21-05-2010, 08:51 PM
Helen Reyes Wrote:Mother Jones "fact-checker" tries to confirm John Young quotes for smear campaign again wikileaks
http://cryptome.org/0001/mj-wl-show.htm
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I did not speak with David Kushner. He used remarks by me and
others from email messages on a private mail-list concerning
Wikileaks during its formation. These messages are here:
http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak.htm
I am the founder of Cryptome.org.
I was not tricked to serve as domain registrant, I willingly agreed
to do that. During further discussion of the initiative, as described
in the email messages cited above, I disagreed with the fund-raising
ambition, argument ensued, and I was replaced as registrant.
I was then unsubscribed from the private mail list.
However, because the subscriber list included me under a different
email address (not my doing) I continued to receive the private email
and enjoyed the remarks made about me. Those messages are here:
http://cryptome.org/wikileaks/wikileaks-leak2.htm
However, it is important to understand and report that my early
criticisms have been supplemented with admiration for Wikileaks,
as I have said in several public fora since the Collateral Murder video
was released.
Use any of this you like. It will be published on Cryptome.
Regards,
John
There's some priceless fun stuff at those links. Just goes to show how down-to-earth practical JY is too. Doesn't bear a grudge either.
They don't reflect too well on Assange or Kushner though, especially implying that age equals senility and a tendency to fall prey to 'conspiracy theories' - that knee-jerk garbage phrase again, as though it has any meaning at all beyond abuse. The impression is of brash young Turks of the kind the Spooks love to play with. The risk is they will end up as Spook tools and remain blissfully unaware - and or in denial of it.
The cocky - we'll show the bastards style is a big turn off for me but - hey ho - I'm sure they mean well. The Achilles heel of course lies in the naked ambition.
Still, they seem to be back so let's see how it goes.
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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