08-03-2016, 09:55 AM
Kara Dellacioppa Wrote:Have you guys taken a look at Levenda's new book The Hitler Legacy? Im only a couple of chapters into it and Ive learned so much about Levenda's life and intelligence connections which before I felt like i had to piece together from various blogs and obscure podcasts trying to figure him out.
Anyway the occult obviously figures heavily in the book...
on another note. Ive never seen Jay Dyer mentioned here before and I just started reading and listening to him a few months ago...
Dyer and Levenda seem to both have murky agendas coming from different places. Sometimes I feel like the whole "deep politics" thing has been come its own upstart industry, especially with the internet, i suppose it always was.. however sometimes when these researchers sounds interesting with good material but beneath the surface, i feel like Im just being sold another ideology or religion.. Ed Opperman is a great interviewer but a total evangelical christian. Levenda is into the occult, lately I feel like Dyer who seems to admire Joseph P Farrell has his heart in the Eastern Orthodox Church, James Corbett is an anti state libertarian. I dont think anything is bad about believing in any of these things, its just when you can tell it skews the research...
btw, Joseph Farrell one time taught at this extremely right wing fundamentalist christian school here where I live in orange county (and to call a school "extreme fundamentalist christian" is saying something because there is a lot of competition here..
anyway I guess i should have started my own thread
meh, Im feeling cynical today..
Cynicism is an indispensable tool to smell BS, I think Kara.
As with all such things, the trick - for me anyway - is to generally avoid the personalities (who always seem to develop a bit of a cult following) and just stick to the facts and curiosities and follow those "leads" instead.
Over the decades I've had any number of "Guru's" ( a dreadful word actually) and all ultimately fail because they're flawed humans just like the rest of us, and the lesson I took from this was to use from others what you can to advance your knowledge, understanding and insights. But apart from that you're on your own. Rightly so, I think.
Interesting what you say about Levenda's latest book. His trilogy was a masterpiece - or at least volume one was with much original research that was new to me. Volume two was a rehash, most of which I already knew - and volume 3 generally lost it's way, imo. I always assumed he was deeply involved in the occult even before he outed himself on the subject, just because that sort of thing can't be concealed if you're writing on a subject with some knowledge - but I wasn't aware he was directly involved in intelligence matters? Please let me know when you've finished The Hitler Legacy if it is still worth buying?
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14