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Myra Bronstein
04-12-2009, 08:11 AM
The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html. (http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/../books.html)

Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

Thx.

Peter Lemkin
04-12-2009, 08:24 AM
The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html. (http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/../books.html)

Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

Thx.

Oh, my....some rainy day when I'm full of energy I can expand that by 100 fold, literally....and still be citing the best books - but some very arcane ones!

Magda Hassan
04-12-2009, 08:56 AM
Thanks for doing this Myra. Having the definitive book list will be a great resource for everyone.

Paul Rigby
04-12-2009, 09:30 AM
The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html. (http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/../books.html)

Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

Thx.

I nominate two of the greatest pieces of detective work ever committed to print.

The first cited is essential to understanding the deep political tradition of the US; and reminds us - and, boy, do we need reminding - that there was a very different interpretive model flowing within the popular imagination in 1963. (So much so, in fact, that Allen Dulles sought to introduce works to his commissioner colleagues designed to negate it.)

The second shows how well-tried and -tested are some of the techniques of framing and fabrication (and torture); and reminds us that Douglass had at least one precursor in the Catholic tradition in opposition to state terrorism.

Otto Eisenschiml. Why Was Lincoln Murdered? (London: Faber & Faber Ltd., 1937)

John Gerard, SJ. What Was The Gunpowder Plot? The Traditional Story Tested By Original Evidence (London: Osgood, McIlvaine & Co., 1897).

Paul

Myra Bronstein
04-12-2009, 05:28 PM
The first draft of the (Definitive) Book List is accessible via the top Navigation Bar, and at: http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/books.html. (http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/../books.html)

Book suggestions and warnings (about propaganda like Reclaiming History) are needed.

Thx.

I nominate two of the greatest pieces of detective work ever committed to print.

The first cited is essential to understanding the deep political tradition of the US; and reminds us - and, boy, do we need reminding - that there was a very different interpretive model flowing within the popular imagination in 1963. (So much so, in fact, that Allen Dulles sought to introduce works to his commissioner colleagues designed to negate it.)

The second shows how well-tried and -tested are some of the techniques of framing and fabrication (and torture); and reminds us that Douglass had at least one precursor in the Catholic tradition in opposition to state terrorism.

Otto Eisenschiml. Why Was Lincoln Murdered? (London: Faber & Faber Ltd., 1937)

John Gerard, SJ. What Was The Gunpowder Plot? The Traditional Story Tested By Original Evidence (London: Osgood, McIlvaine & Co., 1897).

Paul

Thanks very much Paul. I added them to the list. I never even heard of the Gunpowder Plot so I'm intrigued. I had to look it up to see what it was about.

Ron Williams
04-13-2009, 02:59 PM
One way to approach “conspiracy” books or books about the deep political structures is to have a plan.

I read a lot of books but I didn’t know much of anything useful until I was in my late 40s or so. That was when I discovered Lloyd Miller’s (appropriately named) Project journal. The Project is a periodical that was published in hard copy from 1984 to 1995 by Miller’s organization A-Albionic Consulting and Research.

An early masthead defined it:

An Executive Summary of the Progress
Of a Private Network of Researchers and
Scholars Dedicated to Identifying the
Nature of the Ruling Class/Conspiracy.

and the initial hypothesis (also on the masthead) was:

The British Empire is the Central
Phenomenon of World History
Since the Fall of Rome.

The May-June 1985 Project already had a slightly revised hypothesis:

The British Empire is the Central
Phenomenon of World History
Since the Decline of the Vatican.

…and it was the first “Book Review Issue.” And the first review was of The Empire of the City by E.C. Knuth. The first paragraph:

The Empire of the City: World Super State; 130 Years of Power Politics in the Modern Era by E. C. Knuth is the only book of which I am aware that explicitly approximates the overall conspiracy theory of history which the “Project” is pursuing. Needless to say, it is useless to read the “Project” if you have not read Empire of the City.

The Project is (among many other things) an open ended invitation to a lifetime of study that can lead one in many directions. For example, a student starting at the beginning will get to Lyndon LaRouche—who Miller doesn’t like or trust—in short order. A ground breaking study of Carroll Quigley (Tragedy and Hope, The Anglo-American Establishment) will also soon follow.

One book considered extremely important to The Project is The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age by Dame Frances Yates. This is an example of where I ran into some connections in later reading.

The Project’s study of “City” banking lead me to The Warburgs by Ron Chernow. A fascinating part of that work is to learn about the “black sheep” of the “fab five” Warburg brothers, Aby, who spent much of his life supposedly frittering away some of the hard earned banking wealth of his brothers collecting books, many of them about occult symbolism in art. This led eventually to the establishment of the Warburg Institute which was the publisher of The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age, a book the LaRouche publications also considered very important. So too Peter Levenda:

Dame Frances Yates—the aforementioned historian, of the University of London, the British Academy, the Warburg Institute, and the Royal Society of Literature—has written extensively on the Elizabethan period and the Renaissance, with a particular focus on occult literature, thus elevating the study somewhat above the usual relegation to the attention of cranks and publicity seekers. In her The Occult Philosophy in the Elizabethan Age she make an interesting, if daring, claim that the Puritan movement owed much to occult ideology current in England at the time… (Sinister Forces [book one], p. 16)

In addition to The Project journal, Lloyd Miller’s book catalogs are an education in themselves. I am attaching a copy of an early version. His organization was also in the book selling business at the time.

Does anyone else have an example of a plan they can recommend?

Ron Williams

Ron Williams
04-15-2009, 12:20 AM
Heritage of Stone (1970). Jim Garrison’s post Clay Shaw trial manifesto. More philosophical and analytical than On The Trail of the Assassins. Pays eloquent tribute to the courage and loyalty of his staff “for pressing ahead for the truth” even after they knew they had “taken on forces which were really too great for any district attorney’s office to engage.” Calls for restoration of the republic as the only way to bring the assassins to justice and to reverse the downward slide of the nation. (recommendation – Essential)

Destiny Betrayed: JFK, Cuba, and the Garrison Case (1992). By Jim DiEugenio. Early defense of Jim Garrison written before the release of documents by the ARRB. The beginning of Garrison’s vindication. (recommendation – Essential)

Let Justice Be Done: New Light on the Jim Garrison Investigation (1999), by William Davy. Jim DiEugenio called it “New Orleans de-classified.” Was written after the release of the ARRB records. An important part of the continuing vindication of Garrison. Contains the brilliant Robert Spiegelman Afterword essay: "Garrison’s Invitation to the Millennium Ball: Where Dallas ’63 Meets the Age of Globalization." (recommendation – Essential)

Also regarding Harvey and Lee. I recommend adding something about how it also details like no other book the outrageous malfeasance of the FBI in the JFK investigation.

Ron Williams

Myra Bronstein
04-15-2009, 12:49 AM
Thank you for all your input Ron. I'll add them.

I wonder if we should have a reading list as well, for articles and essays and book reviews and such.

Magda Hassan
04-15-2009, 01:12 AM
Thank you for all your input Ron. I'll add them.

I wonder if we should have a reading list as well, for articles and essays and book reviews and such.

I think that would be fine to have with in the defitive book list.

Myra Bronstein
04-15-2009, 02:08 AM
Thank you for all your input Ron. I'll add them.

I wonder if we should have a reading list as well, for articles and essays and book reviews and such.

I think that would be fine to have with in the defitive book list.

Just have a Definitive Reading List that includes books and articles?

Magda Hassan
04-15-2009, 02:31 AM
That's it! "The Definitive Reading List" Covers all bases.

Myra Bronstein
04-15-2009, 02:51 AM
That's it! "The Definitive Reading List" Covers all bases.

Ok, will do.

Nathaniel Heidenheimer
09-25-2009, 10:21 PM
Love to sound like a broken record and Thy Will Be Done definitely belongs on the list! by Colby and Dennett.

Nathaniel Heidenheimer
09-25-2009, 10:26 PM
I would also have to add Jim Hougan's Secret Agenda. I know there are newer "Watergate books" but none can quite match the springyness of them tangents!

Tracy Riddle
05-30-2014, 01:11 AM
A free PDF of Killing Hope by William Blum from the Internet Archive -

https://archive.org/download/fp_Killing_Hope-US_Military_and_CIA_Interventions_Since_WWII-William_Blum/Killing_Hope-US_Military_and_CIA_Interventions_Since_WWII-William_Blum.pdf

Peter Lemkin
05-30-2014, 05:16 AM
A free PDF of Killing Hope by William Blum from the Internet Archive -

https://archive.org/download/fp_Killing_Hope-US_Military_and_CIA_Interventions_Since_WWII-William_Blum/Killing_Hope-US_Military_and_CIA_Interventions_Since_WWII-William_Blum.pdf

A great book; essential reading to know the hidden history of the USA and its 'allies' and proxies!