Familiar Faces in Dealey Plaza

[James H. Fetzer]

Bernice,

I wish there were an alternative explanation. If you review my posts on this thread, you will find that Allan was debunking the identification BEFORE he had conducted any research. Why? He has repeatedly cited the plaque or, in his more recent postings, the newspaper article. Why? Has anyone ever heard of receiving a plaque for being in a photograph? The plaque is such an obvious fake, even including the wrong date, how could anyone be taken in? You don't have to be an expert on JFK to see that it is a shoddy fraud.

Jack has shown by means of several studies that there are numerous basic differences in the facial features of Mainman and Adams. So why is Allan not responding to any of these points? The full body image photo may have been taken in Dealey Plaza, but bears no obvious relationship to the image of Mainmain immediately above JFK's head. And Allan has gone so far as to suggest that I am somehow complicit when I am trying to sort it all out. If you can tell me what's going on with him, then that would be wonderful!

Conein, of course, worked closely with Lansdale, whom we know was also there from the "tramp" photo, in which he was identified by Victor Krulak, fomer Commandant of the Marine Corps, and by Fletcher Prouty. Allan has tacked on a remark from Fletcher that says he is not absolutely certain it is Conein, but does not include the full text of the correspondence that may have induced Fletcher to qualify his opinion slightly. And James Richards told me recently that, if Landsdale was there, then Conein was probably there, too.

Jim

The issue of Mainman is being argued with more passion by all
than is necessary. IMO, Adams "resembles" Mainman, but without
further proof, is unlikely to be him. Mainman also has an
uncanny resemblance to Conein, but without further proof his
identification is not certain. IF Conein was a plotter, it is reasonable
to assume he has more reason to be there than Adams.

If asked to assign a probabllity, I would say:
Adams...20%
Conein...80%

Jack

PS: I think the plaque is a non-issue. It looks too "home-made"
to be evidentiary.

Hi JACK YOU ARE VERY SENSIBLE AND USING COMMON SENSE HERE IMO...THANK YOU...MAY I ASK YOU AS A THIRD PARTY NOT TO PUT YOU ON A SPOT BUT FROM WHAT I RECALL IN MY STUDIES ABOUT THIS AREA CONEIN ETC..IS THERE OR WHAT POSITIVE PROOF IS THERE THAT IS WAS CONEIN, FROM WHAT I RECALL HIS PRESENCE WAS BASED ON WHAT SOME THOUGHT WHO WERE VERY QUALIFIED LIKE COL PROUTY...WHO KNEW HIM OR OF HIM AND OTHERS THAT SIMPLY THOUGHT THEY BELIEVED IT WAS HIM FROM THE RESEMBLANCE IN THE PHOTO AND BY PHOTO COMPARISONS...YOU ARE CORRECT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT WOULD BE MORE LIKELY FOR SOMONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THE PLANNING OF TO BE THERE DURING THE ASSASSINATION, ON THE OTHER HAND AS DR.JIM HAS SUGGESTED AND THAT AGAIN IS MY OPINION ON WHAT IS BEING SAID..AND HAS BEEN...EXCUSE ME NOT BEING ARGUMENTATIVE DR.JIM BUT...THERE IS NOT A PRAYER IN HELL THAT ALLAN EAGLESHAM IS A DISINFO OR IS INVOLVED IN ANY SUCH PLAN..I KNOW THIS MAN HAVING WORKED WITH HIM FOR A FEW YEARS NOW AND THAT SUGGESTION IS WAY OUT THERE IMO..THANK YOU BOTH...TAKE CARE BEST B..SORRY CAPS THIS TIME OF NIGHT THAT'S ABOUT ALL I CAN DO WITHY MY HANDS IT IS MUCH EASIER..TA..B:banghead:

I have not done an in-depth study of Conein. Prouty told me that
Conein was in Dealey Plaza, and said he might have been in disguise.
Prouty at first thought he might be the man in the hardhat on Elm.
I am not certain he saw Mainman, but he knew Conein well and
would have recognized him. He had a theory that Conein would
want JFK to see him just as he was being shot, so that Kennedy
would KNOW who killed him.

Allan was the FIRST to say the Mainman was Conein, and then backed
off of identifying him when Adams was discovered.

I studied photos of Adams and because I did not know the ages of the
man in the comparison photos, I could reach no firm conclusion that
Adams was Mainman. I would need a 1963 photo for comparison.

I have previously stated my opinion of Adams vs Conein.

Jack

hi jack thnkyou for your reply..i believe it was martha allan's research partner that saw the photo on main and caught the conein resemblance and brought that about and as faR AS I KNOW HE ALLAN HAS NEVER REFERRED TO HIMSELF AS BEING A EXPERT IN ANYWAY IN IDING PEOPLE WITHIN THE PHOTOS..MOST OF THOSE i think correct me if in error allan ..THAT HAVE BEEN UPLOADED ONTO HIS SITE HAVE BEEN AND IS STATED JAMES RICHARD'S STUDIES NOT ALLAN'S....sorry i do not recall her last name now..but .i do recall now that you mention it and duh forget the elm street hardhatman's name as he has been id..but you did jar my memory of your studies way back thinking he may be conein..i attach a wee photo study comp you did i think .and .yes i agree it would be best if a 63 photo of adams was available...if...thanks again...best b..