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A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Carsten Wiethoff - 10-08-2012
BREAKFAST IN HELL
The yolks are jungle green or bloody,
depending on which blasted tree you squat against
to try and hoist the greasy, lukewarm chow
in your tin canteen cup to your leathery mouth.
A colony of spores thrives on humidified bread
and fried insects pepper blackened bacon.
Breakfast in hell, three days soaked-loping
from Firebase X where Charlie waits along the trail,
black mosquito with a stinger, copper-jacketed,
that ruptures trained brains or a foolhardy chest.
Nothing reminds us of a Diner in Indiana or New York.
This is a kitchen where disease drips from trees.
Were happy for a moments peace to swill dry mouths
out with a brew the hue of coffee
but the taste of burnt tires our guts have learned
to tolerate along with shrapnel crumbs.
Too tired to ask ourselves why were here
we light joints to avoid being besieged by answers.
Patriots all, we huddle, ready to salute death,
the general whos drafted tens of thousands on all sides.
The heat is stifling and makes us wish
we could pull on Charlies thin black pajamas
and still serve our violent mission as good grunts
who keep metaphoric dominoes from tumbling.
Theres Tex from Arizona who rode a bus
through a Panhandle night to Benning
and swears hell move to Amarillo if he outlives Nam.
Wash, from Harlem, paid a seamstress, who sits
near Saigons Paris brothel, to create a pair
of boxer shorts for him from a nylon Old Glory.
We swear in feigned joy well reunite
ten years from now to hide a pessimistic truth:
many will be long dead, and the rest will live
in furnished nightmares and forget the wish
to elbow at the bar in Denvers Browns Hotel.
Some will go home to beat their wives again,
others to pump gas near flying Turnpikes
or deliver milk in Boston suburbs before dawn.
We have learned to commit crimes like murder,
without facing trial. Some will try that. Ill wake
from night-sweats to write poems, still breakfasting in hell.
Oswald LeWinter
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Charles Drago - 10-08-2012
Do we really need to go over the "Oswald LeWinter" provocation again?
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Carsten Wiethoff - 10-08-2012
Charles Drago Wrote:Do we really need to go over the "Oswald LeWinter" provocation again?No we don't.
I understand your previous words on this issue so that you don't believe that a real person with this name ever existed and that choosing the name Oswald is of course a mockery of LHO.
I do currently think that there is a real person with a real history stemming from Austria being born with that name and for reasons that would very much interest me involved himself with clever disinformation into some of the most important deep political cases of the 20th century.
I guess we all are entitled to our views.
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Dawn Meredith - 10-08-2012
Charles Drago Wrote:Do we really need to go over the "Oswald LeWinter" provocation again?
Really, why would anyone post anything by this CIA disinformation artist? To what end?
Dawn
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Carsten Wiethoff - 10-08-2012
Quote:Really, why would anyone post anything by this CIA disinformation artist? To what end?I am, maybe more than you, interested in the person LeWinter and his motives. I find it interesting that he writes about Vietnam and wonder, whether he served there or if everything is just a thin cover story. I also wonder about the interests of his handlers, whether the purpose was just to muddy the waters or if he was part of a larger psychological operation keeping the small fringe of people interested in deep political events on false trails, driving some over the edge in the process.
I am fascinated by the parallels between him and Russbacher and wonder whether there have been more of this type, intelligent european Jews being brought to the states in a young age and made into tools for the manipulation of the people thirsting for reality.
Maybe you know more about this man than me. If you do, I am interested.
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Charles Drago - 10-08-2012
There is no "person" named Oswald LeWinter writing "his" publicly offered material.
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Carsten Wiethoff - 10-08-2012
I do think the case is more complex. At least there is a person running around calling himself by that name, reading poems he allegedly has written. But of course, in the end it does not matter.
http://www.poetscoop.org/media/OswaldLeWinter.mp3
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Charles Drago - 10-08-2012
"Oswald LeWinter is the disinformant who did most damage in the Palme murder investigation. He kept the Police Investigation Group (PU) working for four years. LeWinter led an incredible double life. Behind the scenes, he was a professional disinformant, intelligence agent, and infiltrator, operating under cover names like 'Y', 'Razin', 'Razine', 'Racine', 'Wamma', and 'Ibrahim Razin'. The face he showed the world, however, was as a sophisticated and respected literature professor who had authored the book "Shakespeare in Europe ', a politician, and a poet."
For a fuller view, visit http://www.leopoldreport.com/LRsajt74.html
You might also consider the names "Oswald" and "LeWinter" within their historical and literary contexts related to espionage and assassination operations.
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Carsten Wiethoff - 10-08-2012
Agreed and this text does not even include his dealings in the Diana case, for which he was convicted to four years in prison, if I am correctly informed. I am interested who ordered him to do that all, why he did it and who else was and is doing similar stuff for similar reasons. And you cannot say that he cares much for low profile cases.
A poem about Vietnam by Oswald LeWinter - Jan Klimkowski - 10-08-2012
Dawn Meredith Wrote:Charles Drago Wrote:Do we really need to go over the "Oswald LeWinter" provocation again?
Really, why would anyone post anything by this CIA disinformation artist? To what end?
Dawn
Dawn, my friend - check out the thread here:
Particularly posts such as #12, 24 and 28.
I raised the SPECTRE of Oswald LeWinter. Carsten, entirely correctly and in the light of our previous discussions, sent me a Daniele Ganser postcard.
Oswald LeWinter is a key interviewee in Francovich's essential Gladio trilogy, and thus a subject deserving deep political scrutiny.
And thus the web is tangled....