13-12-2016, 06:56 PM
Tracy Riddle Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Dawn Meredith Wrote:David Guyatt Wrote:Perhaps it's only me who sees all of this as symptomatic that the great US neoliberal empire is crashing and burning and that its time is passing.
Nero, fiddle, fire.
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Nope it's not only you. However I am stunned by how many politically aware people are hanging on to the fake CIA story. People who should know better. And of course the real story here is the content of those emails. That has been lost in translation. Hillary lost because she was outed for who and what she is. What the DNC did to Bernie causing many Bernie supporters to refuse to support her at the polls.
Terrific articles Paul.
Yep, me too Dawn. Frankly, I'm staggered and it has opened my eyes quite a bit to the blinding effect of partisanship in politics. And yep, the whole point of the Russian did it campaign was, and remains, to deflect from the content of the emails. Now we have a new Russia did it campaign that also has zero factual validity and again the same people are falling over themselves to buy into that also.
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Guess what, David? I'm not a Democrat. I'm a registered Independent. Trump used to be a Democrat until a few years ago.
The whole point of the Russia did it campaign was to deflect from the content of the emails? Seriously? Why are so many Republicans going along with this? To help the Clintons?
Tracy, please present your evidence that Russia hacked the DNC email server and provided the data to Wikileaks.
Why do Republicans believe it? Who knows what goes through people's minds. Even so, I'm talking about facts, not belief. People used to believe the Earth was square. It's not. Mankind has an infinite ability to believe in all sorts of outlandish ideas. Doing so is their privilege, generally speaking. However, that doesn't make anything they believe true or even credible. As with the manufactured story that the Russians hacked the DNC email and leaked them to Wikileaks.
Allow me to respectfully repeat my post No. 38 above wherein Clapper said in his resignation address after the election that he - and US intelligence - "don't have good oversight of when or how Wikileaks obtained the hacked emails." Please explain to me how anyone can get around that statement?
When you take Clapper's statement and add it to those whistleblowers who emphatically state that the email leaks came from a disgruntled US intelligence worker - almost certainly from the NSA (given William Binney's comments on this subject), the Russia did it angle dissolves back into the smoke and mirrors that birthed it.
The shadow is a moral problem that challenges the whole ego-personality, for no one can become conscious of the shadow without considerable moral effort. To become conscious of it involves recognizing the dark aspects of the personality as present and real. This act is the essential condition for any kind of self-knowledge.
Carl Jung - Aion (1951). CW 9, Part II: P.14