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Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93 - Ed Jewett - 04-07-2012
Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93
http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20120703/Ex-FBI-Employee-Saw-Angels-At-Flight-93/
PITTSBURGH A former police officer who retired from the FBI due to post-traumatic stress disorder linked to her role in the aftermath of the Sept. 11 terror attacks has written a book about seeing legions of angels guarding the Pennsylvania site where a hijacked airliner crashed.
Lillie Leonardi served as a liaison between law enforcement and the families of the passengers and crew members killed in the United Airlines Flight 93 crash. She arrived on the scene about three hours after the crash.
Although Leonardi's book, "In the Shadow of a Badge: A Spiritual Memoir," centers on her vision of angels, she argues her life has been changed more by what she didn't see that day.
"The biggest thing for me is that that there were no bodies," she said.
Leonardi, 56, remembers the burning pine and jet fuel stinging her nostrils. She said she also remembers a smoldering crater littered with debris too small to associate with the jetliner or 40 passengers and crew on board.
"I'm used to crime scenes but this one blew me out of the water. It just looked like the ground had swallowed up" the plane, Leonardi said.
"That's when I started seeing like shimmery lights ... and it was kind of misty and that's when I first saw, like, the angels there," Leonardi said. "And I didn't say anything to the guys because you can imagine if I would have said, 'I just saw angels on the crash site,' they'd have called the office and they'd have said, 'She lost her mind and tell her to go home.'"
Instead, Leonardi kept it to herself for the better part of two years. As emotional and physical ailments surfaced that she would later learn were post-traumatic stress disorder-related, she began telling a close circle of friends and colleagues what she saw, including Kenneth McCabe, her former supervisor.
McCabe, 59, now retired near Cocoa Beach, Fla., was chief of the FBI's operational response section, which sent laboratory teams to gather evidence from each of the Sept. 11, 2001 terror sites. A year or so later, he became the special agent in charge of the FBI's Pittsburgh Field Office, making him Leonardi's boss until he retired from the bureau in 2004.
"I believe her. I read the whole book," McCabe told The Associated Press. "I know she believes 100 percent that's what she saw. I know she's a sane person so I'm not going to discount what she says she saw."
McCabe said he also understands why the Flight 93 crash site was different than the other attack scenes.
"I was there one day when they brought a busload of family members to overlook the site ... and I teared up," McCabe said. "Just because these people had the thousand-yard stare. They didn't have any closure. They didn't have any bodies to look at. They didn't have anything to look at. At least in New York and Washington, there was the devastation (of the World Trade Center and the Pentagon) but here, except for seeing someone off in the distance, in the woods, looking for things, there was nothing."
Leonardi has befriended some Flight 93 family members, though none consented to be interviewed for this story. Asked about the book, the spokeswoman for the Families of Flight 93, Lisa Linden, issued a statement lauding the "extraordinary work" done by the FBI that also said, "The crash site and sacred ground now central to the Flight 93 National Memorial is a place that elicits powerful reactions from those who work at the site and who visit."
Leonardi's story has caught the attention of WQED, Pittsburgh's public television station, which featured a segment on her book in a March episode of "Pittsburgh 360," a public affairs and current events show.
The Rev. Ron Lengwin, spokesman for the Roman Catholic Diocese of Pittsburgh, counts Leonardi a personal friend and also interviewed her on his weekly radio show, Amplify.
"I have no reason to believe that she did not see angels," Lengwin said. "I think it's not surprising to me that God could choose to say that he was present there to give comfort to people, and to give comfort to the people who were there to give comfort to other people."
Leonardi still lives in Arnold, a tiny city about 20 miles northeast of Pittsburgh where she began her law enforcement career in 1984 as the town's first female police officer.
She said her primary reason for deciding to go public with her story after years of soul-searching is to heal and to bring comfort and healing to others affected either by the attack or post-traumatic stress disorder.
"The purpose of the book is to tell the story of the angels being there so that other people understand that God was there," said Leonardi, who said she was raised a "devout Catholic" but now practices what she calls "spiritualism."
Leonardi, who was a teen mother and wife, said she has no doubt about what she saw, but wonders why she was allowed to see it.
"You get pregnant and married at 16, that's not exactly, you know, holy material," said Leonardi, now a divorced grandmother.
"To this day I know I saw those angels, I've never doubted that. What I doubted was, why me?"
Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93 - Adele Edisen - 04-07-2012
It's not too surprising that this woman "saw" images of angels at the surreal site of a plane crash with no bodies or plane parts strewn about.
The brain is certainly capable of creating images on its own, such as hallucinations and dream images much like movie scenes. In fact the normal brain during sleep creates such images every 90 minutes or so. We could even say that the difference between normal people and psychotic people who have visual hallucinations is that normal people dream at night while asleep, but the psychotic people who hallucinate "dream" while they are "awake".
In a frightening or stressful situation people could "see" thngs that are not there. Her image of legions of angels protecting the site, as if to protect the "souls" of the dead from further harm, is her reaction to believing that there were dead bodies in the small area of ground which had "swallowed" the entire plane.
Some hallucinations may be interpreted as 'ego-protecting'. In this case, the overwhelming feeling of horror at the crash site and lack of evidence of bodies or any plane having crashed there induced her hallucination - like a transient psychosis.
Adele
Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93 - Carsten Wiethoff - 04-07-2012
But still the important information, supported by the coroner on site, is that there were no bodies. And no aircraft. And no luggage. Just a crater.
In the 30+ years, during which I follow aircraft crashes and frequently read official crash reports, this is the only case in which an aircraft was "swallowed" by the ground. And, conveniently, no official crash report exists, as would be mandated by law. And it is the only case in which an aircraft, which had a controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) caused a second "debris field" 8 miles away.
I don't know what happened there. But I know what did not happen.:nono:
Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93 - Peter Lemkin - 04-07-2012
Carsten Wiethoff Wrote:But still the important information, supported by the coroner on site, is that there were no bodies. And no aircraft. And no luggage. Just a crater.
In the 30+ years, during which I follow aircraft crashes and frequently read official crash reports, this is the only case in which an aircraft was "swallowed" by the ground. And, conveniently, no official crash report exists, as would be mandated by law. And it is the only case in which an aircraft, which had a controlled flight into terrain (CFIT) caused a second "debris field" 8 miles away.
I don't know what happened there. But I know what did not happen.:nono:
It was all 'magic', complete with 'angels'.....the laws of physics were suspended - as was the truth! The USA and its 'allies' in Europe are increasingly an unstable house of cards of lies built upon lies built upon lies built upon lies.......
Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93 - Adele Edisen - 04-07-2012
Carsten wrote:
Quote:But still the important information, supported by the coroner on site, is that there were no bodies. And no aircraft. And no luggage. Just a crater.
We undestand that, and that is why it was so horrific to Lillie Leonardi. It was so unexplainable to any rationally minded person that it caused a great shock to her, resulting in a post-traumatic stress disorder syndrome. Some people are more sensitive to disturbances such as this.
In a parallel way, the scenes and experiences on a war battlefield can have similar disorienting effects. Soldiers have been known to develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder. Some even are driven to commit suicide.
As for the site itself, the only reasonable explanation is that there was no airplane crash there - no bodies, no luggage, no aircraft (other than some small parts which had been planted there, as I recall from reports at the time). Airplane parts were found several miles from this site, though..... I don't recall if body parts and luggage were found there.
Adele
Ex-FBI employee claims she saw angels at Flight 93 - Keith Millea - 04-07-2012
Quote:In a parallel way, the scenes and experiences on a war battlefield can have similar disorienting effects. Soldiers have been known to develop symptoms of post-traumatic stress disorder.
Yes,I have battlefield PTSD.One interesting aspect,is that my mind has blocked me from visualizing a certain traumatic scene.When I mentally try to "revisit" this scene,I can only see the color blue.This seems likely to be a natural mental safety valve process.
