makes sense for a bankrupt state to reverse a law which has no grounding in moral or fiscal logic. http://www.thebigmoney.com/articles/judgments/2009/02/11/audacity-dope This article claims the state would save 1.7 billion in enforcement costs and generate 1 billion in revenue but I think they underestimate the potential benefits. Millions of dollars spent to purchase the drug at inflated black market prices would be freed up to be spent elsewhere in the economy. The drug barons would see a major revenue stream evaporate. Crime would fall sharply. Nothing makes people, even politicians, see more clearly than a healthy dose of financial impoverishment. CA moves to legalize pot! - Jan Klimkowski - 24-02-2009 Mark Stapleton Wrote:Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Do They really think letting the people eat cake - sorry, smoke dope - will stop Khaos and Revolution? Yes. But They need all those three-strikes-and-you're-out "drug criminals" in prisons so the fat cats can stay fat. They need that modern day Slave Labour that prisons provide. Imo this proposal has nothing to do with politicians seeing the logical truth of the argument in favour of cannabis legalization. And everything to do with far more sinister agendas. But then I'm an old cynic who never takes politicians at face value. It's why I was always allergic to Tony "I'm a pretty straight sort of guy" Blair.... CA moves to legalize pot! - Jan Klimkowski - 26-02-2009 Hmmmmm.... toned: Quote:Holder Vows To End Raids On Medical Marijuana Clubs The article is long and continues at the url below. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/26/holder-vows-to-end-raids_n_170119.html CA moves to legalize pot! - Tosh Plumlee - 01-03-2009 deleted for space and duplication. CA moves to legalize pot! - Tosh Plumlee - 01-03-2009 CBS 60min. has a special tonight, I think, on the Mexican Drug war raging in Mexico and many border towns..... I think those who are interested in this litttle know war across our borders should watch it. Drug War my AXX Sunday, March 1, 2009 5:58 PM From: This sender is DomainKeys verified "Robert Plumlee" <wplumlee2006@yahoo.com> View contact details To: wplumlee2006@yahoo.com, "xxxxxxx Plumlee to CBS in reference to CBS 60 Min Special: "...Bring It Own! I have fought the so call 'Drug War" for over thirty-five years and I have watched it--time after time--fail. I have been on 60Min and Eye to Eye with Connie Jung back in the early 90's I have had far too many friends murdered-- more times than I care to remember. I have watched some of them crash their aircraft into mountains in Central America and Mexico. I have watched and been there when their families morn and their children grow into adulthood without their fathers. All in the name of a DRUG WAR. which on the America side of the border goes nowhere and cost the tax payer billions of dollars. We are deep in a secret War now... and it is not in the middle east... it is forty miles south from where I am now in New Mexico. 1600 people were killed in the last year across from El Paso, Texas. The media does not want to see this..., so they just go away, because its not fashionable and "...not good press...". Now this war has spilled over into the United States and American citizens are being kidnapped held for ransom and murdered while our elected officials sit on their hands. I testified three times to the Senate of the United States and I and others warned that this day would soon come. That was in 1986, 1990, and again in 1991. The information was classified top Secret and remains so today. However, nothing was done with any of the testimony then and nothing has changed now, except the matter got worse. We could have stoped this drug influx years ago... but drugs buy guns and ammo and most all of the weapons comes from the USA and special political interest and in the name of profit which go into the hands of American sponsors....this is a cash cow for those and from their view this "War" must continue. Most of the profits and funding goes into American and Mexico election; of course after its "cleaned" and hid from view. I am for legalizing Pot... our prisons are too full and to many good people are being killed, because of our outdated laws. We allow the Cartels to ******* because we demand their product. There is no shortage of suppliers. Change the laws and the Cartels will dry-up.... and then we as a Nation can help those who need help because of their addictions. Tosh plumlee Posted XXXX at 2:43 PM : Mar 1, 2009 Home » 60 Minutes Napolitano On The War In Mexico 60 Minutes: Homeland Security Secretary Says Every American Has A Stake In Mexico's War Against Murderous Gangs Stories Students Warned About Mexican Violence Mexico Drug Violence May Be Reaching Peak ".... (CBS) Acknowledging that the violent drug cartels of Mexico are now operating in many U.S. cities, America's Homeland Security secretary says every American has a stake in Mexico's war against the murderous gangs. Janet Napolitano appears in Anderson Cooper's report on the violence that last year claimed over 6,000 lives to be broadcast on 60 Minutes this Sunday, March 1, at 7 p.m. ET/PT. Mexican drug gangs have been killing each other and fighting back against the government with unprecedented force. They've also increasingly turned to new sources of income like kidnapping. Elements of those gangs have been found in many American cities large and small, from Anchorage to Atlanta to New York. "Right," says Napolitano. "This issue in Mexico, this very brave battle the president of Mexico is fighting, is something every American has a stake in," she tells Cooper. "The stakes are very high for the safety of many, many citizens of Mexico and the stakes are high for the United States no doubt." The Mexican government's crackdown on the cartels has resulted in a quasi war in which the rich drug gangs are fighting back with increasingly more sophisticated and powerful weapons. "Half of what we seize, 55 percent, are assault rifles…over 17,000 assault rifles, throughout the last two years," says Mexico's Attorney General Eduardo Medina-Mora. "Two thousand and 200 grenades, missile and rocket launchers, .50-cal sniper rifles," says Medina Mora. The vast majority of these guns - 90 percent - are being purchased just over the border in the U.S. Medina-Mora wants this stopped. "The Second Amendment was never designed to arm criminal groups, especially not foreign criminal groups," says Medina-Mora. "We believe that much more needs to be done. We need a much more committed effort from the U.S.," he says. When asked by Cooper whether she will ask Congress to reinstate the ban on assault rifles, Napolitano responds, "I haven't thought that far. What I have…worked on is…with Customs, ATF. What do we need to do by way of identifying who is putting these unlawful guns into the hands of the traffickers who are using them to murder people and what do we need to do to stop them?" Efforts against the gangs on both sides are compromised by allegations of corruption among Mexican authorities. 60 Minutes was able to visit and interview a jailed accused drug trafficker, Sandra Avila Beltran, who was born into a cartel family. "In Mexico, there is a lot of corruption….I don't think [Mexico can win the war]. You would have to wipe out the government to wipe out drug trafficking," she tells Cooper. She denies the charges against her. Medina Mora does not deny that the gangs have been successful at corrupting police and politicians. "[Cartels] have a tremendous economic power and a tremendous intimidation power that comes from cash and weapons," he says. ...". (end) In view of tonights 60Min program I think some should re read the following Senator Gary Hart letter of 1991 and ask themselves why was this not investigated and stoped years ago? (...before we spent billions of tax payers dollars or a so called drug war) http://toshplumlee.info/pdf/sengaryhart.PDF PEOPLE WHO READ THIS ALSO READ: Mexican Drug Gang Goes On Killing Spree | February 10, 2009 Indiana Man Renovating Old House Finds Hidden Room | February 17, 2009 Mexico Drug Cartel Violence Soaring | February 11, 2009 |