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Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Albert Doyle - 11-10-2015 Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Saying that a car was "planted" and then saying, "Gad, it was a CIA operation!" What does that mean? Jim, if you noticed, what Tom does is no different than what a person defending the government would do. There's a fine line between rigor and devil's advocacy and outright pro-government defense I think you should be more mindful of than you seem to be. Tom Scully is a person who refuses to answer where exactly he draws the line in his defense of FBI reports. He is endorsing and quoting reports that were the same source of the definition of Oswald from the Warren Report without recognizing how that taints the information. It scares me when I see credible researchers criticizing the flaws in Janney while using FBI reports and staying non-committal as to those reports and their credibility. Do you get what I mean here? The planted car and its evidentiary significance was already explained in enough detail that it should be understood. The car was the weak link because it had to be planted because of its role in the set-up. That caused it to have no documentation or person that could be traced to it. A sure sign of a black op set-up (as Wiggins said) that can't be so casually ignored by anyone seriously looking at Mary Meyer's murder. I've also never seen either you or Tom explain how there could be no fibers from Crump found on Mary Meyer during the forensic examination when the murder scene required close contact through dragging. Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Tom Scully - 11-10-2015 Albert Doyle Wrote:Jim DiEugenio Wrote:Saying that a car was "planted" and then saying, "Gad, it was a CIA operation!" What does that mean? Let us review what is actually verifiable. It is Doyle-Yates serial posting about the his opinions of the Peter Janney novel's details for the past three years and four months with nothing linking him to Janney, his book, or to Janney's claims in the book; D-Y just does it. If you disagree and push back against D-Y's campaign, just as if you question his beliefs he posted in the Ralph Yates thread, D-Y posts that you seem (must be) a government agency defender, supporter, etc.....etc.... Within these "rules" invented and repeated by Doyle-Yates, author Janney, son of a CIA agent of elevated rank and nephew of US Army Secretary and General Dynamics Chairman Frank Pace, is above reproach no matter how many times actual evidence strongly supports that he is a disturbed (swears in a court filing that he is surrogate son of Mary Meyer) attention grabbing person uncommitted to accuracy in his speech or publications. Is this accurate? Quote:https://www.google.com/#q=%22mary%27s+mosaic%22+planted&tbm=bks BTW, according to Janney, "CIA assassin" Mitchell was "missing" (I am given the impression, due to the reactions to my research re: "missing" Mitchell, that Simkin, Janney, Doug Horne, and Doyle-Yates are unhappy to learn the truth about Mitchell never being missing, after all!). The holes in Janney's "missing car" claims Doyle-Yates is impressed with, are also examined in this post I am excerpting only a small portion of.: Quote:http://letsrollforums.com//showpost.php?p=245472&postcount=643 The researcher I've quoted directly above believes the JFK Assassination was a staged event. Although he is astute and demonstrates a strong ability to read and present actual inconsistancies in the claims of others that render their conclusions unlikely, he exhibits the same disconnect Janney and his 24-7 defender Doyle-Yates practice, none know enough to get to the conclusion they have reached, based on ?????????. Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Albert Doyle - 12-10-2015 I'm struggling to see where Tom made any attempt to answer the direct point about the car being a CIA set-up prop. The documentation for the car vaporized. Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Mark A. O'Blazney - 12-10-2015 Albert Doyle Wrote:I'm struggling to see where Tom made any attempt to answer the direct point about the car being a CIA set-up prop. The documentation for the car vaporized. Feeling a bit beamish today, Mr. Scully. Let's really spice up this jambalaya with a dash of "Lt. Col. David H. Strier", shall we ? Ahh, those salad days at Culto's place. It ended so………. suddenly there, as does much in this life. Suddenly. R.I.P., Mary. Gone 51 years this day, double-tapped out of existence. Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Tom Scully - 12-10-2015 Mark A. O'Blazney Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:I'm struggling to see where Tom made any attempt to answer the direct point about the car being a CIA set-up prop. The documentation for the car vaporized. Mark, I'm sorry, but this pit bull won't stop barking. I don't want to put words in your mouth, so jump in anytime. Doyle-Yates is the self-styled, know-it-all expert, but what made sense to you, taking Damore's claims at face value, warts and all, (Janney does not publish a claim that Damore let you listen to the tape of his alleged tel-con(s) with "Mitchell".....) no longer made sense after I published the facts I discovered about Mitchell's not being missing and having a background consistent with who he, the DC police, and the US Arrorney's office in DC informed the press and the trial court OF, about their witness, Lt. William Mitchell in '64-'65. So how could Doyle-Yates know (or posture) so emphatically more than you do that his belief system is at all viable? Even Janney no longer believes Damore's claims, starting with the problem that witness Mitchell never did "wet work" was born in 1939 and could not be 74 years old in 1993 as Damore claimed, and was not in all branches of the military and in the FBI "at one time or another," etc., etc., etc. Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Mark A. O'Blazney - 12-10-2015 How can so many Stars be wrong ? Is the fault in ourselves, or………… ? Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Albert Doyle - 12-10-2015 Tom answers a direct point with another unrelated data dump (which means he can't answer the point). This is the "little bit pregnant" axiom that Tom conspicuously fails. It is how credible analysis is done. Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Mark A. O'Blazney - 12-10-2015 Albert Doyle Wrote:Tom answers a direct point with another unrelated data dump (which means he can't answer the point). I have no words for your "dumps", Mr. Doyle. A pity you can't wade through Mr.Scully's findings and see the forest for the trees, but comparing your posts to Tom's over the YEARS, well……….. Mr. Drago, what did you used to say ? Oh, yeah……. "Thus endeth the lesson" Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Albert Doyle - 12-10-2015 Mark A. O'Blazney Wrote:Albert Doyle Wrote:Tom answers a direct point with another unrelated data dump (which means he can't answer the point). You're trolling Mr O'Blazney and not answering the progress of points clearly detailed in this thread. The harder you don't answer something the more credible it becomes. The car had no documentation because it was a CIA plant. Mary's Mosaic: Entering Peter Janney's World of Fantasy - Tom Scully - 12-10-2015 Albert Doyle Wrote:... You're trolling Mr O'Blazney and not answering the progress of points clearly detailed in this thread. But you are not asking any questions, are you? You're just living in the good ole days when Crump trial witness William L. Mitchell was "missing" and thus could be passed off as a "CIA assassin". You think you can still credibly claim a unrepaired Rambler that Wiggins said he could not account for and his co-worker Bill Branch was last described sitting in the seat of, with the Rambler keys and no mentioned means of transport back to his work place, has to be a See Eye Aye "plant". Is it possible that anyone knows more about these circumstance than you claim to know? Are you even serious about any of this? You've posted more responses on this thread and on the book review site than any other human being, yet what can you point to as a fact that you can support and have contributed in any of your three years long posting campaign? You also debated me in a thread on this topic on the old Lancer forum. Through it all, you've only repeated Janneyr's third hand and somewhat discredited claims and interpretations, but here you are, lecturing DiEugenio. Damore's researcher O'Blazney, and the researcher who located the "missing" William L. Mithcell..... me. If I located the Rambler today, with a chain of detail back to the 51 year old event as solid as the chain I presented in IDing "missing Mitchell," I have not the least doubt you would keep repeating your posts, anyway. Is it a fish or a troll that is unaware it is wet? Mark A. O'Blazney Wrote:............ Mark, I think what I find most curious is Mr. Doyle-Yates's total lack of curiousity. He has not indicated any interest in the slightest in you, or how you came to be Leo Damore's researcher. He simply re-posts (for the past three years and four months) what has impressed him in Mary's Mosaic, the Janney novel that was fronted as a non-fiction book by a "CIA-DC insider," once removed. I am sure you can recall that I badgered you with questions related to your knowledge of the events presented from Janney's POV? Nothing I've presented since August, 2012, or posted, or anything Mark has said, has influenced in the silghtest, the Doyle-Yates posted interpretations related to the circumstances of Mary Meyer's murder. In contrast, my discoveries have certainly influenced both Mark, the former researcher of Leo Damore, and prompted Janney to issue a sequel to his book, file a publicity stunt lawsuit, and to finally admit that his "missing" Miitchell was not a CIA assassin and that Damore could not have been in contact with the actual Crump trial witness and now non-missing and non-assassin, William L. Mitchell. But...... not Doyle-Yates, he just keeps on posting along.... the same unsupported interpretations. I found out about Mark's "uncles" independently, and when I did, I asked Mark if he thought Damore was an astute enough researcher to tap Mark's talents because of these familial questions, and Mark cannot say, for sure. In looking up this info for this post, I came upon an email in which you shared your interaction with Henry Wiggins and of the fire at the M Street Esso gas station, just before you arrived intending to comb through its old boxes of customer records. There were two ESSO stations with the same ownership, Bill Branch employed at one, and Henry Wiggins at the other. Roundtree's investigator, Purcell, is the only source attributed as unsuccessful in locating a record of the customer call about the Rambler. Roundtree is quoted by Burleigh advising that investigator Purcell also never found Ray Crump's alibi girlfriend. VS: Quote: There is no statement or testimony claiming that Wiggins or Branch repaired the "missing" Rambler, only that Wiggins lifted the hood after unlocking the passenger door, and Branch sitting in the Rambler when Wiggins left the scene to return to the M Street Esso station to call police. There is no account I can locate that explains how Bill Branch was transported from his seat in the Rambler, back to his workplace. Wiggins was transported back to the murder scene by DC police, and then later to the roadway by police, where he had last seen Branch and the Rambler. He said he noticed the Rambler was gone, but how did Branch leave the scene???????????? Janney wrote that they had a key to the Rambler, but there is no description of either of them even attempting to start the Rambler with the key or of doing any pre-repair diagnosis, so what would there have been any related billing record for, related to repairing the Rambler? Did Bill Branch walk off, with transport away from the Rambler undescribed by Janney, and simply leave the key with the Rambler? As I've stated before, all of Doyle-Yates's conclusions are unjustified because he does not have enough information to reach them. Back to Marks' family. This woman, Katherine, was Mark's grandmother.: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=143570513 This was her household in the 1910 US Census, when she was age 20. Her li'l brother grew up to be father of a close friend, according to his HSCA security classified testimony, of David Atlee Phillips, and this nephew of Katherine (Jeremiah A. O'Leary, Jr.) and first cousin of Mark's mother, served as a pallbearer at Lee Harvey Oswald's funeral. He and Aynesworth were ubiquitous in Dallas, that weekend.: [URL="http://http://fkancestry.com/gl2-william-jeremiah-oleary/"] [/URL]http://fkancestry.com/gl2-william-jeremiah-oleary/ [TABLE="width: 656"] [TR] [TD]William J O Leary[/TD] [TD] Head[/TD] [TD] M[/TD] [TD] 40[/TD] [TD] Ireland[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] Margaret O Leary[/TD] [TD] Wife[/TD] [TD] F[/TD] [TD] 48[/TD] [TD] District of Columbia[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] Michael W Flynn[/TD] [TD] Stepson[/TD] [TD] M[/TD] [TD] 23[/TD] [TD] District of Columbia[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] Katherine Flynn[/TD] [TD] Stepdaughter[/TD] [TD] F[/TD] [TD] 20[/TD] [TD] District of Columbia[/TD] [/TR] [TR] [TD] Jeremiah O Leary[/TD] [TD] Son[/TD] [TD] M[/TD] [TD] 13[/TD] [TD] District of Columbia ....[/TD] [/TR] [/TABLE] Mark's grandmother, Katherine's brother was Mike Flynn. Katherine had a son, Mark's unlce Bill. Bill brought together Huntley and Brinkley at NBC and he hired Walter Sheridan to "cover" Jim Garrison's investigation. Sorry, Mark, to read of the recent loss of your cousin, Bill's son. Quote:[URL="https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/local/1993/12/20/washington-journalist-jeremiah-oleary-dies/0f0ee844-2577-45cb-89ca-ffc5f1399235/"] Mr. Doyle-Yates, please forgive my criticism of you in this post if you've been busy PMing Mark O'Blazney and peppering him with question to satisfy your extremely well hidden curiosity. |