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Israel ground war in Egypt? - Peter Lemkin - 17-11-2012 Just hours before Israel assassinated Hamas commander Ahmed Jabari on Tuesday, he received the draft proposal of a permanent truce agreement with Israel. But Israel approved the airstrike anyways, choosing escalation over resolution. Israeli peace activist Gershon Baskin, who helped negotiate the release of Gilad Shalit and maintained contacts with Hamas leaders, said the truce agreement included protocols for maintaining a cease-fire in the case of cross-border violence between Israel and Gaza. Baskin told Haaretz that senior officials in Israel knew about the pending truce agreement, but nevertheless approved the assassination, presumably knowing it would terminate the truce and escalate the conflict with Gaza. "I think that they have made a strategic mistake," Baskin said, "which will cost the lives of quite a number of innocent people on both sides." He added that Jabari's assassination "killed the possibility of achieving a truce." "This blood could have been spared. Those who made the decision must be judged by the voters, but to my regret they will get more votes because of this," he added. "According to Baskin," Haaretz reports, "during the past two years Jabari internalized the realization that the rounds of hostilities with Israel were beneficial neither to Hamas nor to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip and only caused suffering, and several times he acted to prevent firing by Hamas into Israel." Even when Hamas was pulled into participating in rocket fire, its rockets would always land in open spaces. "And that was intentional," Baskin said. Israel ground war in Egypt? - Magda Hassan - 17-11-2012 BREAKING FROM GAZA : Dr. Ashraf Al-Qedra, from Al-Shifa Hospital in A Press release : "The Latest death toll is 39 Deaths ( 5 of them are Children under the age of 2 years ) and 340 injuries , 80% of them are civilians. and our Palestinian Hospital are now suffering the lack of Medicine and medical supplies, asking Gazans to Donate blood and volunteer in Nursing. We also found that Israel is using chemical and perhaps biological weapons in Gaza, we saw shrapnels that has toxic properties in the bodies of injured and dead children and that there are strange smells in the air". -Dr. Ashraf Al-Qedra- Israel ground war in Egypt? - Jan Klimkowski - 18-11-2012 Israel targeting journalists again, and justifying it with YouTube psyop video porn. The propaganda video can be seen at the link. A cameraman had to have his leg amputated. Israel is calling it a surgical strike. Quote:Israeli air strikes hit media centres in Gaza City Israel ground war in Egypt? - Magda Hassan - 18-11-2012 Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Israeli air strikes hit media centres in Gaza CityThe ethnic cleansing will not be televised. In and of itself a war crime. Israel ground war in Egypt? - Jan Klimkowski - 18-11-2012 Magda Hassan Wrote:Jan Klimkowski Wrote:Israeli air strikes hit media centres in Gaza CityThe ethnic cleansing will not be televised. I was wondering why Bibi & his henchmen were threatening their quisling leader, Abbas. Apparently, if Abbas' move to get Palestine "observer status" at the UN succeeds, Israeli war crimes could be referred to the International Criminal Court. That said, I still don't know why Bibi is worried. The International Criminal Court just revealed itself as totally bought and paid for by declaring the Croatian ethnic cleansing of Serbs in Krajina, masterminded by American private military contractors, as legitimate: Quote:War crimes convictions of two Croatian generals overturned Quote:Croatia's 'war crime' is no longer a crime after UN tribunal verdict Israel ground war in Egypt? - Magda Hassan - 18-11-2012 Israel killed its subcontractor in GazaThe political outcome of the operation will become clear on January 22, but the strategic ramifications are more complex: Israel will have to find a new subcontractor to replace Ahmed Jabari as its border guard in the south.By Aluf Benn | Nov.14, 2012 | 10:44 PM | 21[TABLE] [/TABLE] Ahmed Jabari was a subcontractor, in charge of maintaining Israel's security in Gaza. This title will no doubt sound absurd to anyone who in the past several hours has heard Jabari described as "an arch-terrorist," "the terror chief of staff" or "our Bin Laden." But that was the reality for the past five and a half years. Israel demanded of Hamas that it observe the truce in the south and enforce it on the multiplicity of armed organizations in the Gaza Strip. The man responsible for carrying out this policy was Ahmed Jabari. In return for enforcing the quiet, which was never perfect, Israel funded the Hamas regime through the flow of shekels in armored trucks to banks in Gaza, and continued to supply infrastructure and medical services to the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip. Jabari was also Israel's partner in the negotiations for the release of Gilad Shalit; it was he who ensured the captive soldier's welfare and safety, and it was he who saw to Shalit's return home last fall. Now Israel is saying that its subcontractor did not do his part and did not maintain the promised quiet on the southern border. The repeated complaint against him was that Hamas did not succeed in controlling the other organizations, even though it is not interested in escalation. After Jabari was warned openly (Amos Harel and Avi Issacharoff reported here at the beginning of this week that the assassination of top Hamas people would be renewed), he was executed on Wednesday in a public assassination action, for which Israel hastened to take responsibility. The message was simple and clear: You failed - you're dead. Or, as Defense Minister Ehud Barak likes to say, "In the Middle East there is no second chance for the weak." The assassination of Jabari will go down in history as another showy military action initiated by an outgoing government on the eve of an election. This is what researcher Prof. Yagil Levy has called "fanning the conflict as an intra-state control strategy:" The external conflict helps a government strengthen its standing domestically because the public unites behind the army, and social and economic problems are edged off the national agenda. This recipe is familiar from 1955, when David Ben-Gurion returned from his exile in Sde Boker and led the Israel Defense Forces to a retaliatory action in Gaza, and his party, Mapai, to victory in the election. (Barak recalled this period with nostalgia, when he spoke last week at a memorial for Moshe Dayan). Ever since, whenever the ruling party feels threatened at the ballot box, it puts its finger on the trigger. The examples are common knowledge: the launch of the Shavit 2 missile in the summer of 1961, in the midst of the Lavon affair; the bombing of the Iraqi reactor in 1981; Operation Grapes of Wrath in Lebanon in 1996, and Operation Cast Lead in Gaza on the eve of the 2009 election. In the two latter cases, the military action turned into a defeat in the election. There is a disagreement among historians as to whether it is necessary to add the Yom Kippur War to the list. In that conflict, which broke out on the eve of the 1973 election, the Arabs fired first, but their decision to go to war was taken in the context of the increasingly extreme position of Prime Minister Golda Meir's government which had refused Egyptian President Anwar Sadat's peace offer and declared an expansion of Israeli settlements in Sinai. This, for example, is the opinion of researchers Prof. Motti Golani and Shoshana Ishoni-Barri. The current operation, Pillar of Defense, belongs in the same category. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is interested in neutralizing every possible rival, and Defense Minister Ehud Barak is fighting for enough votes to return to the Knesset. A war against Hamas will wipe out the electoral aspirations of the ditherer, Ehud Olmert, whose disciples expected him to announce his candidacy this evening and it will kick off the agenda the "social and economic issue" that serves the Labor Party headed by MK Shelly Yacimovich. When the cannons roar, we see only Netanyahu and Barak on the screen, and all the other politicians have to applaud them. The political outcome of the operation will become clear on January 22. The strategic ramifications are more complex: Israel will have to find a new subcontractor to replace Ahmed Jabari as its border guard in the south, and it will also have to ensure that its action in Gaza does not cause the collapse of its peace treaty with Egypt under the leadership of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Hamas movement's patron. These are not easy challenges and the results of the operation will be judged by the extent to which they are met. http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/israel-killed-its-subcontractor-in-gaza.premium-1.477886 Israel ground war in Egypt? - Magda Hassan - 19-11-2012 Israel ground war in Egypt? - Magda Hassan - 19-11-2012 This is a message from Anonymous Op Israel, Greetings Citizens of the world, this is Anonymous. Video November 2012 will be a month to remember for the Israeli defense forces.Posted November 18, 2012 Transcript Greetings Citizens of the world, this is Anonymous. It has come to our attention that the Israeli government has ignored repeated warnings about the abuse of human rights, shutting down the internet in Israel and mistreating its own citizens and those of its neighboring countries. November 2012 will be a month to remember for the Israeli defense forces and internet security forces.
We will strike any and all websites that we deem to be in Israeli Cyberspace in retaliation for the mistreating of people in Gaza and other areas. Anonymous has been watching you, and you have received fair warning of our intent to seize control of your cyberspace in accordance with basic humanitarian rights of free speech and the right to live. As of 9:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, the number of attacked Israeli websites is approximately 10,000. The further assault on the people of Gaza, people of Palestine or any other group will be treated as a violation of the Anonymous Collectives intent to protect the people of the World. Israel, it is in your best interest to cease and desist any further military action or your consequence will become worse with each passing hour. This is a message from Anonymous Op Israel, Danger Hackers, Anonymous Special Operations and the Anonymous Collective of the entire planet. We will treat each additional death as a personal attack on Anonymous and you will be dealt with swiftly and without warning. Our hearts are with the women, children and families that are suffering at this very moment, as a direct result of the Israeli Governments misuse of its military. Brothers and sisters of Anonymous, we urge you to protest the Israeli Government and any associated hostile forces. Now is the time for anonymous to help the people that are hurting. Help the people that are being taken advantage of. Help the ones that are dying and it will further the collective as a whole and we can help bring a peace within the Gaza region to those people that so desperately need it. We call on the Anonymous Collective to hack, deface, docks, hijack, database leak, admin takeover, four oh four and DNS terminate the Israeli Cyberspace by any means necessary. To the Israeli Government, Anonymous has grown tired of your bullying, and now you will see the result of your actions. Cyber war has been declared on Israel cyber space and you will see exactly what we are capable of. Israel, the angel of death has been called to your cyberspace. We are Anonymous. We are legion. Expect us and Respect us. Israel ground war in Egypt? - Mark Stapleton - 19-11-2012 http://www.debka.com/article/22537/Israel-will-strike-Gaza-so-long-as-Khamenei-nixes-talks-with-Obama According to Debka, which is so hardline it must be taken with a grain of salt, the attack on Gaza is being carried out in order to pressure Iran into nuclear negotiations. If it's even partly true, it shows how far from sanity the Israeli leadership resides. Israel ground war in Egypt? - Lauren Johnson - 19-11-2012 Mark Stapleton Wrote:http://www.debka.com/article/22537/Israel-will-strike-Gaza-so-long-as-Khamenei-nixes-talks-with-Obama You would have to swallow a pound of salt to ever take Debka seriously. |