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David Guyatt
01-19-2014, 01:44 PM
An interesting conjunction of death, arrest and curious timing.

As we know, Lord McAlpine was innocent of paedophile offences, although he did apparently own and then put up for auction a collection of child porn photo's earlier in his life. It was his cousin, the late Jimmy McAlpine, who was the active paedo in the family and who was connected to the Wrexham care home paedo scandal .

It was announced three days ago by Rebecca Television (http://paddyfrench1.wordpress.com/2014/01/16/gordon-anglesea/) that retired police superintendent Gordon Anglesea was arrested in December on historic offences of physical and sexual assaults against children.

It was announced yesterday by his family that Lord Alastair McAlpine died "peacefully" yesterday evening at his Italian home. He was aged 71.

The question I now ask is what was the identity of the 'police" man or men who told Steve Mesham that his abuser was Lord McAlpine rather than James "Jimmy" McAlpine? This misidentification - which has to be assumed was purposeful and deflective in nature - led to the vast hoohah about Lord McAlpine being the culprit followed by various media outlets, including the BBC, later offering grovelling apologies and paying huge sums in settlement of their misstatements - although the BBC never did name him.

And yes, it's complicated isn't it. The Beeb paid out hard earned taxpayers money to Lord McAlpine in settlement of an allegation they had never actually made. Why?

The words Establishment "stitch up" spring to mind.

To briefly recap:

JUSTICE DENIED (http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/)

People persecuted for political reasons must be defended.

Saturday, 10 November 2012


Looking at the McAlpine question in the North Wales Child Abuse Scandal. In any investigation victim testimony is crucial but children are not reliable when it comes to identifying people who are not in their circle.

This is why initially it falls to the Police to follow every lead and find the truth. In this case Steven Messham handed the North Wales Police hard evidence actual photographs of the abusers. The police informed Steven one of the abusers was Lord Aliastair McAlpine. Following this the police lost the incriminating photographs. Or so Steven Messham was told.

On the 8th of November the Mirror reported that:- "Photographs of men abusing boys in the North Wales paedophile scandal were deliberately destroyed by the authorities. Sian Griffiths worked for Clwyd Council in the inquiry office on the 1994 Jillings and six years later on the Waterhouse inquiry which looked into the systematic abuse at the children’s homes.

Sian Griffiths revelations

She told ITV News (http://www.itv.com/news/update/2012-11-08/council-worker-speaks-out-over-childrens-home-scandal/) that victim Steve Messham’s photos of alleged abuse were ordered to be destroyed.
Mr Messham says photos captured lots of men raping boys, including a prominent Conservative figure he accuses of abusing him.
He says he could see men’s faces clearly, but the police said they could not identify them from the pictures.
Ms Griffiths was asked: “Messham talked about photos that he had of abuse taking place. Do you know what happened to them?”
“We were supplied with copies of court documents…there was an order made for the book of photos to be destroyed.
“So Messham’s photos of alleged abuse…were destroyed?
“They were. Well that’s what’s in court papers – official documents.”
That could have been vital evidence?
“It could. Yes.”


The next day after this admission. Police called Steven in and we are told showed him a photograph. On seeing this photograph Steven went out and publicly apologised to Lord Alistair McAlpine It is now agreed that the abuser was in fact Lord McAlpines, conveniently deceased, cousin Jimmy McAlpine who lived in North Wales where his family had raped the countryside through Quarrying.

If we could be shown the photograph perhaps we could understand why the photograph proved Lord A McAlpine was not the abuser of Steven Messham but his cousin Jimmy McALpine was. And if Jimmy McAlpine was known to the Police as a child rapist why was he never arrested and questioned?

During the Waterhouse inquiry into the North Wales child abuse Lord Alistair McAlpine engaged the services of a barrister to attend the inquiry, as a watching brief, in case his name was mentioned. Why?

Jimmy McALpine

This extract about J McAlpine is re-blogged from The Slog https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/tag/north-wales-care-home-abuse/

I hate to be the first to observe this, but lest we forget, James McAlpine was related to his Lordship, and there has to be a question-mark over why the innocent peer Alastair McAlpine didn’t come forward earlier. The idea that Lord (Alastair) McAlpine didn’t know Jimmie – and wasn’t aware of his proclivities – is only credible if one accepts the concept of the former being deaf and blind to family matters for five decades. Jimmie chaired Alfred McAlpine, and the current Lord McAlpine is a cousin.
There seems to me a strong possibility that Alastair kept quiet to protect the family name. So when he says today that he is “saddened that the media could sink so low”, I’m not sure we should take that assertion entirely at face value.
Founder Alfred McAlpine’s son Robert handed the North West/Wales leg of the family business over to Jimmie in the 1960s. Jimmie’s penchant for juvenile chauffeurs was infamous, and numerous residents in the area surrounding Penrhyn (where the family bought an enormous slate mine) are quite certain he was responsible for multiple cases of care home and other youth-establishment abuses in the Wrexham-to-Chester belt of Britain. The general view there (accompanied by an accepting Welsh shrug) is that, as he was a prominent and influential resident at the time, Plod predictably touched a forelock and left him to continue on a merry dance of rape and ravish."

Although the allegations against Lord McAlpine were first published in Scallywag over 20 years ago and have existed on the internet for years, it is only now that Lord McAlpine has threatened to sue The Rich and Famous can easily use Super Injunctions and the High Court to stem criticism.

Child witnesses would never be prosecuted for getting a name wrong either in the Civil or Criminal Courts. But an Adult risks prosecution in the Criminal Courts for perverting the course of justice. And risks loosing a libel action because to win a libel action Steven Messham would have to prove Lord McAlpine abused him to win, because the burden of proof is reversed in libel law. Steven would also need about £800,000 to even think of defending such an action against someone as rich as Lord McAlpine.

Lord A McAlpine

Which means that unless the Police take action poor people cannott win against rich people and clearly the Police had no intention of arresting or questioning Lord McALpine or his Cousin Jimmy over the serious allegations of child rape, allegations first made over 20 years ago.

But Steven Messham said " After seeing a picture in the past hour of the individual concerned, this is not the person I identified by photograph presented to me by the police in the early 1990s, who told me the man in the photograph was Lord McAlpine.” So it was the Police who led Steven Messham to believe the man who abused him was Lord McAlpine. Why? Also the Police reveal they knew who the child abuser was and left him to abuse more children for another 25 years, There is definately more to be revealed.

From: Justice Denied (http://google-law.blogspot.co.uk/2012/11/mcalpine-and-north-wales-child-abuse.html)

Magda Hassan
01-19-2014, 10:23 PM
You may well say that Lord McAlpine is innocent of offences of pedophillia but I couldn't possibly say.