27-07-2010, 06:03 PM
Peter Lemkin Wrote:Sorry, I have to disagree at this point and with what I see and know and 'sense'. One too many wheels within the wheels in your position. I think this is a real whistleblower to a real whiistleblowing site and had really harmed the beast. Of course they will try to spin it as not 'any big deal'.....but I think they are terrified. There is NEWS [i.e. something new] in these revelations....maybe you and I had a sense of this, the public and the MSM did not...and now they have had their faces pushed in the crap and will have to face it and wash it off....and do something about the it - and the rest that is coming. We'll have to agree to disagree at this point.Peter
I think any disagreement is confined to my being a fence-sitter on the source and source motivation for providing this material (a very uncomfortable place to be I might add) and you judging it kosher.
I do not doubt the sincerity of Assange being determined to publish what the MSM reflexively colludes in hiding. I just agree with John Young. I think he is probably naive is his understanding of the methods, determination and overwhelming resources of the Spooks in dealing with him as a problem. That's all.
How he responds to their initiatives (assuming he sees them coming at all) is moot. My guess is he will refuse co-option - unless they are in a position to make him an offer he can't refuse, that is - but that his ambition will render him vulnerable to the vast range of alternative strategies at their disposal.
Nevertheless I wish him the very best of luck.
Peter Presland
".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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".....there is something far worse than Nazism, and that is the hubris of the Anglo-American fraternities, whose routine is to incite indigenous monsters to war, and steer the pandemonium to further their imperial aims"
Guido Preparata. Preface to 'Conjuring Hitler'[size=12][size=12]
"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied"
Claud Cockburn
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