04-05-2010, 09:32 PM
David,
Citing Dean Hagerman on Judyth could hardy be less appropriate. His
understanding of this case is about as superficial as it comes--like yours!
Those who have actually spent time with Judyth believe in her. There is
no "demeanor" problem. You are pulling that out of you anal aperture.
Nigel Turned spend hundreds of hours with her. Howard Platzman spent
a huge amount of time with her--at this point, spanning years and years.
Edward Haslam interrogated her relentlessly. I have spent hundreds and
hundreds of hours in communication and dealing with her face to face.
Your shabby treatment of her is beneath contempt. If you believed in
your purported "evidence" you would share it with me. You have not.
We even did a YouTube on "The "Cancun/Kankun" Contretempts, but
apparently you have not watched it, typical of your conduct here.
I can't believe you have the nerve to show up here, time after time,
with these cheap comments that reiterate your indefensible stance.
You have a motive that drives you--to protect your investment in your
manuscript, which I presume has to be tossed if Judyth is correct.
You are not only discrediting your self with irresponsible remarks but
have not even shown the courage to state your take on HARVEY & LEE.
Why don't you come back when you have the integrity to share your
cassette, because I do not believe anything you say about Judyth.
My experience with her is overwhelmingly greater than yours, and I
am completely convinced that she is the person that she claims to be.
And there is no reason in the world to suppose that my conlcusion in
this matter should be inferior to yours, which is driven by self-interest.
Either come clean with your evidence or acknowledge that what you
can contribute has been far exceeded by the discussion on this thread.
I, like Nigel Turner, like Howard Platzman, like Edwar Haslam, all know
Judyth overwhelmingly better than do you. And all of us believe in her.
Jim
[quote name='David Lifton' post='191582' date='May 3 2010, 01:50 PM']
[quote name='Dean Hagerman' post='191519' date='May 2 2010, 03:58 PM']
Jim
I have just finished every video you posted with Judyth
I promise you I watched them with an open mind
I feel the exact same about Judyth after watching them Jim
She is not telling the truth
Just listen to her fantastic stories about meeting Hemming and him just telling Judyth about all of his activities like its no big deal
Just listen to her talk about David Ferrie and the fact that she was at his house for Parties and all this research, I mean come on there is no way in hell any of it is true
Jim I did what you asked, the videos have no evidence that Judyth and LHO were lovers
All they are is Judyth telling fairy tales[/quote]
Hello Dean,
What you wrote is (of course) subjective, but nonetheless, you're now getting a sense of exactly how I felt after speaking with Judyth on March 4, 2000. You've just had the "Judyth experience" on video. I had it "on audio." It was very unsettling, because it appeared so ridiculous, yet there were those who actually believed her. (And still do.)
As anyone knows who deals with witnesses, demeanor counts.
Completely aside from the factual problems, I found her demeanor to be "non-credible," to put it politely.
DSL
5/3/10; 4:45 AM PDT
Los Angeles, CA
[/quote]
Citing Dean Hagerman on Judyth could hardy be less appropriate. His
understanding of this case is about as superficial as it comes--like yours!
Those who have actually spent time with Judyth believe in her. There is
no "demeanor" problem. You are pulling that out of you anal aperture.
Nigel Turned spend hundreds of hours with her. Howard Platzman spent
a huge amount of time with her--at this point, spanning years and years.
Edward Haslam interrogated her relentlessly. I have spent hundreds and
hundreds of hours in communication and dealing with her face to face.
Your shabby treatment of her is beneath contempt. If you believed in
your purported "evidence" you would share it with me. You have not.
We even did a YouTube on "The "Cancun/Kankun" Contretempts, but
apparently you have not watched it, typical of your conduct here.
I can't believe you have the nerve to show up here, time after time,
with these cheap comments that reiterate your indefensible stance.
You have a motive that drives you--to protect your investment in your
manuscript, which I presume has to be tossed if Judyth is correct.
You are not only discrediting your self with irresponsible remarks but
have not even shown the courage to state your take on HARVEY & LEE.
Why don't you come back when you have the integrity to share your
cassette, because I do not believe anything you say about Judyth.
My experience with her is overwhelmingly greater than yours, and I
am completely convinced that she is the person that she claims to be.
And there is no reason in the world to suppose that my conlcusion in
this matter should be inferior to yours, which is driven by self-interest.
Either come clean with your evidence or acknowledge that what you
can contribute has been far exceeded by the discussion on this thread.
I, like Nigel Turner, like Howard Platzman, like Edwar Haslam, all know
Judyth overwhelmingly better than do you. And all of us believe in her.
Jim
[quote name='David Lifton' post='191582' date='May 3 2010, 01:50 PM']
[quote name='Dean Hagerman' post='191519' date='May 2 2010, 03:58 PM']
Jim
I have just finished every video you posted with Judyth
I promise you I watched them with an open mind
I feel the exact same about Judyth after watching them Jim
She is not telling the truth
Just listen to her fantastic stories about meeting Hemming and him just telling Judyth about all of his activities like its no big deal
Just listen to her talk about David Ferrie and the fact that she was at his house for Parties and all this research, I mean come on there is no way in hell any of it is true
Jim I did what you asked, the videos have no evidence that Judyth and LHO were lovers
All they are is Judyth telling fairy tales[/quote]
Hello Dean,
What you wrote is (of course) subjective, but nonetheless, you're now getting a sense of exactly how I felt after speaking with Judyth on March 4, 2000. You've just had the "Judyth experience" on video. I had it "on audio." It was very unsettling, because it appeared so ridiculous, yet there were those who actually believed her. (And still do.)
As anyone knows who deals with witnesses, demeanor counts.
Completely aside from the factual problems, I found her demeanor to be "non-credible," to put it politely.
DSL
5/3/10; 4:45 AM PDT
Los Angeles, CA
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