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			<title><![CDATA[Updates on 911 Truth]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16418</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2025 15:58:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[This Forum was dormant for a long time, so it is time to update many of the threads. Here is one updating some of the subjects related to 911. It is a recording of a live zoom presentation by Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth - a group without anyone personally 'dynamic', but great facts and evidence!<br />
They are also at the forefront of several legal challenges with the Lawyers Committee for 911 Truth to force the government to release hidden information, evidence, footage, etc.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This Forum was dormant for a long time, so it is time to update many of the threads. Here is one updating some of the subjects related to 911. It is a recording of a live zoom presentation by Architects and Engineers for 911 Truth - a group without anyone personally 'dynamic', but great facts and evidence!<br />
They are also at the forefront of several legal challenges with the Lawyers Committee for 911 Truth to force the government to release hidden information, evidence, footage, etc.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Niederhut And Controlled Demolition]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16413</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2024 18:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=1658">Brian Doyle</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Moderator Niederhut is arguing that controlled demolition is a given over on The Education Forum...Because James Gordon is abusing his moderator power I am not allowed to enter that thread and tell Niederhut what he needs to hear...<br />
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If you watch the close-up shots of the South Tower when it buckled you can see stringer girders deforming with up to a 6 foot sag prior to the collapse...Those steel beams sagged due to heat and overloading...When they gave out the top section collapsed on to the bottom structure...You can tell it was from structural failure because the top section listed eastward in to the damaged area...Videos showed a bulging of the outside of the building as the structure failed...This was precipitated by structural failure and heat weakening and not by thermite cutting packs...<br />
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This is reinforced by the fact the South Tower fell first even though it was hit 15 minutes after the North Tower...If the collapse was controlled they would have set off the thermite in the North Tower in correct sequence...The reason the South Tower went first is because the damage undercut one side and caused greater stress through imbalance and more fuel in the larger 767...Better analysts will tell you this alone shows it fell from structural damage exacerbated by heat...You don't need to melt steel...You just need to weaken it...<br />
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The reason the Towers collapsed is because the inner core-outer frame design relied on a hanging floor truss that was connected to the outer frame by a 3 inch metal cleat...When the top section collapsed its mass was resisted by that 3 inch cleat that instantly gave way and started a chain reaction of pancaking floor sections that shot down through the void...Niederhut does not understand that the hollow inside the Tower was like a downward gun barrel through which the plug of floor sections shot...As this flat-bottomed plug was pushed down like a piston on to the next floor below it created a surge of powerfully compressed air of tremendous force that unzipped the core frame as it shot downward...You can see a wave shoot down the Tower exterior preceeding the collapse...That was the plug of floors unzipping the core frame and allowing free fall...<br />
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Building 7 was most likely intentionally demo-ed and 9-11 was definitely a false flag attack designed to trigger the PNAC plan, but the main Towers fell on their own IMO...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Moderator Niederhut is arguing that controlled demolition is a given over on The Education Forum...Because James Gordon is abusing his moderator power I am not allowed to enter that thread and tell Niederhut what he needs to hear...<br />
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If you watch the close-up shots of the South Tower when it buckled you can see stringer girders deforming with up to a 6 foot sag prior to the collapse...Those steel beams sagged due to heat and overloading...When they gave out the top section collapsed on to the bottom structure...You can tell it was from structural failure because the top section listed eastward in to the damaged area...Videos showed a bulging of the outside of the building as the structure failed...This was precipitated by structural failure and heat weakening and not by thermite cutting packs...<br />
<br />
This is reinforced by the fact the South Tower fell first even though it was hit 15 minutes after the North Tower...If the collapse was controlled they would have set off the thermite in the North Tower in correct sequence...The reason the South Tower went first is because the damage undercut one side and caused greater stress through imbalance and more fuel in the larger 767...Better analysts will tell you this alone shows it fell from structural damage exacerbated by heat...You don't need to melt steel...You just need to weaken it...<br />
<br />
The reason the Towers collapsed is because the inner core-outer frame design relied on a hanging floor truss that was connected to the outer frame by a 3 inch metal cleat...When the top section collapsed its mass was resisted by that 3 inch cleat that instantly gave way and started a chain reaction of pancaking floor sections that shot down through the void...Niederhut does not understand that the hollow inside the Tower was like a downward gun barrel through which the plug of floor sections shot...As this flat-bottomed plug was pushed down like a piston on to the next floor below it created a surge of powerfully compressed air of tremendous force that unzipped the core frame as it shot downward...You can see a wave shoot down the Tower exterior preceeding the collapse...That was the plug of floors unzipping the core frame and allowing free fall...<br />
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Building 7 was most likely intentionally demo-ed and 9-11 was definitely a false flag attack designed to trigger the PNAC plan, but the main Towers fell on their own IMO...]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Excellent book on 911 & Anthrax Attacks]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16409</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:53:21 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[MacQueen was the top researcher on the Anthrax Attacks'  keyhole in which to peer to clearly see the total falsehood of the official cover-up story. Sadly, MacQueen died not long ago at a very young age. Here is an ebook summarizing his work, which I consider essential to understanding the largest false-flag event since World War II.<br />
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<a href="https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Sep11PentagonsBMovie/PentagonsBMovie.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size">MacQueen-911-Anthrax-Attacks</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[MacQueen was the top researcher on the Anthrax Attacks'  keyhole in which to peer to clearly see the total falsehood of the official cover-up story. Sadly, MacQueen died not long ago at a very young age. Here is an ebook summarizing his work, which I consider essential to understanding the largest false-flag event since World War II.<br />
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<a href="https://ratical.org/ratville/JFK/Sep11PentagonsBMovie/PentagonsBMovie.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="font-size: x-large;" class="mycode_size">MacQueen-911-Anthrax-Attacks</span></a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[New Film on WTC-7]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16406</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Nov 2024 20:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[BROOKHAVEN AND THE TWIN TOWERS]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16392</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2024 00:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=1142">Richard Gilbride</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="https://jfkinsidejob.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/BROOKHAVEN-AND-THE-TWIN-TOWERS.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://jfkinsidejob.com/wp-content/uplo...TOWERS.pdf</a><br />
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This essay makes the case that the directed-energy weapon that brought down the World Trade Center towers was the particle accelerator at Brookhaven National Laboratory. It is highly recommended that you watch this 3-minute video as an introduction:<br />
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwWk_gz-tQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwWk_gz-tQ</a><br />
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The essay is 25 pages with over 40 photographs. It synopsizes Dr. Judy Wood's 2010 book <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Where Did the Towers Go?</span></span>  and then extends it into the realm of advances in laser physics discovered by the Strategic Defense Initiative. These advances, coupled with the geo-engineered Hurricane Erin, were used to molecularly dissociate the Twin Towers.]]></description>
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This essay makes the case that the directed-energy weapon that brought down the World Trade Center towers was the particle accelerator at Brookhaven National Laboratory. It is highly recommended that you watch this 3-minute video as an introduction:<br />
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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwWk_gz-tQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwwWk_gz-tQ</a><br />
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The essay is 25 pages with over 40 photographs. It synopsizes Dr. Judy Wood's 2010 book <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Where Did the Towers Go?</span></span>  and then extends it into the realm of advances in laser physics discovered by the Strategic Defense Initiative. These advances, coupled with the geo-engineered Hurricane Erin, were used to molecularly dissociate the Twin Towers.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[My 9-11 Witnessing - True Story]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16323</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Apr 2023 20:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=1658">Brian Doyle</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<span style="color: #050505;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI Historic', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">In the spring of 2001 I was walking to the whirlpool spa at our community pool for my evening dip in the hot tub...When I got to the end of my driveway I noticed a mid-sized smallish car driving by with two dark-complected individuals with strange expressions on their faces...The car may have been a red Pontiac Grand Prix, I'm not really sure...From their look and expressions the first thought that came to my mind is "those guys look like arab terrorists"...You had to be </span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI Historic', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">there to catch the frozen moment of the vibe that was translated to me from seeing those guys as they drove by...At that time of the year the setting sun comes down my street just perfectly so the inside of the car and them were lit up in a particularly illuminating way that only added to the experience...I pondered the weirdness of it and kept walking to the hot tub...When I got a few houses further down the street an Audi (or similar french make) appeared with two men in tan trench coats in the front seats...If you were to make a movie where you were trying to dress two spooks in trench coats to make them look like classic spies that is what these guys looked like...I looked at them and they were zoned on the two guys in the car ahead of them in a strange sort of a trance...The sun was evening lighting directly down the street so it went deep in to their eyes and lighted the inside of the car in a way that only enhanced the effect...The two spooks did not take their eyes off the car ahead once in the whole time they passed me...They were strongly transfixed on that car...The two greying men were in their early 60's which makes me think these were senior Intel agents, the type who would be trusted with the highest level assignments...Of course I didn't think that as they passed...All I thought at the time was "Those guys are definitely tracking those two other guys and I definitely just witnessed something strange"...I shrugged my shoulders and went to the hot tub for a relaxing whirlpool...On September 11th I was sleeping late and woke to the phone ringing...My parents were driving on their way to a visit in New York and were somewhere around Baltimore...They called me to find out if I had heard about the attack...I shook off my drowsiness and turned on CNN on the little kitchen TV...I immediately thought to myself that the 1993 terrorists had "finished the job"...Over the course of that day photos of the terrorists started appearing in the media...I can't remember how long it took for it to come back to me but that one suicide pilot Mohammed Atta had a particularly unique "Frankenstein" look to his face...It was bugging me that I had seen it somewhere before and eventually it came back to me that he was the guy driving that first car that I saw when I got to the end of the driveway...I think the passenger was Shehhi...I didn't get as good a look at the passenger but he was definitely one of his cohorts...This is not as crazy as it sounds because the light airport where they trained in Cessna's is only 30 miles from here...I have never made this public because I didn't want to get killed or be taken as a nut...But there is no doubt that Atta and maybe Shehhi were well on the radar of some government's Intelligence agency months before the attack...</span></span></span>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<span style="color: #050505;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI Historic', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">In the spring of 2001 I was walking to the whirlpool spa at our community pool for my evening dip in the hot tub...When I got to the end of my driveway I noticed a mid-sized smallish car driving by with two dark-complected individuals with strange expressions on their faces...The car may have been a red Pontiac Grand Prix, I'm not really sure...From their look and expressions the first thought that came to my mind is "those guys look like arab terrorists"...You had to be </span></span><span style="font-size: 12pt;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: 'Segoe UI Historic', 'Segoe UI', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font">there to catch the frozen moment of the vibe that was translated to me from seeing those guys as they drove by...At that time of the year the setting sun comes down my street just perfectly so the inside of the car and them were lit up in a particularly illuminating way that only added to the experience...I pondered the weirdness of it and kept walking to the hot tub...When I got a few houses further down the street an Audi (or similar french make) appeared with two men in tan trench coats in the front seats...If you were to make a movie where you were trying to dress two spooks in trench coats to make them look like classic spies that is what these guys looked like...I looked at them and they were zoned on the two guys in the car ahead of them in a strange sort of a trance...The sun was evening lighting directly down the street so it went deep in to their eyes and lighted the inside of the car in a way that only enhanced the effect...The two spooks did not take their eyes off the car ahead once in the whole time they passed me...They were strongly transfixed on that car...The two greying men were in their early 60's which makes me think these were senior Intel agents, the type who would be trusted with the highest level assignments...Of course I didn't think that as they passed...All I thought at the time was "Those guys are definitely tracking those two other guys and I definitely just witnessed something strange"...I shrugged my shoulders and went to the hot tub for a relaxing whirlpool...On September 11th I was sleeping late and woke to the phone ringing...My parents were driving on their way to a visit in New York and were somewhere around Baltimore...They called me to find out if I had heard about the attack...I shook off my drowsiness and turned on CNN on the little kitchen TV...I immediately thought to myself that the 1993 terrorists had "finished the job"...Over the course of that day photos of the terrorists started appearing in the media...I can't remember how long it took for it to come back to me but that one suicide pilot Mohammed Atta had a particularly unique "Frankenstein" look to his face...It was bugging me that I had seen it somewhere before and eventually it came back to me that he was the guy driving that first car that I saw when I got to the end of the driveway...I think the passenger was Shehhi...I didn't get as good a look at the passenger but he was definitely one of his cohorts...This is not as crazy as it sounds because the light airport where they trained in Cessna's is only 30 miles from here...I have never made this public because I didn't want to get killed or be taken as a nut...But there is no doubt that Atta and maybe Shehhi were well on the radar of some government's Intelligence agency months before the attack...</span></span></span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[David Ray Griffin (1939-2022) - We have lost a giant in the 911-Truth community!]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16292</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2022 09:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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 David Ray Griffin (1939-2022) | The Man and His Work: A Synopsis <br />
Elizabeth Woodworth December 2, 2022 <br />
How big can a mind be?<br />
If we’re lucky, we have threescore and ten years — in a very big wide world, full of history — to experience as much as we can take in.<br />
Threescore-ten is not nearly enough, but some extraordinary people manage to encompass and give order to a lot of it.<br />
And some even more extraordinary people manage to rise above their own lives to interpret creation and the fabric of the universe as having consistent meaning across cultures and throughout the ages.<br />
David Ray Griffin was Professor of Philosophy of Religion and Theology, at the Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University, from 1973-2004. With his senior, Dr. John Cobb Jr., he co-founded the Center for Process Studies in 1973.<br />
Griffin has stated that “the task of a theologian is to look at the world from what we would imagine the divine perspective, one that would care about the good of the whole and would love all the parts.”<br />
Not only was David an outstanding theologian and one of the two best-known living scholars of Alfred North Whitehead’s process theology (the other being John Cobb): His books also spanned the related fields of postmodernism, theodicy (defence of God against evil), primordial truth, panentheism, scientific naturalism, parapsychology, Buddhist thought, and the mind-body interaction.<br />
About the time that he retired in 2004, he was approached by some people who admired his candor, and pointed to evidence that the 9/11 event was highly suspicious.<br />
At first David thought that 9/11 was simply blowback from the way America had treated the Middle East — but upon researching it more deeply he realized that there was indeed a very serious likelihood that the US had contrived 9/11 as a false flag operation to manufacture consent to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq for their oil.<br />
This injustice fired his energy to research in depth, then write a dozen scholarly books on 9/11 — books that were not acknowledged in the media but which engaged in a cat-and-mouse game with the purveyors of the official 9/11 narrative, who continually adapted their story to cover up the weaknesses that David tracked and revealed as their tattered narrative evolved.<br />
The first and most famous of these books was <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11</span>, published by his much-appreciated Interlink press in March 2004.<br />
That best-seller was followed in 2005 by a devastating takedown of the Bush Administration’s whitewash Commission titled <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions</span>, which exposed 115 problems in “the 571-page lie”.<br />
Following these early 9/11 works, David was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in both 2008 and 2009, and was named among “The 50 People Who Matter Today” by the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">New Statesman</span>, on September 24, 2009.<br />
In November, 2008, David’s seventh book about 9/11, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The New Pearl Harbour Revisited</span>, was one of only 51 books awarded as “pick of the week” that year by <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Publishers Weekly.</span><br />
What followed was extraordinary.<br />
As the foremost book reviewing tool in the English language, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Publishers Weekly’s</span> spotlight should have led to reviews in the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">New York Times</span>, the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Times Literary Supplement</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Library Journal</span>, and many other top reviewing sources — but the word was out in the narrative-controlled media to give it a pass.<br />
In 2011, David and I founded an organization called the 9/11 Consensus Panel, comprised of more than 20 professionals expert in various aspects of the 9/11 attacks. In 2018, the 51 consensus points that were developed during this unique evidence-based reviewing project were published under the title <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">9/11 Unmasked: An International Review Panel Investigation</span> (2018).<br />
During that seven-year project, David addressed the existential crisis of climate change, penning his encyclopaedic 2015 reference, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Unprecedented: Can Civilization Survive the CO2 Crisis?</span> (I took that book to the COP21 Paris climate summit in 2015, and presented it there, following up with a YouTube documentary on that enormous gathering of humanity – the largest meeting since World War II.)<br />
David then turned his attention to US imperialism – writing <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Bush and Cheney: How They Ruined America and the World</span> in 2016, and producing the incredible work of scholarship, T<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">he American Trajectory: Divine or Demonic</span>, in 2018.<br />
David was at last able, in 2019, to turn to his long-planned <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Christian Gospel for Americans: A Systematic Theology</span>. It is a magnum opus of enormous breadth and depth.<br />
In it, for example, he confronts the science vs religion issue, showing that some scientists – former atheists – have been overwhelmed by the extent of exceedingly precise ratios between the chemical elements of earth that are required for life, to now saying that the universe was “fine-tuned for life,” thus reflecting a “fine-tuner” (or divine creator).<br />
In 2022, as he approached the end of his life, and following a long struggle with prostate cancer, David wrote the beautiful and crowning reflections of his maturing theology, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">James and Whitehead on Life after Death</span>.<br />
In the spirit of James and Whitehead, he explains that the universe is not separate from, but is within God, and is itself the very nature of God. This evolving world view requires a new understanding of the divine reality – panentheism, meaning “all in God”.<br />
The causal principles of the universe exist naturally, being inherent in the nature of things, because they exist in the very nature of God.<br />
This chapter on the infinitely fine-tuned nature of the universe to support life is a transporting gift.<br />
But he was not done yet!<br />
Forthcoming in March, 2023, from the publisher Clarity Press, is David’s <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">America on the Brink: How the US Trajectory Led Fatefully to the Russia-Ukraine War</span> – which was completed during the last days of his life.<br />
In total David Ray Griffin has written 50 books and more than 200 essays. (He was once asked if he had ever had an unpublished thought!)<br />
In all of his books – and most notably those on American imperialism – he read and cited recent scholarly investigations from top university presses, effectively overriding the propaganda that has passed down through many years.<br />
Paul Craig Roberts wrote: “David has served truth to the hilt. He is a hero of our time.”<br />
There is no question that his body of work will go down in history as providing some of the most elegant thinking our century has witnessed.<br />
And at some point, his chronicling of historically suppressed truths must emerge into full daylight, to allow reality-based civilization to advance.<br />
Let us keep his work alive, so that earth’s future peoples will inherit the great spectrum of wisdom he has left them: from a hopeful common-sense theology, to the exposés of imperialist propaganda and false flag operations, to the full extent of the climate crisis, to our evolving perception of the nature of the divine, to the evidence that our spirits will survive after death.<br />
David Griffin stands with the greats – yet was quiet, humorous, down to earth, and unassuming.<br />
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<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Elizabeth Woodworth, a career medical librarian and author/co-author of five books, worked with David Ray Griffin in various capacities from 2006-2022. She did proof-reading/editing on about 12 of his books and many of his essays, co-authored two books with him directly, and has also written in-depth reviews of most of his books from the 2006-2022 period</span>]]></description>
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 David Ray Griffin (1939-2022) | The Man and His Work: A Synopsis <br />
Elizabeth Woodworth December 2, 2022 <br />
How big can a mind be?<br />
If we’re lucky, we have threescore and ten years — in a very big wide world, full of history — to experience as much as we can take in.<br />
Threescore-ten is not nearly enough, but some extraordinary people manage to encompass and give order to a lot of it.<br />
And some even more extraordinary people manage to rise above their own lives to interpret creation and the fabric of the universe as having consistent meaning across cultures and throughout the ages.<br />
David Ray Griffin was Professor of Philosophy of Religion and Theology, at the Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University, from 1973-2004. With his senior, Dr. John Cobb Jr., he co-founded the Center for Process Studies in 1973.<br />
Griffin has stated that “the task of a theologian is to look at the world from what we would imagine the divine perspective, one that would care about the good of the whole and would love all the parts.”<br />
Not only was David an outstanding theologian and one of the two best-known living scholars of Alfred North Whitehead’s process theology (the other being John Cobb): His books also spanned the related fields of postmodernism, theodicy (defence of God against evil), primordial truth, panentheism, scientific naturalism, parapsychology, Buddhist thought, and the mind-body interaction.<br />
About the time that he retired in 2004, he was approached by some people who admired his candor, and pointed to evidence that the 9/11 event was highly suspicious.<br />
At first David thought that 9/11 was simply blowback from the way America had treated the Middle East — but upon researching it more deeply he realized that there was indeed a very serious likelihood that the US had contrived 9/11 as a false flag operation to manufacture consent to occupy Afghanistan and Iraq for their oil.<br />
This injustice fired his energy to research in depth, then write a dozen scholarly books on 9/11 — books that were not acknowledged in the media but which engaged in a cat-and-mouse game with the purveyors of the official 9/11 narrative, who continually adapted their story to cover up the weaknesses that David tracked and revealed as their tattered narrative evolved.<br />
The first and most famous of these books was <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the Bush Administration and 9/11</span>, published by his much-appreciated Interlink press in March 2004.<br />
That best-seller was followed in 2005 by a devastating takedown of the Bush Administration’s whitewash Commission titled <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions</span>, which exposed 115 problems in “the 571-page lie”.<br />
Following these early 9/11 works, David was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in both 2008 and 2009, and was named among “The 50 People Who Matter Today” by the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">New Statesman</span>, on September 24, 2009.<br />
In November, 2008, David’s seventh book about 9/11, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The New Pearl Harbour Revisited</span>, was one of only 51 books awarded as “pick of the week” that year by <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Publishers Weekly.</span><br />
What followed was extraordinary.<br />
As the foremost book reviewing tool in the English language, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Publishers Weekly’s</span> spotlight should have led to reviews in the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">New York Times</span>, the <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Times Literary Supplement</span>, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Library Journal</span>, and many other top reviewing sources — but the word was out in the narrative-controlled media to give it a pass.<br />
In 2011, David and I founded an organization called the 9/11 Consensus Panel, comprised of more than 20 professionals expert in various aspects of the 9/11 attacks. In 2018, the 51 consensus points that were developed during this unique evidence-based reviewing project were published under the title <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">9/11 Unmasked: An International Review Panel Investigation</span> (2018).<br />
During that seven-year project, David addressed the existential crisis of climate change, penning his encyclopaedic 2015 reference, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Unprecedented: Can Civilization Survive the CO2 Crisis?</span> (I took that book to the COP21 Paris climate summit in 2015, and presented it there, following up with a YouTube documentary on that enormous gathering of humanity – the largest meeting since World War II.)<br />
David then turned his attention to US imperialism – writing <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Bush and Cheney: How They Ruined America and the World</span> in 2016, and producing the incredible work of scholarship, T<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">he American Trajectory: Divine or Demonic</span>, in 2018.<br />
David was at last able, in 2019, to turn to his long-planned <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Christian Gospel for Americans: A Systematic Theology</span>. It is a magnum opus of enormous breadth and depth.<br />
In it, for example, he confronts the science vs religion issue, showing that some scientists – former atheists – have been overwhelmed by the extent of exceedingly precise ratios between the chemical elements of earth that are required for life, to now saying that the universe was “fine-tuned for life,” thus reflecting a “fine-tuner” (or divine creator).<br />
In 2022, as he approached the end of his life, and following a long struggle with prostate cancer, David wrote the beautiful and crowning reflections of his maturing theology, <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">James and Whitehead on Life after Death</span>.<br />
In the spirit of James and Whitehead, he explains that the universe is not separate from, but is within God, and is itself the very nature of God. This evolving world view requires a new understanding of the divine reality – panentheism, meaning “all in God”.<br />
The causal principles of the universe exist naturally, being inherent in the nature of things, because they exist in the very nature of God.<br />
This chapter on the infinitely fine-tuned nature of the universe to support life is a transporting gift.<br />
But he was not done yet!<br />
Forthcoming in March, 2023, from the publisher Clarity Press, is David’s <span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">America on the Brink: How the US Trajectory Led Fatefully to the Russia-Ukraine War</span> – which was completed during the last days of his life.<br />
In total David Ray Griffin has written 50 books and more than 200 essays. (He was once asked if he had ever had an unpublished thought!)<br />
In all of his books – and most notably those on American imperialism – he read and cited recent scholarly investigations from top university presses, effectively overriding the propaganda that has passed down through many years.<br />
Paul Craig Roberts wrote: “David has served truth to the hilt. He is a hero of our time.”<br />
There is no question that his body of work will go down in history as providing some of the most elegant thinking our century has witnessed.<br />
And at some point, his chronicling of historically suppressed truths must emerge into full daylight, to allow reality-based civilization to advance.<br />
Let us keep his work alive, so that earth’s future peoples will inherit the great spectrum of wisdom he has left them: from a hopeful common-sense theology, to the exposés of imperialist propaganda and false flag operations, to the full extent of the climate crisis, to our evolving perception of the nature of the divine, to the evidence that our spirits will survive after death.<br />
David Griffin stands with the greats – yet was quiet, humorous, down to earth, and unassuming.<br />
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<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">Elizabeth Woodworth, a career medical librarian and author/co-author of five books, worked with David Ray Griffin in various capacities from 2006-2022. She did proof-reading/editing on about 12 of his books and many of his essays, co-authored two books with him directly, and has also written in-depth reviews of most of his books from the 2006-2022 period</span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Another New Film on September 11 by Avery - 'The Unspeakable']]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16272</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2021 07:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Architects &amp; Engineers for 9/11 Truth and Executive Producer William Hurt are proud to announce the release of <a href="http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&amp;c=4vZ44mo8sfsutxI9YyjobtiAghZuq3HG" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0068d8;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Unspeakable</span></span></a>, a feature-length documentary by Dylan Avery.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Unspeakable </span>follows four families in their struggle to find the truth about the murder of their loved ones on September 11, 2001.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">We believe this film has the power to open hearts and change minds in a way <span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">that no other 9/11 film has, <a href="http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&amp;c=xM8k6A20iqzK9ulBT45ExNiAghZuq3HG" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0068d8;" class="mycode_color">so please do everything you can to share it widely.</span></a></span></span>]]></description>
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<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">Architects &amp; Engineers for 9/11 Truth and Executive Producer William Hurt are proud to announce the release of <a href="http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&amp;c=4vZ44mo8sfsutxI9YyjobtiAghZuq3HG" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0068d8;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Unspeakable</span></span></a>, a feature-length documentary by Dylan Avery.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The Unspeakable </span>follows four families in their struggle to find the truth about the murder of their loved ones on September 11, 2001.</span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size"> </span><br />
<span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">We believe this film has the power to open hearts and change minds in a way <span style="font-size: large;" class="mycode_size">that no other 9/11 film has, <a href="http://salsa3.salsalabs.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&amp;c=xM8k6A20iqzK9ulBT45ExNiAghZuq3HG" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0068d8;" class="mycode_color">so please do everything you can to share it widely.</span></a></span></span>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[New Film Released 9/11/2021]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16263</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2021 21:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=222">Lauren Johnson</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[20th Annaversary of the fairytale of Big Lies]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16259</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2021 04:30:15 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<div style="text-align: center;" class="mycode_align"><span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: xx-large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: xx-large;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Coming Up September 11th, Global Live Stream from the Lawyers' Committee for 9/11 Inquiry</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
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<span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><a href="http://xti40.mjt.lu/lnk/AVkAAAto8CYAAcp6LowAAUplJqsAAYCqVyUAJTSXABLRlgBhKCZysRcojgIDQvCKR0RGZ_n9GQASyQA/1/FwVKPhjZLeV6vBG4Xdb3FA/aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cubGF3eWVyc2NvbW1pdHRlZWZvcjktMTFpbnF1aXJ5Lm9yZy9saXZlLXN0cmVhbS0yMDIxLWRvbmF0aW9uLw" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://xti40.mjt.lu/img/xti40/b/mnmwt/qgjvz.jpeg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: qgjvz.jpeg]" class="mycode_img" /></a></span><br />
<div style="text-align: center;" class="mycode_align"><span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">The 9/11 Anniversary Event  Will Be LIVE STREAMED on Saturday, September 11, 2021</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div style="text-align: center;" class="mycode_align"><span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">1:00 p.m. Eastern time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">12:00 p.m. noon Central time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">11:00 a.m. Mountain time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">10:00 a.m. Pacific coast time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">(8 hours duration)</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div style="text-align: center;" class="mycode_align"><span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The entire event will be archived for 7 days afterwards so you can arrive late or watch it later or again.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>]]></description>
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<div style="text-align: center;" class="mycode_align"><span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">The 9/11 Anniversary Event  Will Be LIVE STREAMED on Saturday, September 11, 2021</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div style="text-align: center;" class="mycode_align"><span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">1:00 p.m. Eastern time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">12:00 p.m. noon Central time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">11:00 a.m. Mountain time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">10:00 a.m. Pacific coast time</span></span><br />
<span style="font-size: small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font">(8 hours duration)</span></span></span></span></span></span></div>
<div style="text-align: center;" class="mycode_align"><span style="font-size: xx-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="color: #000000;" class="mycode_color"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-size: x-small;" class="mycode_size"><span style="font-family: Arial;" class="mycode_font"><span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The entire event will be archived for 7 days afterwards so you can arrive late or watch it later or again.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[AA Flight 77 at the Pentagon: The Final Story About the Attack on the Pentagon]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16216</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2020 00:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=222">Lauren Johnson</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<title><![CDATA[Dylan Avery's new 9/11 documentary - SEVEN.]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16194</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2020 00:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[LOOSE CHANGE director Dylan Avery has a new film on WTC7 coming out this year.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[LOOSE CHANGE director Dylan Avery has a new film on WTC7 coming out this year.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[NEW Proof of Controlled Demolition of WTC-7]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16183</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2020 20:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[<a href="https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">https://www.ae911truth.org/wtc7</a><br />
Technical, detailed, definitive, scientific study shows that fire had NOTHING to do with collapse of WTC-7, <span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">and that all the support beams failed at the EXACT same moment!</span></span></span> He doesn't go further, but I will...that leaves only controlled demolition of some kind!! Nanothermitic post-reaction chemicals and artifacts were found in the ruins of WTC-7 [as well as those of the other 2 towers and two additional smaller WTC buildings.....]. This NEW report released yesterday is getting little attention due to the coronavirus pandemic. Please spread it widely through social and internet media! It puts to bed the BIG LIE of planes and fires bringing down any buildings - WTC-7, in fact, was NOT hit by any plane!!!!! One of the persons [Jenkins] who was in the building just before it collapsed and often spoke out on hearing explosions in the building mysteriously died in an 'accident' [to silence him]. He had been a high official of the NYC Emergency Preparedness Office that was located in WTC7. They kill truthtellers and they try to kill the truth!.... Time to fight back. The hour is very late.]]></description>
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Technical, detailed, definitive, scientific study shows that fire had NOTHING to do with collapse of WTC-7, <span style="font-size: medium;" class="mycode_size"><span style="text-decoration: underline;" class="mycode_u"><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">and that all the support beams failed at the EXACT same moment!</span></span></span> He doesn't go further, but I will...that leaves only controlled demolition of some kind!! Nanothermitic post-reaction chemicals and artifacts were found in the ruins of WTC-7 [as well as those of the other 2 towers and two additional smaller WTC buildings.....]. This NEW report released yesterday is getting little attention due to the coronavirus pandemic. Please spread it widely through social and internet media! It puts to bed the BIG LIE of planes and fires bringing down any buildings - WTC-7, in fact, was NOT hit by any plane!!!!! One of the persons [Jenkins] who was in the building just before it collapsed and often spoke out on hearing explosions in the building mysteriously died in an 'accident' [to silence him]. He had been a high official of the NYC Emergency Preparedness Office that was located in WTC7. They kill truthtellers and they try to kill the truth!.... Time to fight back. The hour is very late.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[The Saudi connections to strange terrorist events in the USA]]></title>
			<link>https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/showthread.php?tid=16155</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 09 Dec 2019 05:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=16">Peter Lemkin</a>]]></dc:creator>
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<h1>Saudi Military Base Shooter and the Unexplained 9/11 Connection</h1> 				 	  	 	  			 				<img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Naval_Air_Station_Pensacola_1088x725-700x470.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: Naval_Air_Station_Pensacola_1088x725-700x470.jpg]" class="mycode_img" />					Naval  Air Station Pensacola was on lockdown Friday, December 6, 2019 after a  Saudi Arabian military pilot training in the US opened fire leaving  three people dead and several others wounded. Photo credit: Â© Patrick  Nichols/US Navy via ZUMA Wire  <br />
 								    			 				 				 				Reading Time:  22 minutesThe  alleged gunman in the fatal shooting Friday at Naval Air Station  Pensacola in Florida, in which at least three were killed and others  wounded, is a Saudi national who had been assigned to the base for the  past two years.<br />
The training of the suspected shooter, Mohammed Alshamrani, was paid for by the Saudi government. <a href="https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pensacola-naval-base-shooter/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">CNN cited</a> a law enforcement source saying that Alshamrani  <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pensacola-naval-base-shooting-suspect-identified-member-saudi/story?id=67555812" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">a second lieutenant in the Royal Saudi Air Force</a>  was vetted upon entry to the US and his background checked again after the shooting with no red flags discovered.<br />
And  the case becomes more and more bizarre. The night before the shooting,  Alshamrani reportedly gave a dinner party for three other Saudis during  which time <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">they watched videos of other mass shootings. </a><br />
At  least one of those men apparently also videotaped outside the building  during the shooting at the naval base, as the other two sat in a car  watching. Coincidence? Or did they have advance knowledge of what was to  take place? Later, they <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">told investigators</a> that they "just happened to be there at the time."  <br />
On Saturday evening, the<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2019/12/07/pensacola-shooting-shooter-updates/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"> Washington Post reported</a>  being told by an official that  "There are no indications of a  conspiracy at the moment." And he added "Alshamrani may have been  self-radicalized." The Post  also reported that Alshamrani wrote a letter shortly before the  shootings condemning the US for "funding crimes against Muslims," and  for supporting Israel.<br />
Saudi  extremist activity in Florida involving figures tied to the Saudi  government is certainly not new. But the details have seemingly not  drawn any sustained interest by US authorities. In fact, quite the  opposite: Inquiries, including by law enforcement, seem to have been  shut down. <br />
 Perhaps the strangest story involves  ties between the 9/11 hijackers and a Saudi family living in Sarasota,  FL, until just before those attacks. <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/2011/09/22/saudi-royal-ties-to-911-hijackers-via-florida-saudi-family-0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">WhoWhatWhy investigated</a>  that matter, and was struck by the lack of interest shown by officials  in the deeply disturbing particulars, which suggested possible awareness  of the 9/11 plot at high levels of the Saudi royal family. <br />
In that case, too, key figures were supposedly vetted by the US government. <br />
As  we learned, a counterterrorism officer, an FBI agent, and a senator who  were determined to continue probing the matter were variously warned  off, stonewalled, or reassigned. <br />
It  seems worth considering how much the US's dependence on oil from the  Arabian Peninsula figures in any failures to probe  just as the US was  very quick to <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/10/saving-the-saudis-200310" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">let members of the Saudi royal family in the United States at the time of the attacks leave the country</a> without being interrogated, despite severe restrictions on flights. <br />
It  also is very careful not to use incendiary wording like "terrorist"  when it involves the Saudis, including those in the Pensacola case. <br />
 President Donald Trump declined to say whether the shooting was related to terrorism, and he seemed more concerned with<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/06/trump-king-salman-said-saudi-people-angered-pensacola-shooting/4355837002/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"> dissassociating the Saudi government from the shooter.</a>  He tweeted "The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by  the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way  shape or form represents the feelings of the Saudi people who love the  American people."<br />
However, <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/08/florida-gaetz-pensacola-shooting-078109" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Rep. Matt Gaetz</a>, (R-FL), an outspoken Trump loyalist who represents Pensacola, <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/08/florida-gaetz-pensacola-shooting-078109" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">did not hesitate </a>to call the act <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/08/florida-gaetz-pensacola-shooting-078109" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">terrorism,</a> and to demand that the Saudis in no way interfere with the investigation of the mass shooting. <br />
Critics  have noted that the forbearance granted Saudi Arabia is exceptional    certainly not a courtesy that would have been extended had suspects been  from, say, Iran. <br />
We  republish our original work here on the 9-11 attacks because we believe  the full story and context still warrant scrutiny. More so because of  the Pensacola shootings. It's a continuing tale and a continuing  mystery. <br />
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<a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fbi_hijackers1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fbi_hijackers-300x2871.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: fbi_hijackers-300x2871.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Hijackers<br />
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 WhoWhatWhy has found evidence linking the Saudi royal family  to Saudis in South Florida who reportedly had direct contact with the  9/11 hijackers before fleeing the United States just prior to the  attacks. Our report connects some of the dots first laid out by  investigative author Anthony Summers and Florida-based journalist Dan  Christensen in articles jointly published in the Miami Herald and on the nonprofit news site <a href="http://www.browardbulldog.org/2011/09/fbi-found-direct-ties-between-911-hijackers-and-saudis-living-in-florida-congress-kept-in-dark/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">BrowardBulldog.org</span></a>.<br />
 In early September of this year, Summers and Christensen reported  that a secret FBI probe, never shared with Congressional investigators  or the presidential 9/11 commission, had uncovered information  indicating the possibility of support for the hijackers from previously  unknown confederates in the United States during 2001.<br />
 Now WhoWhatWhy reveals that those alleged confederates were closely tied to influential members of the Saudi ruling elite.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/a4s_SAUDIS091011hou_190629c1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/a4s_SAUDIS091011hou_190629c-300x1981.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: a4s_SAUDIS091011hou_190629c-300x1981.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>The House<br />
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 As reported in the Herald, phone records documented  communication, dating back more than a year, that connected a Saudi  family then living in a house near Sarasota, Florida, with the alleged  plot leader, Mohammed Atta, and his hijack pilotsas well as to eleven  of the other hijackers. In addition, records from the guard house at the  gated community tied Atta's vehicle and his accomplice Ziad Jarrah to  actual visits to the house.  Although requiring further investigation,  this information suggests that the house may have functioned as an  operational base for the hijackers.<br />
 According to interviews and records examined by The Herald,  Anoud and Abdulaziz al-Hijji and their young twins abruptly departed  their home in Sarasota only days before September 11, 2001 and traveled  to Arlington, Virginia, where they stayed briefly at another house owned  by Anoud's father, Esam Ghazzawi.<br />
 Then, still well before 9/11, the entire group, now including the  father, flew to London and on to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The Sarasota  house was sold in 2003, as was a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/did-arlington-have-a-more-ominous-link-to-9-11/2011/09/12/gIQASuBCNK_blog.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">penthouse apartment</span></a> in another DC, suburb, Rosslyn, Virginia. The Ghazzawis do not seem to have set foot again in the United States.<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">New Revelations</span><br />
 Building on these revelations, WhoWhatWhy has found documents laying  out the Ghazzawis' royal connections through a nest of Saudi  corporations that share the name EIRAD. Esam Ghazzawi is director of  EIRAD Management Company, the UK division of EIRAD Trading and  Contracting Co. Ltd., which among other things holds the Saudi franchise  for many multinational brands, including UPS. Esam's brother Mamdouh,  whose name shows up on public records associated with family properties  in the U.S., is the Executive Managing Director of the parent firm,  EIRAD Holding Co. Ltd. EIRAD has connections to the US government via  contracts. In 2008, records show, the State Department <a href="http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?reptype=r&amp;detail=-1&amp;sortp=f&amp;maj_agency_cat=19&amp;datype=T&amp;reptype=r&amp;database=fpds&amp;database=fpds&amp;parent_id=4668&amp;fiscal_year=2008&amp;record_num=f500" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">paid EIRAD &#36;11,733</span></a> for rental of facilities, presumably in Saudi Arabia.<br />
 There is no indication that the company itself, or any of its  officers or employees, have any connection to the 9/11 incident, or  knowledge of anything regarding Mr. Ghazzawi's activities in the United  States.  Calls for comment to the company's main switchboard went  unanswered during normal business hours; its website was not functioning  properly and Saudi trade officials in the United States had not  furnished alternative contact information at publication time.<br />
 But the now-revealed link between the Ghazzawis and the highest ranks  of the Saudi establishment reopens questions about the White House's  controversial approval for multiple charter flights allowing Saudi  nationals to depart the U.S., beginning about 48 hours after the  attacks, without the passengers being interviewed by law  enforcementdespite the identification of the majority of the hijackers  as Saudis.<br />
 In addition, the new revelations draw further attention to a web of  relationships that include the long and close business, personal and  political ties between the Bush family and the Saudi royal family.<br />
 Saudi money is woven throughout business ventures connected to the  Bushes. Saudi funds even helped bail out George W. Bush's failing oil  company early in his life. Jim Bath, a close friend of Bush in the Texas  Air National Guard, went on to start a business in conjunction with two  sons of powerful Saudi familiesKhalid bin Mahfouz, whose family  provides banking services to the Saudi royals, and Salem bin Laden, heir  to the bin Laden family's global construction empire and a half brother  to Osama bin Laden. (For a detailed probe of the Bush family's dealings  with the Saudis, including substantial previously unreported material,  see my book, <span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608190064/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1608190064&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=who0ee-20" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, America's Invisible Government and the Hidden History of the Last Fifty Years.</a>)</span><br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Details of The Herald's Revelations </span><br />
 The Ghazzawi presence in the Sunshine State predated 9/11 by at least  six years. In 1995 a young Saudi woman named Anoud Ghazzawi living in  South Florida married a fellow Saudi native, Abdulaziz al-Hijji (English  spellings of his first name and surname vary, as is typical of  Arabic  names<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">.)</span> Anoud's father, Esam, and his American-born  wife Deborah bought the couple a stylish, three-bedroom house in a gated  community in Sarasota. The house remained in the elder Ghazzawis' names  while the young couple lived there and began a family.<br />
 Six years later, less than two weeks before the 9/11 attacks, Anoud,  Abdulaziz and their children left their home on or about August 30, 2001  in great haste, taking off in a white van. This was about the same time  that the hijackers were purchasing their tickets for the targeted  flights.<br />
 The family apparently left with no advance planning, leaving behind  almost all their possessions, abandoning three recently registered  vehicles, including a brand-new Chrysler PT Cruiser, in the garage and  driveway. As the Herald <a href="http://gawker.com/5838498/the-mysterious-saudi-family-that-vanished-two-weeks-before-911" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">article</span></a> explained:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">"there was mail on the table, dirty diapers in one of the  bathrooms â€¦ all the toiletries still in place â€¦ all their clothes  hanging in the closet â€¦ opulent furniture, equal or greater in value  than the house â€¦ the pool running, with toys in itâ€¦.The beds were made â€¦  fruit on the counter â€¦ the refrigerator full of food. â€¦ It was like  they went grocery shopping. Like they went out to a movie â€¦ [But] the  safe was open in the master bedroom, with nothing in it, not a paper  clip. â€¦ A computer was still there. A computer plug in another room, and  the line still there. Looked like they'd taken [another] computer and  left the cord."<br />
</div> After public disclosure of Saudi involvement in the 9/11 attacks,  people in the gated community took note of the rushed departure and  disappearance of the Ghazzawi-al-Hijjis. After all, the attackers were  not just overwhelmingly of Saudi nationality, but three out of four of  the future hijackers had lived and trained to fly in Venice, Florida,  just 10 miles away from the house.<br />
 The complex's security officer alerted the FBI, which began an  investigation into the house at 4224 Escondito Circle. (In addition, a  suspicious neighbor alerted the FBI by email on the day of the attacks.)<br />
 The Justice Department declined to give the Herald a  statement, but, according to an unnamed senior counterterrorism officer  who was one of two people who got into the house first and served as a  key source for the paper, the investigation bore stunning fruit.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/47049269_jarrah_pa_2261.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/47049269_jarrah_pa_2261.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 47049269_jarrah_pa_2261.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Ziad Jarrah<br />
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 Phone records showed communication, dating back more than a year,  that connected those in the house with the alleged plot leader, Mohammed  Atta and his accomplices, including eleven of the other hijackers.  Other records, kept by guards at the gated community, documented  numerous visits to the house by a vehicle known to have been used by  Atta, and indicated the physical presence in the car of Atta's purported  accomplice Ziad Jarrah. It appeared as if the Ghazzawi house was some  kind of nerve center for the entire operation.<br />
 According to the senior counterterrorism officer, both Esam Ghazzawi  and his son-in-law al-Hijji had been on a watch list at the FBI  predating 9/11. An unnamed U.S. agency tracking terror funds had also  taken an interest in them. "464 was Ghazzawi's number," the officer  said. "I don't remember the other man's number."<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Secrecy Reveals Little Official Curiosityor Coverup?</span><br />
 These stunning revelationssaid to be based on the work of the swarm  of FBI agents who descended on the gated community in the fall of  2001would surely have generated headlines worldwide if they had become  known after 9/11. But the FBI, for reasons unknown, failed to provide  the information to Congressional 9/11 investigators or to the  presidential 9/11 commission, and thus it has remained a secret for the  past decade.<br />
 In response to the Herald article, the FBI has issued a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20111127192300/http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/15/2409359/fbi-no-link-between-sarasota-family.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">statement</a>  saying that the occupants of the house had been tracked down and  interrogated, and were found to have no connections to the hijackers. It  is not clear when these interrogations are supposed to have taken  place, or whether they were conducted by the FBI or by Saudi  intelligence. But given the FBI's poor track record for candor in the  matter, the statement is being viewed with some skepticism.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4224escondito-300x2341.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4224escondito-300x2341.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 4224escondito-300x2341.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Inside the House<br />
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 Adding to these doubts is an ineffective effort by the Bureau to woo  the house owners back to Florida. According to Scott McKay, a lawyer for  homeowners' association of the gated community, known as Prestancia,  the FBI attempted to convince the Ghazzawis they needed to come back in  person to sign documents related to unpaid back dues to the association.  This attempt proved unsuccessful when the Ghazzawis simply arranged to  sign the documents elsewhere. These facts, reported by The Herald,  raise questions about the U.S. government's determination to interview  the couple: Esam Ghazzawi's signature was notarized in Lebanonby a U.S.  official no lessthe vice consul at the US embassy in Beirut. His  wife's signature was also notarizedelsewhere in the United States, in Riverside County, California.<br />
 The emergence of this information chagrined Bob Graham, the former  Florida U.S. Senator. Graham was Senate Intelligence Committee chair  (and a 2004 candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination) and  served as co-chair of the congressional joint inquiry into 9/11. "At the  beginning of the investigation," he told The Herald, "each of  the intelligence agencies, including the FBI, was asked to provide all  information that agency possessed in relation to 9/11." Graham noted  that the Bureau also failed to turn over information connecting the  hijackers to other Saudis living in California, which his own  investigators later discovered on their own.<br />
 Just as strange, when Graham's congressional investigators turned  over a large body of information on the hijackers they had assembled to  the presidential 9/11 Commission, it seemed uninterested. "They did very  little with it," Graham said, "and their reference to Saudi Arabia is  almost cryptic sometimes. â€¦ I never got a good answer as to why they did  not pursue that."<br />
 About the new discovery in Sarasota, Graham said it "opens the door  to a new chapter of investigation as to the depth of the Saudi role in  9/11."<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">All Eyes on Prince Sultan</span><br />
 Of special interest is the Ghazzawis' boss, the chairman of Eirad Holding Co. Ltd., <a href="https://www.decypha.com/en/people-list/Sultan-Al-Saud-185912" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Prince Sultan bin Fahd bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud</a>.  He is a prominent member of the ruling Saudi royal family. He is a  great-grandson of King Abdulaziz (commonly referred to as Ibn Saud),  founder of modern Saudi Arabia, and grandson of the current king.<br />
 His uncle is another Sultan  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_bin_Salman_Al_Saud" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud</a>.  A leading advocate of teaching Saudis to fly, Prince Sultan is the  founder and Chairman of the Board of the Saudi Aviation Club, and  Chairman of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Khaled_International_Airport" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">King Khaled International Airport</a> (KKIA) Supervisory Committee. Since 2000, he has also headed <a href="http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=1&amp;section=0&amp;article=106705&amp;d=12&amp;m=2&amp;y=2008" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Saudi Arabia's tourism commission</a>,  placing him among a handful of the King's grandsons to hold ministerial  rank. One of his missions as head of the tourism commission is to  repair the damage to Saudi Arabia's image caused by the 9/11 attacks.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/MUSLIMS-IN-NASA1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/MUSLIMS-IN-NASA-300x1401.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: MUSLIMS-IN-NASA-300x1401.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Prince Sultan bin Salman<br />
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 In a <a href="http://www.aftenposten.no/spesial/wikileaksdokumenter/article4094995.ece" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">document</span></a>  released by Wikileaks, the U.S. Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James B.  Smith,  characterizes Prince Sultan this way: "With a powerful father  who is the Governor of Riyadh and a strong candidate to be the next  crown-prince, Sultan is well positioned to move up the Saudi government  ranksâ€¦ Sultan has visited almost every state [in the U.S.]. He joked  with the Ambassador that perhaps the only states he has not yet visited  are the Dakotas.' "  (He is extra well connected, with one brother  serving as the deputy oil minister)<br />
 Prince Sultan is closely allied with Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin  Abdul-Aziz Al Saud, the former longtime ambassador to the United States,  who is often called "Bandar Bush" for his friendly relationship with  the Bush family. Sultan and Bandar have worked together for years to  promote Saudi interest in aviation.<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Bushes and the Royals</span><br />
 The Bush family have long been regarded as friendly with the prince's  family and their associates. Prince Sultan's NASA mission is perceived  as having been <a href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/24268/sadly-obama-not-1st-to-use-nasa-for-islamo-outreach-reagan-bush-were/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">orchestrated</span></a>  by George HW Bush as a favor to the Saudis. Associates of the Bush  family have many connections with the Prince's family.  Prince Sultan's  father's legal counsel is William Jeffress Jr, of Houston-based <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Botts" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Baker Botts LLP</span></a>,  where James A. Baker III, longstanding advisor to the Bush family,  including both Presidents Bush, is a senior partner.  At the time of the  9/11 attacks, Baker held the post of Senior Counselor for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Carlyle Group</span></a>, a global asset management firm which is heavily invested in <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120211203945/http://www.carlyle.com/Industry/Aerospace%20&amp;%20Defense/item8359.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">military contracting stocks</span></a>;  among Carlyle's large investors were the bin Ladens. (In a curious  coincidence, Baker watched the live television coverage of the attacks  from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritz-Carlton_Hotel" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Ritz-Carlton Hotel</span></a> in Washington, where he and representatives of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Osama bin Laden</span></a>s extended <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden_family" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">family</span></a>  were attending the Carlyle Group's annual conference. In another odd  coincidence, President George W. Bush himself was in Sarasota, reading  to schoolchildren, at the very time the Sarasota-area-based terrorists  were hijacking the planes. Indeed, he was a short distance from the home  the Ghazzawis had recently abandoned.)<br />
 President Bush's actions in the aftermath of the World Trade Center  and Pentagon assaults with regard to the Saudi royal family have long  been known but have yet to be fully explored. Shortly after the attacks,  President Bush permitted an exception to the ban on air traffic so that  planes could take prominent Saudis out of the country. One of those  leaving on the flights was the late Prince Ahmed bin Salman, brother of  Prince Sultan.<br />
 In a 2004 <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/opinion/l-saudi-flights-after-9-11-507474.html?ref=geraldposner" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">letter</span></a> to the New York Times, Prince  Sultan responded to allegations surrounding those flights, and pointed  to a conclusion in the 9/11 commission report: "Our own independent  review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known  links to terrorism departed on these flights." (Another Saudi who left  the US after 9/11 was the architect Abdel <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/abdel-wahed-el-wakil#ixzz1XaHiJFru" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Wahed El-Wakil,</span></a> who had a base in Miami and serves as an advisor to Prince Sultan.)<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Allegations of Saudi Royal Complicity</span><br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/oaks61.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/oaks6-300x1981.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: oaks6-300x1981.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Prince Ahmed with his horse<br />
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 Sultan's brother Prince Ahmed was the most westernized of the Saudi  set. He raised racehorses in Kentucky and was the owner of the 2001  Kentucky Derby winner, with the perhaps unfortunate name "War Emblem."  Allegations concerning Prince Ahmed emerged in the 2003 book, Why America Slept, by  the bestselling author Gerald Posner. Posner says that intelligence  sources told him how in March, 2002, under interrogation (but before he  was <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/20detain.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">waterboarded 83 times in August</span></a>),  Al Qaeda's purported chief of operations, Abu Zubaydah, relaxed and  began cooperating. Tricked into thinking he was in Saudi custody,  Zubaydah asked his interrogators to call a senior member of the Saudi  Royal family, who he said was his contact. He provided, from memory, the  man's private home and cell phones. This contact, according to Posner,  was Prince Ahmed.<br />
 Zubaydah is alleged to have said that Osama bin Laden had cut a deal  with a top Pakistani military official, Air Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir, who  was close to Islamist elements in Pakistani intelligence. According to  this account, the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Turki, signed off on  this, and agreed to provide aid to the Taliban in Afghanistan and not to  go after Al Qaeda so long as the terrorist group kept its gun sights  trained away from the Saudi royals.<br />
 In this version of events, Zubaydah is said to have also implicated  Prince Sultan, along with another cousin, Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud  al-Kabir, as Al Qaeda backers, and to have claimed that the Pakistani  Air Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir and Saudi Prince Ahmed knew in advance about  the 9/11 attacks.<br />
 Though the interrogators were skeptical of these claims, Zubaydah  often proved credible. Information he provided led to the capture of a  senior al-Qaeda operative in Southeast Asia. Zubaydah would only talk  when he thought he was in Saudi hands. When U.S. personnel, no longer  posing as Saudis, confronted him, Zubaydah said he had made up his  earlier statements. But investigators found no basis for believing the  information to be falseand even found material that corroborated his  claimed ties to high level Saudis. Not surprisingly, the Saudi and  Pakistani governments insisted his claims were false in all respects.<br />
 One of the key figures named by Zubaydah, Prince Turki, had been   removed from his position as Saudi intelligence chief on September 1,  2001, ten days before the attacks. Thus, he was apparently not in that  post on the critical day. Yet, his removal was a   temporary absence  from the highest levels of Saudi leadership, and not necessarily an  indication that he had fallen into serious disfavor. The next year, he  was named Saudi ambassador to Great Britain, just as a shift in focus  from Al Qaeda to Iraq was being pitched to the British. If Zubaydah's  claims are at all credible, the removal of Turki from an official  position shortly before the attacks surely warrants additional analysis  as does the Ghazzawis' hasty flight from the U.S. right in the same  time frame.<br />
 <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/08/9-11-2011-201108#gotopage1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">According to the book The Eleventh Day</a>, by Summers and his co-author Robbyn Swan, Zubaydah is not alone in asserting a Saudi-Al Qaeda deal:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">In sworn statements after 9/11, former Taliban  intelligence chief Mohammed Khaksar said that in 1998 Prince Turki,  chief of Saudi Arabia's General Intelligence Department (G.I.D.), sealed  a deal under which bin Laden agreed not to attack Saudi targets. In  return, Saudi Arabia would provide funds and material assistance to the  Taliban, not demand bin Laden's extradition, and not bring pressure to  close down al-Qaeda training camps. Saudi businesses, meanwhile, would  ensure that money also flowed directly to bin Laden.<br />
</div> ***<br />
 Prince Ahmed and another royal, Prince Sultan bin Fahd bin Salman bin  Abdulaziz, were among the fifteen Saudis spirited out of the US, with  President Bush's approval, on September 16, 2001, via Lexington,  Kentuckyi.e., out of Prince Ahmed's U.S. backyard. Prince Sultan bin  Fahd is the nephew of Prince Ahmed and Prince Sultan, and the son of  Prince Fahd bin Salman (see below) who died unexpectedly shortly before  the 9/11 attacks.<br />
 "It appears as if they didn't want to be around to be questioned as  to what role they had played and the best way to avoid that was to get  out of the country," former Senator Bob Graham <a href="http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20110909/ARTICLE/110909528/-1/sports?p=2&amp;tc=pg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">told</span></a> the Sarasota Herald-Tribune.<br />
 As author Craig Unger notes in his book, House of Bush, House of Saud,  FBI agents were stationed at all points of departure for the group of  Saudis who massed in Lexington before departing the country, yet there's  no evidence they were asked any questions at all.<br />
 Ironically, Posner, who is regularly cited by the corporate media for  his views on the JFK assassination (he is a leading defender of the  conclusion that Oswald was the lone gunman), is largely ignored for his  work on the Saudi-9/11 connection, where he does posit high-level involvement. Posner is a <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/2010/08/26/peculiar-posner/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">highly controversial</span></a>  and at times perplexing figure, but he insists he has  solid  intelligence sources, and the thrust of his claims have meshed with  those of The New York Times intelligence reporter and best-selling author James Risen. As Risen wrote in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/State-War-Secret-History-Administration/dp/0743270665" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">State of War</span></a>,<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">Ever since the September 11 attacks, the trail back from  al Qaeda to Saudi Arabia has been an intriguing path, but one that very  few American investigators have been willing to follow. . . . <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">oth  before and after 9/11, President Bush and his administration have  displayed a remarkable lack of interest in aggressively examining the  connections between Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and the Saudi power  elite. Even as the Bush administration spent enormous time and energy  trying in vain to prove connections between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin  Laden in order to help justify the war in Iraq, the administration was  ignoring far more conclusive ties with Saudi Arabia. Those links are  much stronger and far more troubling than has ever been previously  disclosed, and until they are thoroughly investigated, the roots of Al  Qaeda's power, and the full story of 9/11, will never be known."<br />
</div> <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fahd_bin_salman1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fahd_bin_salman1.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: fahd_bin_salman1.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Prince Fahd bin Salman died six weeks before 9/11 attacks<br />
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 Several of those alleged to have had knowledge of this putative  scheme and its enormous implications met with untimely ends shortly  after Zubaydah's interrogation. In June, 2002, three months after  Zubaydah's capture, the man he identified as his controller, Prince  Ahmed, died of what officials said was a heart attack while asleep.  Another brother of Ahmed's and Sultan's, Prince Fahd bin Salman bin  Abdulaziz, died of a heart attack on July 25, 2001, about six weeks  before the 9/11 attacks. The death of Fahd, who preceded his brother as  head of EIRAD, is described in a Riyadh-datelined article by Middle East  Newsfile, as follows:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">Prince Fahd died suddenly. Prince Fahd did not show any  symptoms of any ailment. He had, however, made an appointment with a  dentist at King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh to check a  toothache.<br />
</div> A cousin, Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, died when his  car crashed en route to Salman's funeral. Zubaydah had supposedly  implicated Prince Sultan bin Faisal, and another royal, Prince Fahd bin  Turki bin Saud al-Kabir. as Al-Qaeda supporters. All these men were in  their forties. Still another key figure in Zubaydah's monstrous scenario  met an untimely death. On February 20, 2003, Mushaf Ali Mir, the  Pakistani air force chief, his wife and fifteen others, were killed in a  plane crash.<br />
 Not a hint of the above information appeared in the released portion  of the presidential 9/11 commission report. It is not known whether any  of it was in the 28 pages of material about Saudi connections that the  Bush Administration censored on national security grounds.<br />
 [B]A Long-Standing Relationship</span><br />
 The Ghazzawis' relationship with the United States seems to date back  to the 1950's, when U.S. immigration records show that Abbas Ghazzawi  visited New York.  Abbas Ghazzawi was a prominent Saudi attorney. Esam,  whose full name is Esam Abbas Ghazzawi, appears to be his son. (WhoWhatWhy was unable to reach Ghazzawi for comment on any of the matters in this article.)<br />
 Abbas Ghazzawi, arriving on a first class ticket on a connecting  flight that originated in Saudi Arabia, was traveling in an elite  entourage. One companion, Rasem al-Khalidi, was <a href="http://www.eltaher.org/docs_photos/1955-Sayf-El-Eslam-Abdallah-and-Rasem-Al-Khalidi-image910_en.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">a high-ranking Saudi monetary official</span></a>.  Another, Faisal al-Hegelan, would years later serve in the  all-important position of Saudi ambassador to Washington. He held that  post during 1979-1983, a period that partly coincided with the  Reagan-Bush Administration. His replacement was Prince Bandar, the Bush  family friend jokingly called "Bandar Bush."<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudiawacs1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudiawacs-300x1291.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: saudiawacs-300x1291.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Saudi Air Force AWACS<br />
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 The focus of Saudi royals in their dealings with the United States  can be seen in the conduct of al-Hegelan. As ambassador, al-Hegelan was  principally concerned with propping up the Saudi regime. He had  seventeen military attachÃ©s assigned fulltime to lobby for the sale of  the advanced command-and-control aircraft known as AWACS to the Saudi  air force. (see P. 17 of the book Arab Reach, by Hoag Levins.)   Overcoming heavy pressure on Washington from the Israelis, the Saudis  succeeded in getting Congress to approve the AWACS sale. Al-Hegelan also  led a lobbying campaign against Secretary of State Alexander Haig's  public support of Israel's invasion of Lebanon. President Reagan, with  strong input from his vice president, George H.W. Bush, removed Haig  and  replaced him with George Schultz, who sided with the Saudis;  Schultz had been president of Bechtel, one of the largest construction  contractors in Saudi Arabia, whose projects included the original  Trans-Arabian Pipeline.<br />
 We find the Ghazzawi clan again in the United States in 1970, when  the young Esam married the American Deborah G. Browning. The marriage  didn't last longin July, 1971 they obtained a divorce in Orange County,  California.<br />
 The first sign of the Ghazzawi clan on the east coast of the United  States was in 1992, when Esam bought a penthouse apartment in the D.C.  suburb of Rosslyn, Virginia. In various accounts, Esam is described as a  banker or financier, who also works as an interior designer. He accrued  additional property in Arlington, Virginia and Longboat Key, Florida,  and his name turns up in connection with a fancy office building in the K  Street lobbying corridor.<br />
 In this period, Esam's name surfaced when investigators probing the monumentally corrupt <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI)</span></a>  sought to recover assets from Saudi Prince Fahd bin Salmanbrother of  Prince Sultan bin Salman.  The prince argued that his assets were being  held in another account under Esam Ghazzawi's name. Only low-level BCCI  officials went to jail in the sprawling scandal, which involved banks  and governments all over the world. Prince Fahd bin Salman is one of the  relatives who died unexpectedly in the year of the 9/11 attacks. (The  Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations were repeatedly accused by  investigators into the BCCI mess of obstructing their inquiries; it is  worth noting that the Treasury Department official responsible for  scrutinizing BCCI's affairs in the Reagan-Bush administration was  assistant secretary for enforcement John M. Walker Jr.who happened to  be George H.W. Bush's cousin.)<br />
 In 1995, Ghazzawi's daughter Anoud, living in South Florida, married  Abdulaziz al-Hiijii, who was a university student in the area. Esam and  Deborah Ghazzawi, apparently reunited sometime after their 1971 divorce,  purchased the Sarasota home into which the couple moved. Abdulaziz  appears to have received a B.S. and Masters of Information Systems from  the University of South Florida. His Master's should be noted in the  context of only one of two items removed from the Sarasota house before  the couple fleda computer.<br />
 Today, the family seems comfortably ensconced back in Saudi Arabia.  In August, 2003, Abdulaziz al-Hijji became a career counselor at the <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/abdulaziz-alhijji/12/687/6b3" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">government oil company</a>Saudi Aramcoa position he retains to this day. He served on the committee holding a <a href="http://www.eservices-sa.org/Event/UploadFiles/EBook3.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">symposium</a> about electronic services in the eastern (oil-producing) province of Saudi Arabia, held in Khobar in 2008.<br />
 We found the American-born Deborah Ghazzawi, posting <a href="http://bloggerdollar.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Connect-to-Internet-with-Your-BlackBerry-without-Paying-For-Data-Plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">online</a> just three years ago for help on finding her username/password for a Saudi Blackberry sim card.<br />
 ***<br />
 The seeming reluctance of the US government to pursue hints of  possible Saudi complicity in the 9/11 attacks, wherever they might lead,  is hardly an isolated failure. Richard Clarke, the chief  counterterrorism official in both the Clinton and Bush administrations,  has recently <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/11/september-11th-anniversary-richard-clarke-s-explosive-cia-cover-up-charge.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">stated his view </a>that  the CIA made an unsuccessful attempt to recruit two of the hijackers as  double agents before the 9/11 attacks, then scurried to cover up this  bungled effort. Clarke thinks evidence points to the spy agency itself  allowing the hijackers into the U.S. as part of this scheme. If Clarke  is correct, this would be another case of interested parties in the  government keeping the truth bottled up for their own purposes.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudi-king-abdullah-with-Bush1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudi-king-abdullah-with-Bush-300x2501.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: saudi-king-abdullah-with-Bush-300x2501.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>President Bush with Saudi King Abdullah<br />
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 Even more disturbing, the final section of the Congressional  inquiry's report, on "sources of foreign support for some of the Sept.  11 hijackers," was totally redacted. It is still unavailable to the  public on the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] anniversary of the attacks. Both Graham  and his GOP counterpart, Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, determined that  national security would not be harmed by releasing those pages. Yet  they were withheldon the orders of George W. Bush.<br />
 Graham told the reporters he thinks suppression of the material  provided "protection of the Saudis from embarrassment, protection of the  administration from political embarrassment â€¦ some of the unknowns,  some of the secrets of 9/11."<br />
 Tellingly, the venerable British insurance company Lloyd's of  London actively investigated Saudi complicity in 9/11. As <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lloyds-insurer-sues-saudi-arabia-for-funding-911-attacks-2356857.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">reported</span></a> by the U.K. paper The Independent,  a Lloyd's unit has launched what is described as "a landmark legal  case" against Saudi Arabia, claiming that the kingdom is indirectly  responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Lloyd's asserts that Saudi banks and  charities acting as surrogates for the royal family gave the terrorist  group the sustenance it needed to carry out the 2001 assault. (Lloyd's  is seeking to recover sums it paid to firms and individuals affected by  the event.) Reports The Independent:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">The legal claim states: "Absent the sponsorship of  al-Qa'ida's material sponsors and supporters, including the defendants  named therein, al-Qa'ida would not have possessed the capacity to  conceive, plan and execute the 11 September attacks. The success of  al-Qa'ida's agenda, including the 11 September attacks themselves, has  been made possible by the lavish sponsorship al-Qa'ida has received from  its material sponsors and supporters over more than a decade leading up  to 11 September 2001."<br />
</div> Bizarrely, several days ago, Lloyd's quietly withdrew its suit,  declining to explain why. But the move was conducted in such a way to  suggest a possible settlement, thereby raising still more questions for  investigation.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/xin_502060604093010913298151.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/xin_50206060409301091329815-300x2301.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: xin_50206060409301091329815-300x2301.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>President Obama with Saudi King Abdullah<br />
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 Meanwhile, in the United States, a growing chorus of voicessome very  establishment voicesare demanding accountability and candor. Graham  and Clarke have now been joined by retired CIA officer Bob Baer, by  several former FBI agents and by Tom Kean, chairman of presidential 9/11  commission, all of whom express concern that the full story has not  been permitted to emerge.<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">"No evidence," But None Sought </span><br />
 The 9/11 Commission report "found no evidence that the Saudi  government as an institution or senior Saudi officials" financed Al  Qaeda. But this carefully worded statement does not foreclose the  possibility that members of the Saudi royal family personally provided  financing, or that senior officials funded companies or outsiders that  in turn provided financing.<br />
 Many questions remain to be answered. For example, why did the  Ghazzawi clan flee in such a hasty manner, pausing only to empty their  safe but leaving food on the kitchen counter and their pool pump  running? Was it because they had received some unexpected news, news so  urgent and alarming that normal preparations for an orderly departure  gave way to what appears to be a panicky exit?<br />
 If this question seems inconsequential, think about what kind of  news, in the days just before 9/11, could have prompted such intemperate  flight from the United States by a well-connected clan of Saudis? The  possible answers to this question could prove world-changing.  The most  important Mideast nation so far untouched by the dislocations of the  Arab Spring is Saudi Arabia, the <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sa.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">single largest supplier of petroleum</span></a>  to the western world. If major players in that country's ruling family  are shown to have had a hand in the 9/11 attacks, it would be the  equivalent of a geopolitical tsunamiupsetting powerful elites around  the world. Is it any wonder that efforts have been made to prevent a  no-holds-barred investigation of this connection? And isn't it time, ten  years later, to end this coverup  in the name of the common good?<br />
 Former Senator Graham, for one, is increasingly adamant. As he told the St. Petersburg Times:  "These 19 people did not play out this plot as lone wolves. The chances  that 19 people, most of whom had never been in the U.S., who did not  speak English, and most of whom did not know each other, could have  completed training, practiced and executed such a complicated plot  defies common sense."]]></description>
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<h1>Saudi Military Base Shooter and the Unexplained 9/11 Connection</h1> 				 	  	 	  			 				<img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Naval_Air_Station_Pensacola_1088x725-700x470.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: Naval_Air_Station_Pensacola_1088x725-700x470.jpg]" class="mycode_img" />					Naval  Air Station Pensacola was on lockdown Friday, December 6, 2019 after a  Saudi Arabian military pilot training in the US opened fire leaving  three people dead and several others wounded. Photo credit: Â© Patrick  Nichols/US Navy via ZUMA Wire  <br />
 								    			 				 				 				Reading Time:  22 minutesThe  alleged gunman in the fatal shooting Friday at Naval Air Station  Pensacola in Florida, in which at least three were killed and others  wounded, is a Saudi national who had been assigned to the base for the  past two years.<br />
The training of the suspected shooter, Mohammed Alshamrani, was paid for by the Saudi government. <a href="https://www.cnn.com/us/live-news/pensacola-naval-base-shooter/index.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">CNN cited</a> a law enforcement source saying that Alshamrani  <a href="https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pensacola-naval-base-shooting-suspect-identified-member-saudi/story?id=67555812" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">a second lieutenant in the Royal Saudi Air Force</a>  was vetted upon entry to the US and his background checked again after the shooting with no red flags discovered.<br />
And  the case becomes more and more bizarre. The night before the shooting,  Alshamrani reportedly gave a dinner party for three other Saudis during  which time <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">they watched videos of other mass shootings. </a><br />
At  least one of those men apparently also videotaped outside the building  during the shooting at the naval base, as the other two sat in a car  watching. Coincidence? Or did they have advance knowledge of what was to  take place? Later, they <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">told investigators</a> that they "just happened to be there at the time."  <br />
On Saturday evening, the<a href="https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2019/12/07/pensacola-shooting-shooter-updates/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"> Washington Post reported</a>  being told by an official that  "There are no indications of a  conspiracy at the moment." And he added "Alshamrani may have been  self-radicalized." The Post  also reported that Alshamrani wrote a letter shortly before the  shootings condemning the US for "funding crimes against Muslims," and  for supporting Israel.<br />
Saudi  extremist activity in Florida involving figures tied to the Saudi  government is certainly not new. But the details have seemingly not  drawn any sustained interest by US authorities. In fact, quite the  opposite: Inquiries, including by law enforcement, seem to have been  shut down. <br />
 Perhaps the strangest story involves  ties between the 9/11 hijackers and a Saudi family living in Sarasota,  FL, until just before those attacks. <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/2011/09/22/saudi-royal-ties-to-911-hijackers-via-florida-saudi-family-0/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">WhoWhatWhy investigated</a>  that matter, and was struck by the lack of interest shown by officials  in the deeply disturbing particulars, which suggested possible awareness  of the 9/11 plot at high levels of the Saudi royal family. <br />
In that case, too, key figures were supposedly vetted by the US government. <br />
As  we learned, a counterterrorism officer, an FBI agent, and a senator who  were determined to continue probing the matter were variously warned  off, stonewalled, or reassigned. <br />
It  seems worth considering how much the US's dependence on oil from the  Arabian Peninsula figures in any failures to probe  just as the US was  very quick to <a href="https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/10/saving-the-saudis-200310" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">let members of the Saudi royal family in the United States at the time of the attacks leave the country</a> without being interrogated, despite severe restrictions on flights. <br />
It  also is very careful not to use incendiary wording like "terrorist"  when it involves the Saudis, including those in the Pensacola case. <br />
 President Donald Trump declined to say whether the shooting was related to terrorism, and he seemed more concerned with<a href="https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2019/12/06/trump-king-salman-said-saudi-people-angered-pensacola-shooting/4355837002/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"> dissassociating the Saudi government from the shooter.</a>  He tweeted "The King said that the Saudi people are greatly angered by  the barbaric actions of the shooter, and that this person in no way  shape or form represents the feelings of the Saudi people who love the  American people."<br />
However, <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/08/florida-gaetz-pensacola-shooting-078109" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Rep. Matt Gaetz</a>, (R-FL), an outspoken Trump loyalist who represents Pensacola, <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/08/florida-gaetz-pensacola-shooting-078109" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">did not hesitate </a>to call the act <a href="https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/08/florida-gaetz-pensacola-shooting-078109" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">terrorism,</a> and to demand that the Saudis in no way interfere with the investigation of the mass shooting. <br />
Critics  have noted that the forbearance granted Saudi Arabia is exceptional    certainly not a courtesy that would have been extended had suspects been  from, say, Iran. <br />
We  republish our original work here on the 9-11 attacks because we believe  the full story and context still warrant scrutiny. More so because of  the Pensacola shootings. It's a continuing tale and a continuing  mystery. <br />
  <br />
<a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fbi_hijackers1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fbi_hijackers-300x2871.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: fbi_hijackers-300x2871.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Hijackers<br />
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 WhoWhatWhy has found evidence linking the Saudi royal family  to Saudis in South Florida who reportedly had direct contact with the  9/11 hijackers before fleeing the United States just prior to the  attacks. Our report connects some of the dots first laid out by  investigative author Anthony Summers and Florida-based journalist Dan  Christensen in articles jointly published in the Miami Herald and on the nonprofit news site <a href="http://www.browardbulldog.org/2011/09/fbi-found-direct-ties-between-911-hijackers-and-saudis-living-in-florida-congress-kept-in-dark/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">BrowardBulldog.org</span></a>.<br />
 In early September of this year, Summers and Christensen reported  that a secret FBI probe, never shared with Congressional investigators  or the presidential 9/11 commission, had uncovered information  indicating the possibility of support for the hijackers from previously  unknown confederates in the United States during 2001.<br />
 Now WhoWhatWhy reveals that those alleged confederates were closely tied to influential members of the Saudi ruling elite.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/a4s_SAUDIS091011hou_190629c1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/a4s_SAUDIS091011hou_190629c-300x1981.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: a4s_SAUDIS091011hou_190629c-300x1981.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>The House<br />
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 As reported in the Herald, phone records documented  communication, dating back more than a year, that connected a Saudi  family then living in a house near Sarasota, Florida, with the alleged  plot leader, Mohammed Atta, and his hijack pilotsas well as to eleven  of the other hijackers. In addition, records from the guard house at the  gated community tied Atta's vehicle and his accomplice Ziad Jarrah to  actual visits to the house.  Although requiring further investigation,  this information suggests that the house may have functioned as an  operational base for the hijackers.<br />
 According to interviews and records examined by The Herald,  Anoud and Abdulaziz al-Hijji and their young twins abruptly departed  their home in Sarasota only days before September 11, 2001 and traveled  to Arlington, Virginia, where they stayed briefly at another house owned  by Anoud's father, Esam Ghazzawi.<br />
 Then, still well before 9/11, the entire group, now including the  father, flew to London and on to Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. The Sarasota  house was sold in 2003, as was a <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-state-of-nova/post/did-arlington-have-a-more-ominous-link-to-9-11/2011/09/12/gIQASuBCNK_blog.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">penthouse apartment</span></a> in another DC, suburb, Rosslyn, Virginia. The Ghazzawis do not seem to have set foot again in the United States.<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">New Revelations</span><br />
 Building on these revelations, WhoWhatWhy has found documents laying  out the Ghazzawis' royal connections through a nest of Saudi  corporations that share the name EIRAD. Esam Ghazzawi is director of  EIRAD Management Company, the UK division of EIRAD Trading and  Contracting Co. Ltd., which among other things holds the Saudi franchise  for many multinational brands, including UPS. Esam's brother Mamdouh,  whose name shows up on public records associated with family properties  in the U.S., is the Executive Managing Director of the parent firm,  EIRAD Holding Co. Ltd. EIRAD has connections to the US government via  contracts. In 2008, records show, the State Department <a href="http://www.fedspending.org/fpds/fpds.php?reptype=r&amp;detail=-1&amp;sortp=f&amp;maj_agency_cat=19&amp;datype=T&amp;reptype=r&amp;database=fpds&amp;database=fpds&amp;parent_id=4668&amp;fiscal_year=2008&amp;record_num=f500" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">paid EIRAD &#36;11,733</span></a> for rental of facilities, presumably in Saudi Arabia.<br />
 There is no indication that the company itself, or any of its  officers or employees, have any connection to the 9/11 incident, or  knowledge of anything regarding Mr. Ghazzawi's activities in the United  States.  Calls for comment to the company's main switchboard went  unanswered during normal business hours; its website was not functioning  properly and Saudi trade officials in the United States had not  furnished alternative contact information at publication time.<br />
 But the now-revealed link between the Ghazzawis and the highest ranks  of the Saudi establishment reopens questions about the White House's  controversial approval for multiple charter flights allowing Saudi  nationals to depart the U.S., beginning about 48 hours after the  attacks, without the passengers being interviewed by law  enforcementdespite the identification of the majority of the hijackers  as Saudis.<br />
 In addition, the new revelations draw further attention to a web of  relationships that include the long and close business, personal and  political ties between the Bush family and the Saudi royal family.<br />
 Saudi money is woven throughout business ventures connected to the  Bushes. Saudi funds even helped bail out George W. Bush's failing oil  company early in his life. Jim Bath, a close friend of Bush in the Texas  Air National Guard, went on to start a business in conjunction with two  sons of powerful Saudi familiesKhalid bin Mahfouz, whose family  provides banking services to the Saudi royals, and Salem bin Laden, heir  to the bin Laden family's global construction empire and a half brother  to Osama bin Laden. (For a detailed probe of the Bush family's dealings  with the Saudis, including substantial previously unreported material,  see my book, <span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color"><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1608190064/ref=as_li_qf_sp_asin_il_tl?ie=UTF8&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=9325&amp;creativeASIN=1608190064&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;tag=who0ee-20" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Family of Secrets: The Bush Dynasty, America's Invisible Government and the Hidden History of the Last Fifty Years.</a>)</span><br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Details of The Herald's Revelations </span><br />
 The Ghazzawi presence in the Sunshine State predated 9/11 by at least  six years. In 1995 a young Saudi woman named Anoud Ghazzawi living in  South Florida married a fellow Saudi native, Abdulaziz al-Hijji (English  spellings of his first name and surname vary, as is typical of  Arabic  names<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">.)</span> Anoud's father, Esam, and his American-born  wife Deborah bought the couple a stylish, three-bedroom house in a gated  community in Sarasota. The house remained in the elder Ghazzawis' names  while the young couple lived there and began a family.<br />
 Six years later, less than two weeks before the 9/11 attacks, Anoud,  Abdulaziz and their children left their home on or about August 30, 2001  in great haste, taking off in a white van. This was about the same time  that the hijackers were purchasing their tickets for the targeted  flights.<br />
 The family apparently left with no advance planning, leaving behind  almost all their possessions, abandoning three recently registered  vehicles, including a brand-new Chrysler PT Cruiser, in the garage and  driveway. As the Herald <a href="http://gawker.com/5838498/the-mysterious-saudi-family-that-vanished-two-weeks-before-911" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">article</span></a> explained:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">"there was mail on the table, dirty diapers in one of the  bathrooms â€¦ all the toiletries still in place â€¦ all their clothes  hanging in the closet â€¦ opulent furniture, equal or greater in value  than the house â€¦ the pool running, with toys in itâ€¦.The beds were made â€¦  fruit on the counter â€¦ the refrigerator full of food. â€¦ It was like  they went grocery shopping. Like they went out to a movie â€¦ [But] the  safe was open in the master bedroom, with nothing in it, not a paper  clip. â€¦ A computer was still there. A computer plug in another room, and  the line still there. Looked like they'd taken [another] computer and  left the cord."<br />
</div> After public disclosure of Saudi involvement in the 9/11 attacks,  people in the gated community took note of the rushed departure and  disappearance of the Ghazzawi-al-Hijjis. After all, the attackers were  not just overwhelmingly of Saudi nationality, but three out of four of  the future hijackers had lived and trained to fly in Venice, Florida,  just 10 miles away from the house.<br />
 The complex's security officer alerted the FBI, which began an  investigation into the house at 4224 Escondito Circle. (In addition, a  suspicious neighbor alerted the FBI by email on the day of the attacks.)<br />
 The Justice Department declined to give the Herald a  statement, but, according to an unnamed senior counterterrorism officer  who was one of two people who got into the house first and served as a  key source for the paper, the investigation bore stunning fruit.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/47049269_jarrah_pa_2261.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/47049269_jarrah_pa_2261.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 47049269_jarrah_pa_2261.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Ziad Jarrah<br />
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 Phone records showed communication, dating back more than a year,  that connected those in the house with the alleged plot leader, Mohammed  Atta and his accomplices, including eleven of the other hijackers.  Other records, kept by guards at the gated community, documented  numerous visits to the house by a vehicle known to have been used by  Atta, and indicated the physical presence in the car of Atta's purported  accomplice Ziad Jarrah. It appeared as if the Ghazzawi house was some  kind of nerve center for the entire operation.<br />
 According to the senior counterterrorism officer, both Esam Ghazzawi  and his son-in-law al-Hijji had been on a watch list at the FBI  predating 9/11. An unnamed U.S. agency tracking terror funds had also  taken an interest in them. "464 was Ghazzawi's number," the officer  said. "I don't remember the other man's number."<br />
<span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Secrecy Reveals Little Official Curiosityor Coverup?</span><br />
 These stunning revelationssaid to be based on the work of the swarm  of FBI agents who descended on the gated community in the fall of  2001would surely have generated headlines worldwide if they had become  known after 9/11. But the FBI, for reasons unknown, failed to provide  the information to Congressional 9/11 investigators or to the  presidential 9/11 commission, and thus it has remained a secret for the  past decade.<br />
 In response to the Herald article, the FBI has issued a <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20111127192300/http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/15/2409359/fbi-no-link-between-sarasota-family.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">statement</a>  saying that the occupants of the house had been tracked down and  interrogated, and were found to have no connections to the hijackers. It  is not clear when these interrogations are supposed to have taken  place, or whether they were conducted by the FBI or by Saudi  intelligence. But given the FBI's poor track record for candor in the  matter, the statement is being viewed with some skepticism.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4224escondito-300x2341.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4224escondito-300x2341.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: 4224escondito-300x2341.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Inside the House<br />
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 Adding to these doubts is an ineffective effort by the Bureau to woo  the house owners back to Florida. According to Scott McKay, a lawyer for  homeowners' association of the gated community, known as Prestancia,  the FBI attempted to convince the Ghazzawis they needed to come back in  person to sign documents related to unpaid back dues to the association.  This attempt proved unsuccessful when the Ghazzawis simply arranged to  sign the documents elsewhere. These facts, reported by The Herald,  raise questions about the U.S. government's determination to interview  the couple: Esam Ghazzawi's signature was notarized in Lebanonby a U.S.  official no lessthe vice consul at the US embassy in Beirut. His  wife's signature was also notarizedelsewhere in the United States, in Riverside County, California.<br />
 The emergence of this information chagrined Bob Graham, the former  Florida U.S. Senator. Graham was Senate Intelligence Committee chair  (and a 2004 candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination) and  served as co-chair of the congressional joint inquiry into 9/11. "At the  beginning of the investigation," he told The Herald, "each of  the intelligence agencies, including the FBI, was asked to provide all  information that agency possessed in relation to 9/11." Graham noted  that the Bureau also failed to turn over information connecting the  hijackers to other Saudis living in California, which his own  investigators later discovered on their own.<br />
 Just as strange, when Graham's congressional investigators turned  over a large body of information on the hijackers they had assembled to  the presidential 9/11 Commission, it seemed uninterested. "They did very  little with it," Graham said, "and their reference to Saudi Arabia is  almost cryptic sometimes. â€¦ I never got a good answer as to why they did  not pursue that."<br />
 About the new discovery in Sarasota, Graham said it "opens the door  to a new chapter of investigation as to the depth of the Saudi role in  9/11."<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">All Eyes on Prince Sultan</span><br />
 Of special interest is the Ghazzawis' boss, the chairman of Eirad Holding Co. Ltd., <a href="https://www.decypha.com/en/people-list/Sultan-Al-Saud-185912" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Prince Sultan bin Fahd bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud</a>.  He is a prominent member of the ruling Saudi royal family. He is a  great-grandson of King Abdulaziz (commonly referred to as Ibn Saud),  founder of modern Saudi Arabia, and grandson of the current king.<br />
 His uncle is another Sultan  <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sultan_bin_Salman_Al_Saud" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Sultan bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud</a>.  A leading advocate of teaching Saudis to fly, Prince Sultan is the  founder and Chairman of the Board of the Saudi Aviation Club, and  Chairman of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Khaled_International_Airport" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">King Khaled International Airport</a> (KKIA) Supervisory Committee. Since 2000, he has also headed <a href="http://archive.arabnews.com/?page=1&amp;section=0&amp;article=106705&amp;d=12&amp;m=2&amp;y=2008" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">Saudi Arabia's tourism commission</a>,  placing him among a handful of the King's grandsons to hold ministerial  rank. One of his missions as head of the tourism commission is to  repair the damage to Saudi Arabia's image caused by the 9/11 attacks.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/MUSLIMS-IN-NASA1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/MUSLIMS-IN-NASA-300x1401.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: MUSLIMS-IN-NASA-300x1401.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Prince Sultan bin Salman<br />
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 In a <a href="http://www.aftenposten.no/spesial/wikileaksdokumenter/article4094995.ece" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">document</span></a>  released by Wikileaks, the U.S. Ambassador to Saudi Arabia, James B.  Smith,  characterizes Prince Sultan this way: "With a powerful father  who is the Governor of Riyadh and a strong candidate to be the next  crown-prince, Sultan is well positioned to move up the Saudi government  ranksâ€¦ Sultan has visited almost every state [in the U.S.]. He joked  with the Ambassador that perhaps the only states he has not yet visited  are the Dakotas.' "  (He is extra well connected, with one brother  serving as the deputy oil minister)<br />
 Prince Sultan is closely allied with Prince Bandar bin Sultan bin  Abdul-Aziz Al Saud, the former longtime ambassador to the United States,  who is often called "Bandar Bush" for his friendly relationship with  the Bush family. Sultan and Bandar have worked together for years to  promote Saudi interest in aviation.<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">The Bushes and the Royals</span><br />
 The Bush family have long been regarded as friendly with the prince's  family and their associates. Prince Sultan's NASA mission is perceived  as having been <a href="http://www.debbieschlussel.com/24268/sadly-obama-not-1st-to-use-nasa-for-islamo-outreach-reagan-bush-were/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">orchestrated</span></a>  by George HW Bush as a favor to the Saudis. Associates of the Bush  family have many connections with the Prince's family.  Prince Sultan's  father's legal counsel is William Jeffress Jr, of Houston-based <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baker_Botts" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Baker Botts LLP</span></a>,  where James A. Baker III, longstanding advisor to the Bush family,  including both Presidents Bush, is a senior partner.  At the time of the  9/11 attacks, Baker held the post of Senior Counselor for the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlyle_Group" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Carlyle Group</span></a>, a global asset management firm which is heavily invested in <a href="https://web.archive.org/web/20120211203945/http://www.carlyle.com/Industry/Aerospace%20&amp;%20Defense/item8359.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">military contracting stocks</span></a>;  among Carlyle's large investors were the bin Ladens. (In a curious  coincidence, Baker watched the live television coverage of the attacks  from the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ritz-Carlton_Hotel" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Ritz-Carlton Hotel</span></a> in Washington, where he and representatives of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Osama bin Laden</span></a>s extended <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bin_Laden_family" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">family</span></a>  were attending the Carlyle Group's annual conference. In another odd  coincidence, President George W. Bush himself was in Sarasota, reading  to schoolchildren, at the very time the Sarasota-area-based terrorists  were hijacking the planes. Indeed, he was a short distance from the home  the Ghazzawis had recently abandoned.)<br />
 President Bush's actions in the aftermath of the World Trade Center  and Pentagon assaults with regard to the Saudi royal family have long  been known but have yet to be fully explored. Shortly after the attacks,  President Bush permitted an exception to the ban on air traffic so that  planes could take prominent Saudis out of the country. One of those  leaving on the flights was the late Prince Ahmed bin Salman, brother of  Prince Sultan.<br />
 In a 2004 <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2004/08/03/opinion/l-saudi-flights-after-9-11-507474.html?ref=geraldposner" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">letter</span></a> to the New York Times, Prince  Sultan responded to allegations surrounding those flights, and pointed  to a conclusion in the 9/11 commission report: "Our own independent  review of the Saudi nationals involved confirms that no one with known  links to terrorism departed on these flights." (Another Saudi who left  the US after 9/11 was the architect Abdel <a href="http://www.answers.com/topic/abdel-wahed-el-wakil#ixzz1XaHiJFru" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Wahed El-Wakil,</span></a> who had a base in Miami and serves as an advisor to Prince Sultan.)<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">Allegations of Saudi Royal Complicity</span><br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/oaks61.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/oaks6-300x1981.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: oaks6-300x1981.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Prince Ahmed with his horse<br />
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 Sultan's brother Prince Ahmed was the most westernized of the Saudi  set. He raised racehorses in Kentucky and was the owner of the 2001  Kentucky Derby winner, with the perhaps unfortunate name "War Emblem."  Allegations concerning Prince Ahmed emerged in the 2003 book, Why America Slept, by  the bestselling author Gerald Posner. Posner says that intelligence  sources told him how in March, 2002, under interrogation (but before he  was <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/20/world/20detain.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">waterboarded 83 times in August</span></a>),  Al Qaeda's purported chief of operations, Abu Zubaydah, relaxed and  began cooperating. Tricked into thinking he was in Saudi custody,  Zubaydah asked his interrogators to call a senior member of the Saudi  Royal family, who he said was his contact. He provided, from memory, the  man's private home and cell phones. This contact, according to Posner,  was Prince Ahmed.<br />
 Zubaydah is alleged to have said that Osama bin Laden had cut a deal  with a top Pakistani military official, Air Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir, who  was close to Islamist elements in Pakistani intelligence. According to  this account, the Saudi intelligence chief, Prince Turki, signed off on  this, and agreed to provide aid to the Taliban in Afghanistan and not to  go after Al Qaeda so long as the terrorist group kept its gun sights  trained away from the Saudi royals.<br />
 In this version of events, Zubaydah is said to have also implicated  Prince Sultan, along with another cousin, Prince Fahd bin Turki bin Saud  al-Kabir, as Al Qaeda backers, and to have claimed that the Pakistani  Air Marshal Mushaf Ali Mir and Saudi Prince Ahmed knew in advance about  the 9/11 attacks.<br />
 Though the interrogators were skeptical of these claims, Zubaydah  often proved credible. Information he provided led to the capture of a  senior al-Qaeda operative in Southeast Asia. Zubaydah would only talk  when he thought he was in Saudi hands. When U.S. personnel, no longer  posing as Saudis, confronted him, Zubaydah said he had made up his  earlier statements. But investigators found no basis for believing the  information to be falseand even found material that corroborated his  claimed ties to high level Saudis. Not surprisingly, the Saudi and  Pakistani governments insisted his claims were false in all respects.<br />
 One of the key figures named by Zubaydah, Prince Turki, had been   removed from his position as Saudi intelligence chief on September 1,  2001, ten days before the attacks. Thus, he was apparently not in that  post on the critical day. Yet, his removal was a   temporary absence  from the highest levels of Saudi leadership, and not necessarily an  indication that he had fallen into serious disfavor. The next year, he  was named Saudi ambassador to Great Britain, just as a shift in focus  from Al Qaeda to Iraq was being pitched to the British. If Zubaydah's  claims are at all credible, the removal of Turki from an official  position shortly before the attacks surely warrants additional analysis  as does the Ghazzawis' hasty flight from the U.S. right in the same  time frame.<br />
 <a href="http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/08/9-11-2011-201108#gotopage1" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">According to the book The Eleventh Day</a>, by Summers and his co-author Robbyn Swan, Zubaydah is not alone in asserting a Saudi-Al Qaeda deal:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">In sworn statements after 9/11, former Taliban  intelligence chief Mohammed Khaksar said that in 1998 Prince Turki,  chief of Saudi Arabia's General Intelligence Department (G.I.D.), sealed  a deal under which bin Laden agreed not to attack Saudi targets. In  return, Saudi Arabia would provide funds and material assistance to the  Taliban, not demand bin Laden's extradition, and not bring pressure to  close down al-Qaeda training camps. Saudi businesses, meanwhile, would  ensure that money also flowed directly to bin Laden.<br />
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 Prince Ahmed and another royal, Prince Sultan bin Fahd bin Salman bin  Abdulaziz, were among the fifteen Saudis spirited out of the US, with  President Bush's approval, on September 16, 2001, via Lexington,  Kentuckyi.e., out of Prince Ahmed's U.S. backyard. Prince Sultan bin  Fahd is the nephew of Prince Ahmed and Prince Sultan, and the son of  Prince Fahd bin Salman (see below) who died unexpectedly shortly before  the 9/11 attacks.<br />
 "It appears as if they didn't want to be around to be questioned as  to what role they had played and the best way to avoid that was to get  out of the country," former Senator Bob Graham <a href="http://www.heraldtribune.com/article/20110909/ARTICLE/110909528/-1/sports?p=2&amp;tc=pg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">told</span></a> the Sarasota Herald-Tribune.<br />
 As author Craig Unger notes in his book, House of Bush, House of Saud,  FBI agents were stationed at all points of departure for the group of  Saudis who massed in Lexington before departing the country, yet there's  no evidence they were asked any questions at all.<br />
 Ironically, Posner, who is regularly cited by the corporate media for  his views on the JFK assassination (he is a leading defender of the  conclusion that Oswald was the lone gunman), is largely ignored for his  work on the Saudi-9/11 connection, where he does posit high-level involvement. Posner is a <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/2010/08/26/peculiar-posner/" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">highly controversial</span></a>  and at times perplexing figure, but he insists he has  solid  intelligence sources, and the thrust of his claims have meshed with  those of The New York Times intelligence reporter and best-selling author James Risen. As Risen wrote in his book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/State-War-Secret-History-Administration/dp/0743270665" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">State of War</span></a>,<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">Ever since the September 11 attacks, the trail back from  al Qaeda to Saudi Arabia has been an intriguing path, but one that very  few American investigators have been willing to follow. . . . <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">oth  before and after 9/11, President Bush and his administration have  displayed a remarkable lack of interest in aggressively examining the  connections between Osama bin Laden, al Qaeda, and the Saudi power  elite. Even as the Bush administration spent enormous time and energy  trying in vain to prove connections between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin  Laden in order to help justify the war in Iraq, the administration was  ignoring far more conclusive ties with Saudi Arabia. Those links are  much stronger and far more troubling than has ever been previously  disclosed, and until they are thoroughly investigated, the roots of Al  Qaeda's power, and the full story of 9/11, will never be known."<br />
</div> <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fahd_bin_salman1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/fahd_bin_salman1.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: fahd_bin_salman1.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Prince Fahd bin Salman died six weeks before 9/11 attacks<br />
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 Several of those alleged to have had knowledge of this putative  scheme and its enormous implications met with untimely ends shortly  after Zubaydah's interrogation. In June, 2002, three months after  Zubaydah's capture, the man he identified as his controller, Prince  Ahmed, died of what officials said was a heart attack while asleep.  Another brother of Ahmed's and Sultan's, Prince Fahd bin Salman bin  Abdulaziz, died of a heart attack on July 25, 2001, about six weeks  before the 9/11 attacks. The death of Fahd, who preceded his brother as  head of EIRAD, is described in a Riyadh-datelined article by Middle East  Newsfile, as follows:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">Prince Fahd died suddenly. Prince Fahd did not show any  symptoms of any ailment. He had, however, made an appointment with a  dentist at King Faisal Specialist Hospital in Riyadh to check a  toothache.<br />
</div> A cousin, Prince Sultan bin Faisal bin Turki al-Saud, died when his  car crashed en route to Salman's funeral. Zubaydah had supposedly  implicated Prince Sultan bin Faisal, and another royal, Prince Fahd bin  Turki bin Saud al-Kabir. as Al-Qaeda supporters. All these men were in  their forties. Still another key figure in Zubaydah's monstrous scenario  met an untimely death. On February 20, 2003, Mushaf Ali Mir, the  Pakistani air force chief, his wife and fifteen others, were killed in a  plane crash.<br />
 Not a hint of the above information appeared in the released portion  of the presidential 9/11 commission report. It is not known whether any  of it was in the 28 pages of material about Saudi connections that the  Bush Administration censored on national security grounds.<br />
 [B]A Long-Standing Relationship</span><br />
 The Ghazzawis' relationship with the United States seems to date back  to the 1950's, when U.S. immigration records show that Abbas Ghazzawi  visited New York.  Abbas Ghazzawi was a prominent Saudi attorney. Esam,  whose full name is Esam Abbas Ghazzawi, appears to be his son. (WhoWhatWhy was unable to reach Ghazzawi for comment on any of the matters in this article.)<br />
 Abbas Ghazzawi, arriving on a first class ticket on a connecting  flight that originated in Saudi Arabia, was traveling in an elite  entourage. One companion, Rasem al-Khalidi, was <a href="http://www.eltaher.org/docs_photos/1955-Sayf-El-Eslam-Abdallah-and-Rasem-Al-Khalidi-image910_en.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">a high-ranking Saudi monetary official</span></a>.  Another, Faisal al-Hegelan, would years later serve in the  all-important position of Saudi ambassador to Washington. He held that  post during 1979-1983, a period that partly coincided with the  Reagan-Bush Administration. His replacement was Prince Bandar, the Bush  family friend jokingly called "Bandar Bush."<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudiawacs1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudiawacs-300x1291.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: saudiawacs-300x1291.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>Saudi Air Force AWACS<br />
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 The focus of Saudi royals in their dealings with the United States  can be seen in the conduct of al-Hegelan. As ambassador, al-Hegelan was  principally concerned with propping up the Saudi regime. He had  seventeen military attachÃ©s assigned fulltime to lobby for the sale of  the advanced command-and-control aircraft known as AWACS to the Saudi  air force. (see P. 17 of the book Arab Reach, by Hoag Levins.)   Overcoming heavy pressure on Washington from the Israelis, the Saudis  succeeded in getting Congress to approve the AWACS sale. Al-Hegelan also  led a lobbying campaign against Secretary of State Alexander Haig's  public support of Israel's invasion of Lebanon. President Reagan, with  strong input from his vice president, George H.W. Bush, removed Haig  and  replaced him with George Schultz, who sided with the Saudis;  Schultz had been president of Bechtel, one of the largest construction  contractors in Saudi Arabia, whose projects included the original  Trans-Arabian Pipeline.<br />
 We find the Ghazzawi clan again in the United States in 1970, when  the young Esam married the American Deborah G. Browning. The marriage  didn't last longin July, 1971 they obtained a divorce in Orange County,  California.<br />
 The first sign of the Ghazzawi clan on the east coast of the United  States was in 1992, when Esam bought a penthouse apartment in the D.C.  suburb of Rosslyn, Virginia. In various accounts, Esam is described as a  banker or financier, who also works as an interior designer. He accrued  additional property in Arlington, Virginia and Longboat Key, Florida,  and his name turns up in connection with a fancy office building in the K  Street lobbying corridor.<br />
 In this period, Esam's name surfaced when investigators probing the monumentally corrupt <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bank_of_Credit_and_Commerce_International" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI)</span></a>  sought to recover assets from Saudi Prince Fahd bin Salmanbrother of  Prince Sultan bin Salman.  The prince argued that his assets were being  held in another account under Esam Ghazzawi's name. Only low-level BCCI  officials went to jail in the sprawling scandal, which involved banks  and governments all over the world. Prince Fahd bin Salman is one of the  relatives who died unexpectedly in the year of the 9/11 attacks. (The  Reagan and George H.W. Bush administrations were repeatedly accused by  investigators into the BCCI mess of obstructing their inquiries; it is  worth noting that the Treasury Department official responsible for  scrutinizing BCCI's affairs in the Reagan-Bush administration was  assistant secretary for enforcement John M. Walker Jr.who happened to  be George H.W. Bush's cousin.)<br />
 In 1995, Ghazzawi's daughter Anoud, living in South Florida, married  Abdulaziz al-Hiijii, who was a university student in the area. Esam and  Deborah Ghazzawi, apparently reunited sometime after their 1971 divorce,  purchased the Sarasota home into which the couple moved. Abdulaziz  appears to have received a B.S. and Masters of Information Systems from  the University of South Florida. His Master's should be noted in the  context of only one of two items removed from the Sarasota house before  the couple fleda computer.<br />
 Today, the family seems comfortably ensconced back in Saudi Arabia.  In August, 2003, Abdulaziz al-Hijji became a career counselor at the <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/abdulaziz-alhijji/12/687/6b3" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">government oil company</a>Saudi Aramcoa position he retains to this day. He served on the committee holding a <a href="http://www.eservices-sa.org/Event/UploadFiles/EBook3.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">symposium</a> about electronic services in the eastern (oil-producing) province of Saudi Arabia, held in Khobar in 2008.<br />
 We found the American-born Deborah Ghazzawi, posting <a href="http://bloggerdollar.hubpages.com/hub/How-to-Connect-to-Internet-with-Your-BlackBerry-without-Paying-For-Data-Plan" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">online</a> just three years ago for help on finding her username/password for a Saudi Blackberry sim card.<br />
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 The seeming reluctance of the US government to pursue hints of  possible Saudi complicity in the 9/11 attacks, wherever they might lead,  is hardly an isolated failure. Richard Clarke, the chief  counterterrorism official in both the Clinton and Bush administrations,  has recently <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/11/september-11th-anniversary-richard-clarke-s-explosive-cia-cover-up-charge.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">stated his view </a>that  the CIA made an unsuccessful attempt to recruit two of the hijackers as  double agents before the 9/11 attacks, then scurried to cover up this  bungled effort. Clarke thinks evidence points to the spy agency itself  allowing the hijackers into the U.S. as part of this scheme. If Clarke  is correct, this would be another case of interested parties in the  government keeping the truth bottled up for their own purposes.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudi-king-abdullah-with-Bush1.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/saudi-king-abdullah-with-Bush-300x2501.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: saudi-king-abdullah-with-Bush-300x2501.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>President Bush with Saudi King Abdullah<br />
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 Even more disturbing, the final section of the Congressional  inquiry's report, on "sources of foreign support for some of the Sept.  11 hijackers," was totally redacted. It is still unavailable to the  public on the 10[SUP]th[/SUP] anniversary of the attacks. Both Graham  and his GOP counterpart, Sen. Richard Shelby of Alabama, determined that  national security would not be harmed by releasing those pages. Yet  they were withheldon the orders of George W. Bush.<br />
 Graham told the reporters he thinks suppression of the material  provided "protection of the Saudis from embarrassment, protection of the  administration from political embarrassment â€¦ some of the unknowns,  some of the secrets of 9/11."<br />
 Tellingly, the venerable British insurance company Lloyd's of  London actively investigated Saudi complicity in 9/11. As <a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lloyds-insurer-sues-saudi-arabia-for-funding-911-attacks-2356857.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">reported</span></a> by the U.K. paper The Independent,  a Lloyd's unit has launched what is described as "a landmark legal  case" against Saudi Arabia, claiming that the kingdom is indirectly  responsible for the 9/11 attacks. Lloyd's asserts that Saudi banks and  charities acting as surrogates for the royal family gave the terrorist  group the sustenance it needed to carry out the 2001 assault. (Lloyd's  is seeking to recover sums it paid to firms and individuals affected by  the event.) Reports The Independent:<br />
 <div style="margin-left: 1em;">The legal claim states: "Absent the sponsorship of  al-Qa'ida's material sponsors and supporters, including the defendants  named therein, al-Qa'ida would not have possessed the capacity to  conceive, plan and execute the 11 September attacks. The success of  al-Qa'ida's agenda, including the 11 September attacks themselves, has  been made possible by the lavish sponsorship al-Qa'ida has received from  its material sponsors and supporters over more than a decade leading up  to 11 September 2001."<br />
</div> Bizarrely, several days ago, Lloyd's quietly withdrew its suit,  declining to explain why. But the move was conducted in such a way to  suggest a possible settlement, thereby raising still more questions for  investigation.<br />
 <a href="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/xin_502060604093010913298151.jpg" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><img src="https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/xin_50206060409301091329815-300x2301.jpg" loading="lazy"  alt="[Image: xin_50206060409301091329815-300x2301.jpg]" class="mycode_img" /></a>President Obama with Saudi King Abdullah<br />
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 Meanwhile, in the United States, a growing chorus of voicessome very  establishment voicesare demanding accountability and candor. Graham  and Clarke have now been joined by retired CIA officer Bob Baer, by  several former FBI agents and by Tom Kean, chairman of presidential 9/11  commission, all of whom express concern that the full story has not  been permitted to emerge.<br />
 <span style="font-weight: bold;" class="mycode_b">"No evidence," But None Sought </span><br />
 The 9/11 Commission report "found no evidence that the Saudi  government as an institution or senior Saudi officials" financed Al  Qaeda. But this carefully worded statement does not foreclose the  possibility that members of the Saudi royal family personally provided  financing, or that senior officials funded companies or outsiders that  in turn provided financing.<br />
 Many questions remain to be answered. For example, why did the  Ghazzawi clan flee in such a hasty manner, pausing only to empty their  safe but leaving food on the kitchen counter and their pool pump  running? Was it because they had received some unexpected news, news so  urgent and alarming that normal preparations for an orderly departure  gave way to what appears to be a panicky exit?<br />
 If this question seems inconsequential, think about what kind of  news, in the days just before 9/11, could have prompted such intemperate  flight from the United States by a well-connected clan of Saudis? The  possible answers to this question could prove world-changing.  The most  important Mideast nation so far untouched by the dislocations of the  Arab Spring is Saudi Arabia, the <a href="https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sa.html" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url"><span style="color: #0000ff;" class="mycode_color">single largest supplier of petroleum</span></a>  to the western world. If major players in that country's ruling family  are shown to have had a hand in the 9/11 attacks, it would be the  equivalent of a geopolitical tsunamiupsetting powerful elites around  the world. Is it any wonder that efforts have been made to prevent a  no-holds-barred investigation of this connection? And isn't it time, ten  years later, to end this coverup  in the name of the common good?<br />
 Former Senator Graham, for one, is increasingly adamant. As he told the St. Petersburg Times:  "These 19 people did not play out this plot as lone wolves. The chances  that 19 people, most of whom had never been in the U.S., who did not  speak English, and most of whom did not know each other, could have  completed training, practiced and executed such a complicated plot  defies common sense."]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[A fresh look on 911]]></title>
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			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://deeppoliticsforum.com/fora/member.php?action=profile&uid=183">Carsten Wiethoff</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[It is 18 years since 911. There was no investigation, and if there is no revolution, there never will be one.<br />
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All other questions are secondary, because without a proper investigation, nothing can be known.<br />
<br />
There are some good investigations in the private or research sectors.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately they are not strong enough to cause criminal proceedings.<br />
<br />
Without investigation the guilty will never be known.<br />
<br />
Without criminal proceedings the guilty will never be convicted.<br />
<br />
Please join me in unblocking the system.<br />
I think, a Very Stable Genius is necessary, but he cannot do it alone.<br />
What do you think?<br />
<br />
You could follow me on @phaeton_666.<br />
You can discuss on every street of this whole big beautiful world, which is in grave danger.<br />
<br />
A message to our friends: Go #Antarctica, Greta!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[It is 18 years since 911. There was no investigation, and if there is no revolution, there never will be one.<br />
<br />
All other questions are secondary, because without a proper investigation, nothing can be known.<br />
<br />
There are some good investigations in the private or research sectors.<br />
<br />
Unfortunately they are not strong enough to cause criminal proceedings.<br />
<br />
Without investigation the guilty will never be known.<br />
<br />
Without criminal proceedings the guilty will never be convicted.<br />
<br />
Please join me in unblocking the system.<br />
I think, a Very Stable Genius is necessary, but he cannot do it alone.<br />
What do you think?<br />
<br />
You could follow me on @phaeton_666.<br />
You can discuss on every street of this whole big beautiful world, which is in grave danger.<br />
<br />
A message to our friends: Go #Antarctica, Greta!]]></content:encoded>
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