Anyone want to discuss HARVEY & LEE?

[Jim Hargrove]

The "short dumpy" Marguerite is the mother of brothers Robert Oswald, Lee Harvey Oswald, and John Pic.

OK, Drew, now that I understand your point-of-view here....

Yes, the woman who gave the WC testimony said she was the mother of Robert, LHO, and John Pic (with a different father for Pic). But at various points in her testimony (you can tell even from the print transcript) she was obviously reading from a script. It is also incredible how many simple errors about her so-called family she made so many times in her "career" as a fake mommy, even when she was quite a bit younger and should have had a better memory. For example (from JA's 1997 Dallas speech):

While Oswald was in the Youth House, his [fake] mother met with Probation

Officer John Carro. Marguerite told Carro she was the youngest of 6

children, yet there were 5 children in the Claverie family. She gave Lee

Oswald's father's name as Robert Lee Harvey, when his real name was

Robert Edward Lee Oswald. She said Lee's father died at age 45, yet we

know he was 41 years old when he died. She gave her marriage date as July

19, 1929, yet she married Robert Oswald in 1933. She gave her sister's

name as Lillian Sigouerette, when we know her sister's name was Lillian

Murrett. She said she formerly owned a house in Corning, Texas yet there

is not and never has been a "Corning," Texas. She gave Lee Harvey

Oswald's birth date as October 19 when the correct date was October 18th.

She said Lee was baptized at the Trinity Lutheran Church in New Orleans,

when the records show he was baptized at the Redeemer Lutheran Church in

New Orleans. When she was asked whether Lee's father was right or left

handed she replied "I do not remember, sir" (Warren Commission

testimony). There is no reason for a 45 year old woman to make these kind

of errors concerning her background. Had she forgotten, was she lying, or

was this person truly Lee's mother?

The other Marguerite is alleged by John Armstrong to be the mother of his alternate "LEE Oswald."

Yes, John believes the real Marguerite Oswald was the mother of the American-born Lee Harvey Oswald.

John Pic accurately identifies Lee Harvey Oswald from the pictures John Armstrong calls "HARVEY," but doesn't claim that the pictures of the person John Armstrong calls "LEE" are pictures of his brother.

No, that's backwards. John Pic accurately identified pictures John's research shows were of the real, American-born Lee Harvey Oswald, Pic's actual half-brother. Pic swore he failed to recognize photographs of "Harvey Oswald," the boy John believes was a Russian-speaking European orphan brought to the United States and eventually killed by Jack Ruby. This person had no blood relation whatsoever to John Pic.

The brothers John Pic and Robert do not seem to part of any plot.

Robert clearly knew about the mixed identities of Harvey and Lee. Both persons lived with him briefly at times. I very much doubt he had any foreknowledge of the assassination plot.

John Pic had a different father than Robert Oswald and Lee Harvey Oswald.

Agreed.