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Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE?
Jim Hargrove Wrote:
Tracy Riddle Wrote:I think Douglas Horne and David Lifton are also opposed to Armstrong's theory. I don't know why. It has nothing to do with the body alteration theory.

That's correct on both counts.


From memory, and this was a long time ago, during his service at the ARRB, Doug Horne examined John Armstrong's evidence that there were three W-2 forms for Oswald that were faked, apparently by the FBI. There is a large amount of evidence here, and I will summarize just part of it. Let's look at one of the three pre-Marine Corps employers of "Lee Harvey Oswald," Dolly Shoe.

Here is one of the three W-2 forms John believes was forged.

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Dolly Shoe Co. discontinued business in November 1957. The owner of the company was Maury Goodman. In 1995, Mr. Goodman was still alive and at John Armstrong's suggestion Goodman wrote to the IRS inquiring about its tax number creation date. Here is the response he received:

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So, in a written response to Mr. Goodman on IRS letterhead, IRS official Della Sanford indicated that the tax ID numbers in questions were apparently issued in January 1964 (seven years after Dolly Shoe was dissolved and even longer since "Oswald" allegedly worked for the company). There were a number of other issues related to this, but I don't remember them all.

A ten or fifteen year old version of my web page describing all this can all be found here:




Now let's move ahead a year or so....

During the ARRB investigation, Mr. Horne wrote to the IRS asking if the tax records for Lee Harvey Oswald now in the National Archives were fakes. An IRS official named, from memory, Aileen Summerlin (sp?), provided the predictable response. Doug wrote a 200 page memo, based on this type of research, concluding that John Armstrong was wrong.


A quick reality check: John has advised me, again and again, that whenever you submit documents about "Lee Harvey Oswald" to any government agency for analysis, to be sure to black out the Oswald name, otherwise, according to John, "everything gets weird." With this in mind, I blacked out Oswald's name on the best copies I could get of the three W-2 forms in question and sent them to the leading type font specialist for IBM, a lady named Dawn Stanford. During our phone talk, Ms. Stanford advised me that, in her opinion, the three W-2 forms in question, from three different companies, were typed on the same machine, one with an odd font that she couldn't locate in her extensive files.

There is a very simple proof that the three W-2 forms John believes are fakes are indeed fakes, and that is that if you check the Social Security Administration "Lifetime Earnings Report" for "Lee Harvey Oswald," NONE of "Oswald's" pre-Marine Corps earnings are included. The HSCA was actually perplexed by this, and wrote a letter to the SSA asking about it. In it's response, Robert Bynum from the SSA wrote that he was including "Copies of three pages of the Warren Commission Report re employment of Lee Harvey Oswald prior to service in the Marine Corps." I'm not making this stuff up. Copies of all these document are reproduced here:



During his November in Dallas 1998 conference, John was scheduled to talk immediately after either Mr. Lifton or Mr. Horne (I can't remember which). But as the start time for John's speech came and passed, David Lifton and Doug Horne began an endless colloquy that delayed John's talk into the late hours of the evening. John's presentation at NID 97 had created a sensation, and many in the audience were looking forward to his speech. John had also brought along Palmer McBride and several other "Oswald" eyewitnesses to the conference. These were, even by then, elderly men, and the late hour when John finally was allowed by Debra Conway to speak made their presentations less powerful than they could have been.

Please pay attention to John Armstrong's work. If and when the truth of this case was finally exposed, who here thinks there would be anything but an unearthly roar of criticism!

The only way anyone can ignore or discount JA's work is to ignore stunning proof such as this. And I am not sure ego is the reason. Nuff said. ::headbang::
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Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE? - by Dawn Meredith - 18-03-2015, 05:37 PM

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