27-06-2011, 06:31 PM
William Kelly Wrote:I just don't understand those liberals and radicals who take pride in opposing the US government and military on the one hand, and reject the democratic Arab revolt to support tyrants on the other.
Either you are with the revolution or you are with the tyrants, and there's no three ways about it.
Bill Kelly
Bill - I have little interest in Bilderbergers, and do not believe their meetings to be any sort of "omnipotent guiding hand".
However, I reject your stark choice above. It is reminiscent of the "you're either with us or against us" lies of Dubya Bush's regime.
If we examine the Libyan "revolution", we find that it is clearly led by elements that until a few months ago would have been denounced as "Al Qaeda" (whatever that means), and is being manipulated shamelessly by western propagandists posing as MSM journalists.
See the DPF thread here.
Some of the NATO attacks "to protect citizens" have almost certainly been on facilities which harbour evidence of western provision of weapons, including chemical weapon precursors.
The usual banker suspects - including eg France's Société Générale, Goldman Sachs, HSBC and Nomura - are wading about in blood money, and trying to seize bank accounts and other assets from the Libyan people to cover up their money laundering and corruption.
Gaddafi's death will be no loss to humanity. However, western leaders have variously declared him to be a "terrorist bogeyman", a "great reforming leader" fit to be embraced by PM Tony Blair, and now he's back to being a "war criminal rapist" according to a crude NATO psyop.
Depending on how pliable to western interests the old goat was being.
Libya is simply another War for Oil, to allow western multinationals to control a supply of a depleting resource. The end result will be a wasteland with a destroyed infrastructure, sand and streets ridden with depleted uranium, children born to dead fathers, mothers burying children, brothers, sisters.
Western leaders use "democracy" as part of a psyop to persuade their citizens that these are legitimate "interventions". They are no such thing. All the military-multinational-intelligence complex wants is puppet regimes, willing to do as they're told.
Iraq and Afghanistan reminded us of this. In case we'd forgotten.
I remember cringing at various Bush women and Hillary Clinton banging on about "women's rights" in Afghanistan, and how the Taliban were evil predatory males.
The Taliban will form the next government of Afghanistan.
"It means this War was never political at all, the politics was all theatre, all just to keep the people distracted...."
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war
"Proverbs for Paranoids 4: You hide, They seek."
"They are in Love. Fuck the War."
Gravity's Rainbow, Thomas Pynchon
"Ccollanan Pachacamac ricuy auccacunac yahuarniy hichascancuta."
The last words of the last Inka, Tupac Amaru, led to the gallows by men of god & dogs of war