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Fidel Castro Speech od November 23, 1963 - Adele Edisen - 11-06-2012
Earlier today I read a post where the poster asked anyone to post this speech.
I don't recall who asked, and I had posted it February, but that link is now broken.
However, I found a copy on Google, so here it is: It seemas to be the only one, sorry. You will have to ignore the extra material there.
http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/index.php?showtopic=18765
Adele
Fidel Castro Speech od November 23, 1963 - Phil Dragoo - 12-06-2012
http://orwellwasright.wordpress.com/2012/02/16/concerning-the-facts-and-consequences-of-the-tragic-death-of-president-john-f-kennedy/
I have also saved a copy of this translation as a Word Document on a jump drive.
Within twenty-four hours Castro knew how the cow ate the cabbage:
Carlos Bringuier, delegate of the Counter-Revolutionary organization referred to, said to the New York Times that "at first I suspected Oswald. I frankly thought that he might be an FBI or CIA agent trying to find out what we were doing." So Cuban Counter-Revolutionaries are saying that when Oswald tried to enter their organization he was not accepted because they believed he was from the CIA or FBI, and that he was trying to find out what they were up to.
How curious! And this is not what they publish but they say that he is a Castroite, a Communist, an admirer of Fidel Castro. And now it appears that he tried to enter the organization and was not admitted because they thought he belonged to the FBI or CIA. They must know pretty well the kind of agents the FBI and CIA have since they deal with them a lot.
But for the time being, without affirming anything, because we cannot affirm anything, since Oswald could be guilty or innocent, we can't tell; or he could be a CIA or FBI agent, as those people suspected, or an instrument of the most Reactionary sectors that may have been planning a sinister plot, who may have planned the assassination of Kennedy because of disagreement with his International Policy; or he could be a sick man now being used by U.S. Reactionary sectors.
Fidel Castro Speech od November 23, 1963 - Adele Edisen - 12-06-2012
Thank you, Phil, for that extra copy of Castro's speech. I think it is important in undestanding events related to the John Kennedy assassination, I have now saved a copy for future reference.
Adele
Fidel Castro Speech od November 23, 1963 - Jan Klimkowski - 12-06-2012
Adele, Phil - thank you.
Firstly, it is amazing how much information Cuban intelligence had so soon after the assassination, how open and forthcoming Castro is in his speech, and how acutely insightful his analysis is.
I will excerpt this one single passage, quoting early news wires:
Quote:"According to reports, he told the Embassy officials: I am a
Marxist.' The Federal Bureau of Investigations confirmed that
Oswald went to Russia and requested Soviet citizenship.
"Oswald told the Embassy officials that he intended to
disclose to the Soviet authorities everything he knew from the
three years he had been in the Marine Corps."
Listen to that: "Oswald told the Embassy officials that he
intended to disclose to the Soviet authorities everything he knew
from three years he had been in the U.S. Marine Corps. The
Embassy officials said that Russia never granted Oswald the
citizenship he requested."
Already they have in their hands a guilty person- true or
false? They have already produced someone who is guilty. They
have him. And now look: you will see the whole course followed
by this campaign.
" … He told the officials that he intended to disclose all the
secrets he knew." Well, later I will refer to that again.
In February, 1962 Oswald apparently changed his mind and
returned to the United States. He had in the meantime married
a Russian, Marina, had a child. This man, who is charged with
something more than desertion, with being a spy, with confessing
that he is going to disclose military secrets, simply returned
peacefully to the United States- according to them.
It says: "The Embassy officials went over the case and since
he had not been granted Soviet citizenship, they decided to give
him a passport for the United States … "
Can anyone who has said that he will disclose military secrets
return to the United Sates without being arrested, tried, without
being sent to jail?
It says: "Government records show that he left Moscow with
485 dollars for expenses, which the United States Government
gave to him.
"This year Oswald requested another passport. He told the State
Department that he wanted to visit England, France, ,Germany, the
Netherlands, Finland, Italy, and the Soviet Union; he said he
planned to make a trip in October or December 1963,o r in January
of 1964. The passport was issued in New Orleans on June 25th;
however, it is not known whether Oswald returned the money that
was loaned to him for the first return trip to the United States.
Yes. To reiterate:
Can anyone who has said that he will disclose military secrets
return to the United Sates without being arrested, tried, without
being sent to jail?
A fundamental question asked by Castro on November 23, 1963.
The answer to that question, then and now, is emphatically NO.
Fidel Castro Speech od November 23, 1963 - Phil Dragoo - 12-06-2012
Yes, Adele, Fidel sees the paradox which points to intelligence.
We see the U-2 secrets leaving via the subject of the Priscilla Johnson interview.
The sheepdipped "Communist" returns with the aid of J. Walton Moore, George DeMohrenschildt and the Paines.
Out through the Albert Schweitzer College. In through a firm analyzing U-2 footage.
Castro was sitting with Jean Daniels when news was brought to him.
"This is very bad."
In a very large sense, four-dimensionally bad.