30-08-2018, 04:02 AM
I hope lots of people are reading this discussion about Trump and Fascism. I am learning by the day, almost by the hour.
Tonight on a 24-hour cable channel, I listened to an interview with a spokesman for ANTIFA--which apparently stands for anti-Fascist. Again, apparently, their modus operandi is to do violence to fascists. Their brand of violence is, again, apparently pretty much the same as Krystallnacht. And they, themselves, reserve the right to themselves define and label who is a fascist; and they maintain it could be anybody. They probably would label someone they didn't like as a fascist without reference to any dictionary, history book or encyclopedia. I don't see the difference between this and, say, Dr. Goebbels.
After about four rounds of discussion on this topic on this site, it looks more and more like those who are labeling others as fascists are really the closest thing to Hitler wannabees among the various factions on the current scene. It also smacks of the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). Un-American Activity meant something you don't like. Plain and simple.
As I have mentioned, this hits close to home since I have very close relatives (who I will not name) who have adopted certain features of this thinking. I would go further and say that almost all of my extended family is drunk at this point on the anti-Trump Kool-Aid.
What kind of freaks me out is when I read that Trump "must be gotten rid of fast". That sounds a little like how the JFK assassins probably thought about JFK. After spending four years of my life PROVING BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that card-carrying Nazis murdered JFK, I really can't accept as proper any advocacy of using their methods "to get rid of" an elected President.
They presumably didn't think our system of elections was up to the task of judging the danger presented by JFK. The judgment of 60 million voters wasn't as good as theirs and wasn't sufficient. They thought JFK had to "be gotten rid of". Personally, I believe their thinking just had to be literally insane. I mean literally insane. JFK was not a threat to anyone and didn't deserve anything worse than to lose the next election (if he was so bad).
If I had to, I would label Trump a semi-racist or half-racist. That's because he has labeled illegal immigrants as rapists and has implicitly called immigrants from Middle Eastern countries more likely than others to be terrorists. But Jimmy Carter has aggressively criticized Israel for lumping all Palestinians as terrorist accomplices and punishing them all for the sins of Hamas. Trump has banned travel, but he hasn't actually physically harmed terrorist related innocents as Israel has done.
And you can say the same exact thing about Congress voting sanctions against Iran. That hurts all Iranians, not just affiliates of Iranian terrorism. Because of the sanctions, some Iranian kids will go hungry. They wouldn't do that to Sweden, Switzerland or Canada. You could easily call the Iranian sanctions racist.
I've gotta believe that ten years from now, those who called for Trump "to be gotten rid of" will look back at their claims and feel embarrassed.
Since Nuremberg has been mentioned, I have to say that Nuremberg had legitimacy (to me) because we had two democratically elected governments (the US and the UK) putting on trial criminal thugs whose main sin was, first of all, destroying German democracy and using unlimited violence against people because of racialism. Those folks like Goring labelled people willy-nilly as Aryans, Jews, "Bible Students", and put them in "protective custody" (ie murdered them).
Once you get off the highway of reason and start writing up your own dictionary, then you are personal trouble with yourself. YOU CAN'T DECLARE WAR ON THE DICTIONARY!!!!! Folks have re-defined "truth", they have re-defined "propaganda" and now any thug on the street is given the license to redefine "fascist" to his own taste.
And the most sorry fact of all is that the ant-Trump Kool-Aid is being brewed up exclusively by the Globalists.
Globalists are not morally justified. Globalists are motivated by greed, desperately addicted to cheap labor and because of their addiction to cheap labor, they are the moral counterparts of the slave-owners of old.
To put it most simply, Trump "has to be gotten rid of" so the Globalists can maintain their bottomless supply of CHEAP LABOR. It's Trump's policy on trade and the illegal immigrant supply of cheap labor that is fueling the Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Trump is not a candidate for sainthood, but why would so many ultra-intelligent people (and so many of my well-educated close relatives) be so easily fooled by the Globalists into renouncing American democracy, to advocate Kristallnacht-type criminality, and to declare was on Webster's Dictionary?
I guess you don't dare say "no" to a Globalist. They will "get rid of you" by any means.
I hope lots of people are reading this or considering these disturbing issues.
James Lateer
Tonight on a 24-hour cable channel, I listened to an interview with a spokesman for ANTIFA--which apparently stands for anti-Fascist. Again, apparently, their modus operandi is to do violence to fascists. Their brand of violence is, again, apparently pretty much the same as Krystallnacht. And they, themselves, reserve the right to themselves define and label who is a fascist; and they maintain it could be anybody. They probably would label someone they didn't like as a fascist without reference to any dictionary, history book or encyclopedia. I don't see the difference between this and, say, Dr. Goebbels.
After about four rounds of discussion on this topic on this site, it looks more and more like those who are labeling others as fascists are really the closest thing to Hitler wannabees among the various factions on the current scene. It also smacks of the House Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC). Un-American Activity meant something you don't like. Plain and simple.
As I have mentioned, this hits close to home since I have very close relatives (who I will not name) who have adopted certain features of this thinking. I would go further and say that almost all of my extended family is drunk at this point on the anti-Trump Kool-Aid.
What kind of freaks me out is when I read that Trump "must be gotten rid of fast". That sounds a little like how the JFK assassins probably thought about JFK. After spending four years of my life PROVING BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT that card-carrying Nazis murdered JFK, I really can't accept as proper any advocacy of using their methods "to get rid of" an elected President.
They presumably didn't think our system of elections was up to the task of judging the danger presented by JFK. The judgment of 60 million voters wasn't as good as theirs and wasn't sufficient. They thought JFK had to "be gotten rid of". Personally, I believe their thinking just had to be literally insane. I mean literally insane. JFK was not a threat to anyone and didn't deserve anything worse than to lose the next election (if he was so bad).
If I had to, I would label Trump a semi-racist or half-racist. That's because he has labeled illegal immigrants as rapists and has implicitly called immigrants from Middle Eastern countries more likely than others to be terrorists. But Jimmy Carter has aggressively criticized Israel for lumping all Palestinians as terrorist accomplices and punishing them all for the sins of Hamas. Trump has banned travel, but he hasn't actually physically harmed terrorist related innocents as Israel has done.
And you can say the same exact thing about Congress voting sanctions against Iran. That hurts all Iranians, not just affiliates of Iranian terrorism. Because of the sanctions, some Iranian kids will go hungry. They wouldn't do that to Sweden, Switzerland or Canada. You could easily call the Iranian sanctions racist.
I've gotta believe that ten years from now, those who called for Trump "to be gotten rid of" will look back at their claims and feel embarrassed.
Since Nuremberg has been mentioned, I have to say that Nuremberg had legitimacy (to me) because we had two democratically elected governments (the US and the UK) putting on trial criminal thugs whose main sin was, first of all, destroying German democracy and using unlimited violence against people because of racialism. Those folks like Goring labelled people willy-nilly as Aryans, Jews, "Bible Students", and put them in "protective custody" (ie murdered them).
Once you get off the highway of reason and start writing up your own dictionary, then you are personal trouble with yourself. YOU CAN'T DECLARE WAR ON THE DICTIONARY!!!!! Folks have re-defined "truth", they have re-defined "propaganda" and now any thug on the street is given the license to redefine "fascist" to his own taste.
And the most sorry fact of all is that the ant-Trump Kool-Aid is being brewed up exclusively by the Globalists.
Globalists are not morally justified. Globalists are motivated by greed, desperately addicted to cheap labor and because of their addiction to cheap labor, they are the moral counterparts of the slave-owners of old.
To put it most simply, Trump "has to be gotten rid of" so the Globalists can maintain their bottomless supply of CHEAP LABOR. It's Trump's policy on trade and the illegal immigrant supply of cheap labor that is fueling the Trump Derangement Syndrome.
Trump is not a candidate for sainthood, but why would so many ultra-intelligent people (and so many of my well-educated close relatives) be so easily fooled by the Globalists into renouncing American democracy, to advocate Kristallnacht-type criminality, and to declare was on Webster's Dictionary?
I guess you don't dare say "no" to a Globalist. They will "get rid of you" by any means.
I hope lots of people are reading this or considering these disturbing issues.
James Lateer