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The Hidden Nazi: The Untold Story of America's Deal with the Devil.
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See comments in bubbles. I don't care to engage this line any further. Those that don't know about Kammler and things Kammler - Kammler stab and Kammler projects just don't know....and the Allies up to today have kept this all secret and even spun false stories to cover it all up.

James Lateer Wrote:Let me add the following points if I can:

1. IMHO the Nazis were NOT a month or two away from nuclear weapons or even a missile that could reach New York City.

Quote:Wrong. Read Reiner Karlsh's book - unfortunately only in German at this point. https://physicsworld.com/a/new-light-on-hitlers-bomb/

2. With Wernher von Braun in charge of missiles (and in the know about science), he would have known about any atom bombs or such missiles targeted on New York. If such things were impossible, he and Dornberger would have known that too.

Quote:Most all of von Braun's files in the USA by the USA intelligence and military are STILL classified and NOT available. That is true also of this brother Magnus few know about. Yes, I believe von Braun, Dornberger and Rudolf and others knew. I found the head of the second largest SS base in all of occupied Europe [was just south of Prague] to have also known and was able to draw diagrams not much different than the ones shown here https://physicsworld.com/a/new-light-on-hitlers-bomb/ - and know what they meant.

3. The very first atom bombs, "Fat Man" and "Little Boy" were so heavy and large that they barely fit into a B-29 bomber. So they would not have fit into a missile, maybe not even fit into the Saturn Five U.S. missile that launched the moon landing.

4. To get a small nuke for a missile, you had to use the Hydrogen Bomb because hydrogen is much lighter than uranium (or maybe plutonium). That technology didn't even exist until about 1952 when the Russians tested the first hydrogen bomb.

Quote:You are just not up on this subject and throwing out statements that don't go to the point of the matter. The Nazi plan B was to use their largest long-range bomber to carry a large bomb and drop it on NYC. They could reach it, but could not return and discussed trying to rescue the crew after they bailed out by submarine or sacrificing them. They also discussed using a dirty bomb - that was a nuke that sort of fizzled as far as explosive power, but was high on radiation none the less.

5. Hitler, Himmler, Dornberger, Von Braun and their henchmen knew that the War was lost. They knew it at the time of Stalingrad and after. They used the "secret weapons" fantasy as a fig leaf or cover story to prolong the War.

6. Even all the bombing of Europe by the US and the UK didn't put Germany out of the War. So even a few missiles or even a thousand missiles wouldn't have made any difference and the Nazi brass had to know that. Same situation regarding Japan.

Quote:Do not agree.
7. Hitler wanted to prolong the War until April, 1945 and beyond because he wanted all the Jews that could be killed to be killed. That was one of his goals.
Quote:Do not agree.

8. Hitler wanted the destruction of Prussia (which included 66% of Germany) because Prussia had been liberal and/or socialist. Hitler started and finished his mission on behalf of Austria (his home) and Bavaria (where he rose to power). These were the Catholic-majority regions of greater Germany. They also represented the centuries long struggle which began with the Protestant Reformation.

Quote:Where do you get these strange ideas from?
9. Because of taxpayer-supported religion, the Vatican got half of their income from Germany before World War II. Apparently, that had always been the case.

10. Hitler was indifferent whether Germany were to be partitioned and occupied by Soviet Communists or by US/UK "liberals" and socialists. Prussia, the US and the UK were Protestant. The USSR was atheist. So chopping off the Protestant parts of Germany was o.k. with Hitler.

10. Although Hitler was not (by any stretch) a practicing Catholic, he grew up as a Catholic and in a Catholic culture. So he knew how to beat the Catholics (and Christians including Protestants generally) at their own game. That's why he invented the "pomp and circumstance" of the Swastika, the Nuremberg rallies, the SS black uniforms, etc. etc. etc. Hitler knew that both Protestants and Catholics in Germany could be bought off with money. And that's the policy he cynically followed.

11. The creation of West Germany worked out perfectly for Hitler. West Germany under Adenauer was majority Catholic and started the Catholic original EEU along with Catholic France and Catholic Italy. They would have included Franco's Spain if they could have had their way. This reactionary religious pendulum had swung hundreds of times in German history and is probably still swinging today.

12. Adenauer and France opposed entry into the EEU of Britain and the Scandinavian countries as long as they could. They maintained control of the EEU until the JFK assassination and beyond. The UK joined the EEU in 1973.

13. The "Vatican hegemony" in Europe lasted from 1933 untll 1963 when JFK was killed. The JFK assassination was a last, desperate attempt to hang on to power. With the retirement of Adenauer in October, 1963, the Socialist SDP in Germany soon got into the government in Germany and the Protestant Ludwig Erhard became Chancellor in October, 1963.

Quote:Some of the above are too off the mark to try to comment on.

14. The incredible part of this history is that Hitler may well have survived World War II, living in exile in Chile, Ecuador or someplace like that. He may have had the last laugh, at least as long as he lived (or up until 1963 at least).

James Lateer
"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws. - Mayer Rothschild
"Civil disobedience is not our problem. Our problem is civil obedience! People are obedient in the face of poverty, starvation, stupidity, war, and cruelty. Our problem is that grand thieves are running the country. That's our problem!" - Howard Zinn
"If there is no struggle there is no progress. Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and never will" - Frederick Douglass
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The Hidden Nazi: The Untold Story of America's Deal with the Devil. - by Peter Lemkin - 15-06-2019, 07:32 AM

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