17-04-2017, 10:30 PM
Lauren Johnson Wrote:I think it should be clear by now that saying LHO was on the first floor is not the same as saying the person on the top of the landing in the shade is Prayer Man/Woman. Please argue this on the basis first floor vs. second floor.
Lauren,
My post #12 in this thread cites several instances where Kamp uses his lunchroom encounter essay to suggest Oswald was on the landing. In his first paragraph Kamp says people think Oswald walked from the foyer to the lunchroom. He is clearly referencing Campbell's witnessing which he has previously used to defend Prayer Man being Oswald.
If you view my post #12 you'll see I cite several instances where Kamp is fudging his suggestion of Oswald being on the 1st floor with his being on the landing. In his second paragraph Kamp suggests the altercation occurred on the 1st floor. I think a more honest evaluation of what Kamp is doing would make both him and Jim answer for the fact suggesting this altercation happened on the 1st floor would then validate some kind of encounter. Your restriction here helps Kamp not answer what exactly he means by that? Does he mean Baker & Truly confronted Oswald in the lobby? Does he mean Baker & Truly confronted Oswald in the Domino Room? Jim avoids answering this because he knows it damages his position. Anyone who is well-versed on this subject knows Kamp's altercation claim requires a serious follow-through with qualifying detail. Kamp doesn't offer that because he knows he won't do well connecting the dots he just ran roughshod against. That's why he doesn't explain where exactly that 1st floor altercation occurred. No, I disagree Lauren. I think a more careful look at what Kamp is doing is he is being purposely vague in order to stretch this business back to the foyer and in turn suggest it happened in sequence with Oswald coming in from the landing. In my view that's clearly what he's doing. Here's why:
In his next example Kamp cites the Biffle article where Biffle clearly writes "In a storage room on the first floor, the officer, gun drawn, spotted Oswald." Jim is not being honest when he says Kamp is just trying to say 1st floor. My post #12 shows several examples where Kamp is clearly favoring the foyer, which in turn endorses the Prayer Man theory Kamp's ROKC website promotes. As far as I know Kamp has not disclaimed his lunchroom encounter evidence on ROKC as being separate. But even if he has he is still doing the things I cited here. His repeated examples in my post #12 clearly illustrate a latitudinal tendency that places Oswald in the foyer in synch with the Prayer Man claim. I believe the drawing of an arbitrary line denying this tendency would just be a denial of the more than obvious. To force an itemized restriction on information only aids those who are using deceptive tactics to not answer for their evasive methods. To help Kamp avoid those details with the overly broad limitation of 1st or 2nd floor would be an oversimplification that aids Kamp in not answering the better Deep Political evidence. He needs to answer where exactly he means by "1st floor".
Jim is not answering the particular details of my post #12 that show some real stretches of evidence Kamp is committing. I find that rather one-sided and dishonest.