Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE?

[David Josephs]

The "short dumpy" Marguerite is the mother of brothers Robert Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald, and John Pic. The other Marguerite is alleged by John Armstrong to be the mother of his alternate "LEE Oswald."

John Pic accurately identifies Lee Harvey Oswald from the pictures John Armstrong calls "HARVEY," but doesn't claim that the pictures of the person John Armstrong calls "LEE" are pictures of his brother.

The brothers John Pic and Robert do not seem to part of any plot.

This post is a bit mixed up with it's offer of facts....

Starting at the end, while John may or may not be involved, Robert was most assuredly involved. Between the Bronx zoo photo up to the finding of the grey camera and other evidence in Robert's possession we really cannot discount how much Robert looked like Harvey (but not as much like LEE)

John Pic accurately identifies Lee Harvey Oswald from the pictures John Armstrong calls "HARVEY," but doesn't claim that the pictures of the person John Armstrong calls "LEE" are pictures of his brother.

First off the identifications are not JOHN's, they are question asked of Pic by the WC while being shown pictures published in LIFE magazine and John most definitely picks out his brother from Harvey:

Mr. JENNER - The next one is prominent; in front is a picture of a young boy. There is a partially shown girl and apparently another boy with a striped shirt in the background. Do you recognize that picture?
Mr. PIC - Yes; I recognize that as Lee Harvey Oswald.

Mr. JENNER - Then to the right there is a picture of two young men, the upper portion of the one young man at the bottom and then apparently a young man standing up in back of that person. Do you recognize either of those young people?
Mr. PIC - Yes; I recognize Lee Harvey Oswald.

Mr. JENNER - Did you have the impression when you saw him on Thanksgiving of 1962 that in the meantime he had become embittered, resentful of his station?
Mr. PIC - Well, sir; the Lee Harvey Oswald I met in November of 1962 was not the Lee Harvey Oswald I had known 10 years previous.

The "short dumpy" Marguerite is the mother of brothers Robert Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald, and John Pic. The other Marguerite is alleged by John Armstrong to be the mother of his alternate "LEE Oswald."

The TALL MARGUERITE is the mother of all three boys including LEE. the SHORT MO's identity is unknown yet has been speculated upon. The man RUBY killed was NOT related to Lee Oswald - whether he was related to his caretaker is unknown. According to what we've learned, the boy/man playing HARVEY was not American, English was his second language, and he spoke Russian with a distinctly Soviet accent. Little Harvey also NEVER spoke with a southern accent but a north eastern NY type accent while LEE was known to have sported the southern accent based on those who knew him.

Another Beauregard classmate who knew Harvey Oswald was EdCollier who recalled, "We called him Yank because he had a Yankeeaccent."9 !t is now easy to see that Ed Collier knew Harvey Oswald, from New York, in the 8thgrade at Beauregard in the spring of 1954. Lee Oswald, who was born in New Orleans and raisedin Fort Worth, had a southern accent.


Edward J. Pic and Marguerite Claverie were married in Harrison County, Mississippi on August 8, 1929. During their first year of marriage the couple rented a house on Genois Street, south of Canal Street, and in the spring of 1931 Marguerite became pregnant.

Six months after Marguerite and Eddie Pic were separated she gave birth to her first child, John Edward Pic, on January 17, 1932. When John Pic was baptized two weeks later, on January 31, his sponsors were Charles and Lillian Murret Marguerite Oswald's sister and her husband).6 John Pic's father, Edward J. Pic, provided child support for his son in the amount of $40 per month until John turned 18, in January 1950.7 The short, dumpy, heavy-set "Marguerite Oswald" imposter who testified before the Warren Commission said that Pic had given her only $18 per month, which was not true. This woman also told the Commission, "He left me after I had my first born," which was also not true. John
Pic and the real Marguerite Oswald were separated six months before she gave birth, but the woman who testified before the WarrenCommission did not know that.

The SHORT MARGIE's identity is not officially known yet John and I have talked about it being

Margaret Keating Oswald was the first wife of Robert E. L. Oswald (father of Robert and Lee Harvey Oswald), whom she divorced in 1933. The court restored her last name to Keating, her maiden name, which she kept for the remainder of her life (she apparently never remarried). The name Margaret Keating and her address, 120 N. Telemachus Street, appear in New Orleans City Directories, telephone books, voter registration records, etc., from 1933 thru the early 1960's.
In the 1956 New Orleans City Directory, which records listings for the last half of 1955, the directory listed her as "Margt. Oswald," 120 N. Telemachus Street, New Orleans. 55-21 This is the only occasion where the name "Margaret Keating" appears as Margt. Oswald-a name she had not used for the past 23 years. Perhaps this was a mistake, but perhaps not. These two listings appear during the time that both the short, dumpy heavy-set "Marguerite Oswald" imposter (whose troe identity remains unknown) and the tall, nice-looking Marguerite Oswald lived in New Orleans

NOTE: Margaret Keating, who was 58 years old in 1954 and 67 years old in 1963,
could have been the "Marguerite Oswald" imposter, but that possibility will not be explored
or discussed in this book. For serious researchers, a telephone number and address
were listed for Margaret Keating as late as 1996 in Baton Rogue (she was 100 in 1996).