07-04-2010, 09:51 PM
JIM REPLIES TO JACK WHITE ABOUT THE JUDYTH VARY THREAD
NOTE: Jack has abandoned the thread (or so he tells us) for a new
"Jim/Judyth" thread, which is dedicated to presenting "errors" in the
work of John Armstrong. I replied by re-posting about twenty of the
most important posts which present criticisms of HARVEY & LEE, so
he could forward them to John, one-by-one. Instead of doing that,
Jack accused me of "hijacking" his thread and created yet another,
"Jim/Judyth II", which he began with the comment to which I reply.
Every serious student of this case must read DR. MARY'S MONKEY.
JIM RESPONDS TO JACK:
Jack,
No matter what you are saying, this thread has exposed major problems
in the HARVEY & LEE scenario as well as explaining quite a lot about the
relationship between Judyth and Lee, who were collaborating with David
Ferrie and Dr. Mary Sherman in a project to develop an anti-cancer-virus
cure that became crucial when it was discovered that the polio vaccine
being use to inoculate around 100,000,000 children and young adults
was contaminated with the SV-40 virus, derived from the incubation of
batches for study in the kidneys of Rhesus monkeys. It is a fascinating
and remarkable story, which I am only now beginning to piece together.
It is my belief that you are abandoning the thread because you are not
able to cope with the arguments that have been posted, especially those
about the "missing tooth" and the presence of "Harvey" and "Lee" at the
same junior high school, the sole evidential basis for which is the report
of an elderly woman who seems to be a completely incompetent witness.
The idea that I "hijacked" your thread is rather ridiculous. I interpreted
your invitation as one to repost the posts in which challenges to the work
of John Armstrong had been presented. I therefore went through the
thread to pick out those that were most relevant, which I posted there.
My presumption was that you would send them to John, one at a time,
for his consideration. Why you can't see your way to do that is beyond
me. I believe that you are not only hostile to Judyth but have become
hostile to me. For all the years of our relationship, I have never seen
you act in such an obdurate and obstructionistic fashion. I have given
you what you need if you choose to contact John, namely, a collection of
the posts in which challenges to his work are presented. I didn't think in
my wildest dreams that I had to drag it out, one by one. So do with what
I presented as you will. There was no reason to reject what I have done.
The reason you are not reading these posts and learning from them, of
course, is that your mind has been closed on this subject since before
the thread began. I realize that you are not alone in failing to begin to
appreciate what Judyth is all about. Let me recommend that you could
take a giant step in the right direction by reading DR. MARY'S MONKEY,
in which Ed Haslam offers a fascinating exploration of the circumstances
that brought Judyth, Lee, Ferrie, Sherman, and Oechner together in one
of the most remarkable covert operations in American medical history.
Jim
P.S. Even simpler, tune in to revereradio.net this Friday from 5-7 PM/CT
and listen to Jesse Ventura for the first hour and Ed Haslam the second.
[quote name='Jack White' post='189065' date='Apr 7 2010, 04:36 AM']
Like the numerous others who have grown tired of this thread, I have
now found it counterproductive to read and/or reply to the 10,000+-word
daily treatises on the JVB stories and how accurate and marvelous
the research is. I have received over a half-dozen emails from researchers
saying what a waste of time the Jim/Judyth thread has become, and they
refuse to read any new postings. I just this evening received two more
messages of support; the people email me privately because they say
they cannot have a productive exchange with Jim.
I am starting this new thread which I hope will be limited to a single
subject....which Jim/Judyth have suggested:
"THE ERRORS OF JOHN ARMSTRONG."
Both have the book Harvey & Lee. I ask that if they wish to address
these "errors" that they do so in this thread, and with the following
limitations:
Address only "error" in one posting, thusly:
Error: LHO's Missing Tooth, cite pages in H&L.
Why Armstrong Is Wrong (100 words or less).
or:
Error: LHO Could Not Drive.
Why Armstrong Is Wrong (100 words or less).
Cite facts, not opinions.
(Lengthy cut and paste messages will be ignored!)
I will then attempt to reply to the alleged "error".
This is the ONLY thread in which I will respond to any postings
about JVB or H&L.
(Lengthy cut and paste messages will be ignored!)
This might contribute something to the investigation.
(Lengthy cut and paste messages will be ignored!)
Jack
DO NOT POST ANYTHING TO THIS THREAD WHICH DOES NOT MEET
THE ABOVE CRITERIA. IT WILL BE IGNORED.[/quote]
NOTE: Jack has abandoned the thread (or so he tells us) for a new
"Jim/Judyth" thread, which is dedicated to presenting "errors" in the
work of John Armstrong. I replied by re-posting about twenty of the
most important posts which present criticisms of HARVEY & LEE, so
he could forward them to John, one-by-one. Instead of doing that,
Jack accused me of "hijacking" his thread and created yet another,
"Jim/Judyth II", which he began with the comment to which I reply.
Every serious student of this case must read DR. MARY'S MONKEY.
JIM RESPONDS TO JACK:
Jack,
No matter what you are saying, this thread has exposed major problems
in the HARVEY & LEE scenario as well as explaining quite a lot about the
relationship between Judyth and Lee, who were collaborating with David
Ferrie and Dr. Mary Sherman in a project to develop an anti-cancer-virus
cure that became crucial when it was discovered that the polio vaccine
being use to inoculate around 100,000,000 children and young adults
was contaminated with the SV-40 virus, derived from the incubation of
batches for study in the kidneys of Rhesus monkeys. It is a fascinating
and remarkable story, which I am only now beginning to piece together.
It is my belief that you are abandoning the thread because you are not
able to cope with the arguments that have been posted, especially those
about the "missing tooth" and the presence of "Harvey" and "Lee" at the
same junior high school, the sole evidential basis for which is the report
of an elderly woman who seems to be a completely incompetent witness.
The idea that I "hijacked" your thread is rather ridiculous. I interpreted
your invitation as one to repost the posts in which challenges to the work
of John Armstrong had been presented. I therefore went through the
thread to pick out those that were most relevant, which I posted there.
My presumption was that you would send them to John, one at a time,
for his consideration. Why you can't see your way to do that is beyond
me. I believe that you are not only hostile to Judyth but have become
hostile to me. For all the years of our relationship, I have never seen
you act in such an obdurate and obstructionistic fashion. I have given
you what you need if you choose to contact John, namely, a collection of
the posts in which challenges to his work are presented. I didn't think in
my wildest dreams that I had to drag it out, one by one. So do with what
I presented as you will. There was no reason to reject what I have done.
The reason you are not reading these posts and learning from them, of
course, is that your mind has been closed on this subject since before
the thread began. I realize that you are not alone in failing to begin to
appreciate what Judyth is all about. Let me recommend that you could
take a giant step in the right direction by reading DR. MARY'S MONKEY,
in which Ed Haslam offers a fascinating exploration of the circumstances
that brought Judyth, Lee, Ferrie, Sherman, and Oechner together in one
of the most remarkable covert operations in American medical history.
Jim
P.S. Even simpler, tune in to revereradio.net this Friday from 5-7 PM/CT
and listen to Jesse Ventura for the first hour and Ed Haslam the second.
[quote name='Jack White' post='189065' date='Apr 7 2010, 04:36 AM']
Like the numerous others who have grown tired of this thread, I have
now found it counterproductive to read and/or reply to the 10,000+-word
daily treatises on the JVB stories and how accurate and marvelous
the research is. I have received over a half-dozen emails from researchers
saying what a waste of time the Jim/Judyth thread has become, and they
refuse to read any new postings. I just this evening received two more
messages of support; the people email me privately because they say
they cannot have a productive exchange with Jim.
I am starting this new thread which I hope will be limited to a single
subject....which Jim/Judyth have suggested:
"THE ERRORS OF JOHN ARMSTRONG."
Both have the book Harvey & Lee. I ask that if they wish to address
these "errors" that they do so in this thread, and with the following
limitations:
Address only "error" in one posting, thusly:
Error: LHO's Missing Tooth, cite pages in H&L.
Why Armstrong Is Wrong (100 words or less).
or:
Error: LHO Could Not Drive.
Why Armstrong Is Wrong (100 words or less).
Cite facts, not opinions.
(Lengthy cut and paste messages will be ignored!)
I will then attempt to reply to the alleged "error".
This is the ONLY thread in which I will respond to any postings
about JVB or H&L.
(Lengthy cut and paste messages will be ignored!)
This might contribute something to the investigation.
(Lengthy cut and paste messages will be ignored!)
Jack
DO NOT POST ANYTHING TO THIS THREAD WHICH DOES NOT MEET
THE ABOVE CRITERIA. IT WILL BE IGNORED.[/quote]