Anatomy of the Second Floor Lunchroom Encounter

[LR Trotter]

Uh, Oh!

Baker's lips are moving again ---->

Mr. BELIN - You then got on the elevator to go on back down?
Mr. BAKER - That is correct.
Mr. BELIN - And I believe you said it was the east elevator, is that correct?
Mr. BAKER - That is correct.
Mr. BELIN - How far did you take the east elevator down?
Mr. BAKER - As we descended, somewhere around--we were still talking and I was still looking over the building.
Mr. BELIN - As the elevator was moving?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir; downward.
Mr. BELIN - All right.
Mr. BAKER - The next thing that I noticed was Inspector Sawyer, he was on one of those floors there, he is a police inspector.
Mr. DULLES - City of Dallas Police?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir. And he was on, I really didn't notice which floor he was on, but that is the first thing I saw as we descended how this freight elevator, you know, it has got these picket boards in front of it and it has got it open so far, and it seemed to me like we stopped for a moment and I spoke to him and I told him that I had been to the roof, and there wasn't anything on the roof that would indicate anybody being up there, and then we started on down.
Mr. BELIN - Did you stay on the elevator while you spoke to him?
Mr. BAKER - Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN - Do you remember what floor it was that you spoke to him on or how many floors down that you went from the top before you saw him?
Mr. BAKER - No, sir; not at that time. It seemed to me like it was on either the third or the fourth floor.
Mr. BELIN - Do you remember about how long you stayed on the roof?
Mr. BAKER - It was a little over 5 minutes.

A Locked roof.

Now, with Baker's testimony established, please keep in mind that he is positioned in the rear of the building riding on the East elevator, while in the next testimonythat of Inspector Sawyerthe Inspector is conducting a search in the front of the building (please note the elevator he gets on) ---->

Mr. BELIN. What did you do then?
Mr. SAWYER. Immediately went into---well, talked to some of the officers around there who told me the story that they had thought some shots had come from one of the floors in the building, and I think the fifth floor was mentioned, but nobody seemed to know who the shots were directed at or what had actually happened, except there had been a shooting there at the time the President's motorcade had gone by.
And I went with a couple of officers and a man who I believed worked in the building. The elevator was just to the right of the main entrance, and we went to the top floor, which was pointed out to me by this other man as being the floor that we were talking about. We had talked about the fifth floor. And we went back to the storage area and looked around and didn't see anything.
Mr. BELIN. Now you took an elevator up, is that correct?
Mr. SAWYER. That's right.
Mr. BELIN. The route that you took to the elevator, you went to the front door?
Mr. SAWYER. Right.
Mr. BELIN. Then what did you do?
Mr. SAWYER. We got into the elevator. We run into this man.
Mr. BELIN. Well, when you say you got into the elevator, where was the elevator as you walked in the front door?
Mr. SAWYER. It was to the right.

AF: meaning a front elevator--in front of the building, nowhere near the two freight elevators in the rear of the building.


Mr. BELIN. To the right?
Mr. SAWYER. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Was it a freight elevator or a passenger elevator?
Mr. SAWYER. The best of my recollection, it was a passenger elevator.
Mr. BELIN. Did you push for the top button in that elevator?
Mr. SAWYER. Well, I don't know who pushed it, but we went up to the top floor.
Mr. BELIN. You went up to the top floor that the elevator would go to?
Mr. SAWYER. That's right.
Mr. BELIN. You got off, and were there officers there?
Mr. SAWYER. There was one or two other officers with me.
Mr. BELIN. Now when you got off, you say you went into the back there into a warehouse area?
Mr. SAWYER. Storage area; what appeared to be a storage area.
Mr. BELIN. Did you go into any place other than a warehouse or storage area?
Mr. SAWYER. No.
Mr. BELIN. Was there anything other than a warehouse or storage area there?
Mr. SAWYER. Well, to one side I could see an office over there with people in it. Some women that apparently were office workers.
Mr. BELIN. Now Inspector, what did you do then?
Mr. SAWYER. Well, I didn't see anything that was out of the ordinary, so I immediately came back downstairs to check the security on the building. .

Questions:

How could Baker see and/or speak with the Inspector, while the Inspector was conducting a search on a front entrance passenger elevator?, while Baker & Truly--or so they say--are in the rear of the building?

Moreover, Why didn't Inspector Sawyer include Baker's remarks when directly asked this ---->

Mr. BELIN. You got off, and were there officers there?

No...he didn't encounter Baker, let alone anyone else in uniform, save for his specific response ---->

Mr. SAWYER. There was one or two other officers with me.

Three different lies now to add to the accumulating legion of lies about a phantom 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] floor encounter with the wrongly accused.

Somewhere Pinocchio has to be blushing. Mrs. Reid. Judas. Truly. Baker. Amazing what some people will do/say for thirty pieces of silver.

Who was that white helmeted motorcycle officer arriving up on the 5[SUP]th[/SUP] floor via the West elevator?, the same one Jack Dougherty made available by bringing it down to the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] floor.

[URL="https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh6/pdf/WH6_Sawyer.pdf"]

​For clarification, Inspector JH Sawyer's statement:
https://www.history-matters.com/archive/...Sawyer.pdf[/URL]