08-05-2015, 11:42 PM
Albert Doyle Wrote:Gordon Gray Wrote:There is a line of thinking that the Secret Team wanted to scotch the Peace talks between Ike and Nikita, and since the U2 was becoming obsolete, the shoot down was fortuitous if not planned. Oswald could have well been sent to provide the info necessary. Also Marina has been helpful to Soviet interests, in giving credence to Oswald the lone nut. They certainly wanted no suspicions to be cast upon them even if they were indeed innocent.
Which would make more sense because once Oswald completed this operation he was a spent entity since he would have so much attention on him it would be hard for him to get away with anything on either side. That fits the motive and method of the shadow government and its need to prevent detente. And also its need to position itself for the pre-emptive nuclear attack on the Soviet Union it proposed to Kennedy.
Having tested the viability of a doubles program with this U-2 operation Oswald would then become highly useful in a set-up of Cuba in the assassination of JFK.
What I don't understand is why they would let Judyth Baker live if what she says is true? Other people on the Hit List were killed for much less. And Baker was allegedly invisible and therefore would be unmissed if she were murdered.
It's a good question Albert - my feeling is that regardless of the truth or not, there was little effect this info would have on the assassination conclusions or conspiracy to incriminate Oswald.
Kinda like the unnecessasy piling on of the Oswald is Innocent project...
We already know he was innocent... Prayerman identified as Oswald would of course make that point irrefuteable. Whether Altgens is altered to cut Ozzie out and put Lovelady in remains a matter of debate and very poor math and can never be fully resolved. But we have more than enough material to make a strong case against Oswald pulling the JFK trigger.
JVB's info changes nothing about what occurs on Nov 22nd... only what history says about Oswald. All one need do is say she's mistaken about seeing Lee in Feb 1962 and there's little to be said to further support there being two Oswalds in Feb 1962 - on ein the US and one in Minsk... Since no one blieves that in the first place, JVB's 2nd hand evidence about it is of no concern to those who would be charged with removing her.
Fetzer offered 14 reasons to believe Baker... these are the only three which deal with actual evidence. the other 11 reasons are testimonials basically asking "Why else would they say this if her story wasn't true" and "She has this thing that was Oswald's so it must be true"...
http://jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/2010/03/...-vary.html - Maybe something has changed since 2010? Interestingly, the vido of Anna Lewis is not longer posted at this site.
REASON #1. Documents and researchers prove Baker and Oswald worked together for months at Wm. B. Reily Co., a coffee company in New Orleans, and that these jobs were pre-arranged cover jobs (W-2 and her word)
REASON #2: Baker has the testimonies of living witnesses confirming her intimate relationship with Oswald in New Orleans (Anna Lewis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyN37x3OfHs )
REASON #6: Baker provides evidence that her job and Oswald's job at Reily's were cover jobs for clandestine activities elsewhere (W-2 and her word)
Once in a while you get shown the light
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter
in the strangest of places if you look at it right..... R. Hunter