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David Guyatt
01-20-2014, 11:50 AM
Quite thought provoking (no pun intended).

"Therefore, whatever at your deepest core you expect to happen when you die… Congratulations, that’s what’ll happen… Every religion was right."

From Wondergressive.com (http://wondergressive.com/death-solved-by-vestigial-gland/)




Mystery of Death Solved: DMT is the Key

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— 1 Feb, 2013



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We now know what happens at death:Resting comfortably in the recessed center of your brain, encased snugly within the corpus colossum, wrapped tightly between the dual-hemispheres of spongy nerve bundles, encased in the quarter-inch-thick armor-plating of skull, finally surrounded by your main and expressive organs with which you face the world, exists a tiny gland, long considered vestigial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vestigiality) (serving little to no function), that holds the key to our interpretation of existence as we know it. I’m speaking of the pineal gland (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pineal_gland). This minute spec, roughly the size of a grain of rice, is more heavily protected than even the heart with its literal cage of protection, because if something happens to your heart you die, but if something happens to your pineal, you can’t go to heaven.
Never heard of it?This pineal gland has influences on both melatonin and pinoline, but our interest is in the gland’s role in the creation of dimethyltriptamine (http://www.neurophys.wisc.edu/%7Ecozzi/Indolethylamine%20N-methyltransferase%20expression%20in%20primate%20ne rvous%20tissue.pdf), or DMT. This chemical, DMT, may well be the reason we, as a species, are capable of sentience (http://www.medical-hypotheses.com/article/S0306-9877%2808%2900398-8/abstract) itself.
I’m not a chemist; break it down.First, DMT is a narcotic, schedule 1. It’s one of the most highly illegal substances on the planet (on par with plutonium), because DMT is the most potent hallucinogen known to man. Intensely powerful. Yet, every day your pineal produces this stuff.
Secondly, DMT is the chemical that elicits dreams (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0306987788900643). That’s right. Each night as you drift to slumber-land, not only are you tripping on a psychedelic but you’re premeditatedly committing a federal offence; it’s a felony.
And third, this illegal gateway to dreamland is released in massive amounts at the moment of death. When I say massive, if a water glass of DMT evokes a dream, at death, an equivalent river excretes into your system. Any druggies reading this (http://books.google.com/books?id=rQeeTNHjdtgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=isbn:9780892819270&hl=en&sa=X&ei=VzsAUdTGFManrAGgj4CQDg&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q&f=false)?
How have I not heard of this before?Well, the pineal’s significance is neither a new idea, nor an unfounded one. Spanning the expanse of human civilization runs an undercurrent of worshipful adoration to the almighty pineal, more widely known as the inner eye, all-seeing eye, or the like – considered the body’s gateway to the soul.
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Egypt had its Eye of Horus (now emblazoned on the US dollar bill). Hindu culture has its bottu (the familiar forehead dot). Even the ancient art of yoga recognizes the brow chakra, or ajna, as blossoming at the pineal, or third eye. That’s only to name a few (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_eye).
The hell you say! The truth behind the cult of the pineal has gone largely unnoticed collectively, though the symbols themselves have been downright ubiquitous (http://thirdeyeactivation.com/2012/09/third-eye-images-and-symbols-around-the-world/). Tibetan Buddhists, as well, have long carried a belief that the soul enters the fetus precisely 49 days after conception. (http://people.rit.edu/cakgss/bookdead.html) Likely, reading this, you are not a Tibetan Buddhist – their numbers fall less than 20 million – and whether you subscribe to an eternal soul or not isn’t the point, because day 49 is the moment the pineal is formed in a fledgling brain (http://books.google.com/books?id=xB4wuDs8qCcC&pg=PA105&lpg=PA105&dq=49+days+pineal&source=bl&ots=LWRPjj6EyU&sig=IpoUPJfNQPxlC9UyBY93ElZveSU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=8S4AUdCyBIO7rQH7wIGIAw&ved=0CGcQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=false).
Great, so what does all this have to do with death?Well, on a chemical level, shrooms distort perception, coke smacks you with raw energy, ecstasy grants superpower orgasms (ladies), or most notably, weed slows time – time distortion seems to go hand in hand with most psychedelics as well – so time passage then is totally subjective. Ask Einstein (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_relativity).
Meanwhile, among DMT smokers, in the macrocosm of potential experiences, (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/subs/exp_DMT.shtml) two major themes emerge nearly universally:
1) A stretching of time – they experience the hectic 6 or 7 minutes as a near eternity or lifetime. Imagine Cobb’s 50 year night in Inception.
2) They experience religious incarnations with a tilt toward whatever sect the subject is affiliated with.
Here’s the clincher: after death, while this massive psychedelic dose courses around the brain, there is this mysterious several minutes (http://www.popsci.com/sam-barrett/article/2008-10/first-few-minutes-after-death) where the brain still functions (http://www.jonbarron.org/article/brain-functions-even-after-death). With our new perspective, however, we at last understand what these minutes are…
These few minutes after death, subjectively, are experienced as an eternity, engrossed in the DMT universe. Also, the trip itself is a highly personal experience dictated by the deepest realms of the subconscious.
Therefore, whatever at your deepest core you expect to happen when you die… Congratulations, that’s what’ll happen… Every religion was right.
Mystery solved. Peace on earth.
If you’re resourceful, you can find this stuff and try it. The bigger question now is do you really want to know where you’ll be spending eternity?

Peter Presland
01-20-2014, 03:11 PM
Quite thought provoking (no pun intended).


Hmmm . .. That's opened up a 7 year old can of worms for me. Browse this Google search (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=MI6+and+Pineal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=IzbdUrj3JIfY7AbBoIDQDQ#q=MI6+and+Pineal&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=0) and a few of the links with familiar names on it (John Scarlett, Stella Rimmington, Vlad Putin and a good few more) and you'll see what I mean. I spent many hours trawling through this stuff back then - even archived it all locally in case it disappeared. I posted something on it here a few years later as I recall.

It's bizarre, bizarre, bizarre - but with just a smidgeon of something (including links to verifiable but startling and little-known facts), that kept me engrossed for quite a while. I still wonder about it.

David Guyatt
01-20-2014, 04:31 PM
Quite thought provoking (no pun intended).


Hmmm . .. That's opened up a 7 year old can of worms for me. Browse this Google search (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=MI6+and+Pineal&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&gws_rd=cr&ei=IzbdUrj3JIfY7AbBoIDQDQ#q=MI6+and+Pineal&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&start=0) and a few of the links with familiar names on it (John Scarlett, Stella Rimmington, Vlad Putin and a good few more) and you'll see what I mean. I spent many hours trawling through this stuff back then - even archived it all locally in case it disappeared. I posted something on it here a few years later as I recall.

It's bizarre, bizarre, bizarre - but with just a smidgeon of something (including links to verifiable but startling and little-known facts), that kept me engrossed for quite a while. I still wonder about it.

My first reaction on checking your Google link, Peter, was it's the usual zany Illuminati stuff of which the internet is famous for.

But then I saw the Richard Tomlinson blog, and I know Tomlinson to be a genuine whistleblower and highly intelligent too. So after my initial surprise, the immediate question was do we actually know if this is the real Tomlinson speaking, or someone faking it in his name (A Six spite blog or more likely, a blog thought up by an American teenager hillbilly conspiracy loon - judged on the images at the bottom of the blog)?

So, I strongly suspect it is a fake site.

Tomlinson wasn't a computer geek, but tough guy -- former 23 SAS and after joining MI6 (not MI5) became an operative in the SOV/OPS - Soviet Operations and later other field operative roles.

The blog also claims that Tomlinson was sent on a Royal Arch freemasonry course in Israel. I mean, the mind boggles.

Was your interest in the mind control aspect of the story, or the activation of the pineal gland as a means of roaming "inner space"?

Keith Millea
01-20-2014, 04:57 PM
Every now and then I am reminded about Aldous Huxley's deathbed injections of LSD.To me,it has to be the greatest experiment ever on consciousness at the time of soul transformation.And,takes more guts than I ever could have.The one problem though,is that nobody will ever know what the experience was,except of course Aldous.

I've never taken DMT before.So,this is an interesting web page on the effects of DMT by people most of us can all recognize.

A quote from Alan Watts


It's like loading the Universe into a gun, and shooting it into your brain.
~ Alan Watts

Check it out....

http://dmtsite.com/dmt/experience/descriptions_of_experience.html

David Guyatt
01-20-2014, 06:57 PM
Every now and then I am reminded about Aldous Huxley's deathbed injections of LSD.To me,it has to be the greatest experiment ever on consciousness at the time of soul transformation.And,takes more guts than I ever could have.The one problem though,is that nobody will ever know what the experience was,except of course Aldous.

I've never taken DMT before.So,this is an interesting web page on the effects of DMT by people most of us can all recognize.

A quote from Alan Watts


It's like loading the Universe into a gun, and shooting it into your brain.
~ Alan Watts

Check it out....

http://dmtsite.com/dmt/experience/descriptions_of_experience.html

It's a soft spot for me too, Keith.

I agree with the Terence McKenna quote at the top of the page btw, that "one cannot be heard". Deep experiences of this nature cannot be conveyed except to others who have also walked in both worlds. That is why past travellers speak in mysterious terms and symbols. In doing this they are leaving behind them a journal of their travels - although few would be able to see that.

Personally, I disagree with using any sort of chemical or plant substance to act as a "propellant". It's a personal thing, but also a teaching. The problem I have with this approach, is that conscious control of the here and now is lost once you are on your journey. There are - and so far as I can discover, have always been - techniques that one can learn in a disciplined way that achieves the same, or even better results, without any loss of consciousness. You can be fully "there", but also "here" at the same time. There will be no "bad trip". But there will be plenty of trips.

I say better results, because you can control which part of the Collective Unconscious you visit. You need a roadmap to do that, but with training, this is achieveable.

It is a complex subject. One last thing to add, I think, is that there are people who are born with this ability close to the surface. Travelling in that other world is not a particularly difficult transition. For these people it like falling in a swimming pool. Jung developed his own technique for doing exactly this; he called it "Active Imagination". But it's been around in one form or another for thousands upon thousands of years.

Just a personal perspective is all.

Peter Presland
01-20-2014, 08:23 PM
My first reaction on checking your Google link, Peter, was it's the usual zany Illuminati stuff of which the internet is famous for.

That's just what I try to filter out too. Those blogs are different from run of the mill stuff of that sort though. I really don't know what to make of them.



But then I saw the Richard Tomlinson blog, and I know Tomlinson to be a genuine whistleblower and highly intelligent too. So after my initial surprise, the immediate question was do we actually know if this is the real Tomlinson speaking, or someone faking it in his name (A Six spite blog or more likely, a blog thought up by an American teenager hillbilly conspiracy loon - judged on the images at the bottom of the blog)?

So, I strongly suspect it is a fake site.

Well the RT one is certainly not owned or run RT and they are all dormant too, but several of the sites reference the blogs he DID try personally to keep on line whilst being pursued through France. I actually have a local copy of one of those. I also posted comments on it - or one of them - in response to his detailed complaints about the behaviour of named SB policemen in harassing him and refusing to return his computer. He did not appreciate them much. They were along the lines of - "well what the hell do you expect from a plod under orders to make life difficult for a national security renegade" or WTTE. I was somewhat naive and unguarded about such things myself at that time you see- but so, it seemed to me was he. He was ostensibly suing MI6 for unfair dismissal - I ask you - what DID he expect? - that whining in public might make them less antagonistic? He actually appeared pretty naive to me too.

The sites are not cobbled together by ' an American teenager hillbilly conspiracy loon ' either. Out of curiosity in 2008, I actually paid a visit to the ex-Powergen office block in Solihull mentioned in a couple of the blogs and their comments sections. It was exactly as described - from the outside that is - a big 60's era concrete monstosity, a bit run down, partially occupied by assorted small-name operations. Much of the blogs content evidences educated English authorship too.



Tomlinson wasn't a computer geek, but tough guy -- former 23 SAS and after joining MI6 (not MI5) became an operative in the SOV/OPS - Soviet Operations and later other field operative roles.

The blog also claims that Tomlinson was sent on a Royal Arch freemasonry course in Israel. I mean, the mind boggles.


Indeed it does. I've read his book 'The Big Breach (https://wikispooks.com/wiki/File:The_Big_Breach.pdf)' and no mention of any of this in it either.



Was your interest in the mind control aspect of the story, or the activation of the pineal gland as a means of roaming "inner space"?


It just revived memory of those blogs and the elementary research I did on them back then, that's all. The 'surgical removal of the pineal gland' for mind-control purposes rang bells. Frankly I was surprised to see them still up.

Magda Hassan
01-21-2014, 12:35 AM
A quote from Alan Watts


It's like loading the Universe into a gun, and shooting it into your brain.
~ Alan Watts
Wow. Graphic. Interesting web site too Keith.




There are - and so far as I can discover, have always been - techniques that one can learn in a disciplined way that achieves the same, or even better results, without any loss of consciousness. You can be fully "there", but also "here" at the same time. There will be no "bad trip". But there will be plenty of trips.

I say better results, because you can control which part of the Collective Unconscious you visit. You need a roadmap to do that, but with training, this is achieveable.

One last thing to add, I think, is that there are people who are born with this ability close to the surface. Travelling in that other world is not a particularly difficult transition. For these people it like falling in a swimming pool. Jung developed his own technique for doing exactly this; he called it "Active Imagination". But it's been around in one form or another for thousands upon thousands of years.


This! A thousand times!

David Guyatt
01-21-2014, 10:06 AM
A quote from Alan Watts


It's like loading the Universe into a gun, and shooting it into your brain.
~ Alan Watts
Wow. Graphic. Interesting web site too Keith.




There are - and so far as I can discover, have always been - techniques that one can learn in a disciplined way that achieves the same, or even better results, without any loss of consciousness. You can be fully "there", but also "here" at the same time. There will be no "bad trip". But there will be plenty of trips.

I say better results, because you can control which part of the Collective Unconscious you visit. You need a roadmap to do that, but with training, this is achieveable.

One last thing to add, I think, is that there are people who are born with this ability close to the surface. Travelling in that other world is not a particularly difficult transition. For these people it like falling in a swimming pool. Jung developed his own technique for doing exactly this; he called it "Active Imagination". But it's been around in one form or another for thousands upon thousands of years.


This! A thousand times!

Aye. The Hero With A Thousand Faces...

David Guyatt
01-21-2014, 10:16 AM
Thanks for your respond Peter. More than interesting. Also the below:




The sites are not cobbled together by ' an American teenager hillbilly conspiracy loon ' either. Out of curiosity in 2008, I actually paid a visit to the ex-Powergen office block in Solihull mentioned in a couple of the blogs and their comments sections. It was exactly as described - from the outside that is - a big 60's era concrete monstosity, a bit run down, partially occupied by assorted small-name operations. Much of the blogs content evidences educated English authorship too.



An MI6 spolier op do you think then?

On the pineal gland aspect, I wonder if this was connected to the Grillflame, Stargate, Remote Viewing/Psychic Spying research of General Stubbelbine, Ingo Swann and assorted others? It would've been right up their street.

Peter Presland
01-22-2014, 08:05 AM
An MI6 spoiler op do you think then?


I don't know what to make of it (them) David. There's a lot of pretty defamatory stuff on that group of blogs. The only one I know of that was removed by Blogger was on Andrew Marr - similar accusations (probably true too) of him being an MI6 operative + loads of stuff to make your hair curl. Hundreds of comments (mainly by a handful of ID's) on some of them too. I read the lot. As I recall there was an official blogger notice up at the Marr address for a while stating it had been removed because of complaints about defamatory content. Funny thing is some of the ones still up are just as defamatory of people like John Scarlett and Stella Rimmington and yet they remain.

Those blogs were part of my going deep down the rabbit-hole of mind-control about 6-7 years ago. Alice-in-Wonderland is a good analogy for the things I found - as of course are a number of other 'kiddies' sagas. I don't regret going there but, the deeper I went the more remote from 'reality' I became. Also some of the Monarch programing and related child abuse stuff gets very difficult to stick with. I ended up with a clear understanding of the sickening ongoing reality of these things but decided I just didn't have the stomach to research it properly myself.

Maybe those blogs - and other stuff like them ARE part and parcel of it all - a labyrinthine system of blind alleys leading nowhere.



On the pineal gland aspect, I wonder if this was connected to the Grillflame, Stargate, Remote Viewing/Psychic Spying research of General Stubbelbine, Ingo Swann and assorted others? It would've been right up their street.

I agree it would. More names and events I dabbled with. Like I said - a can of worms was opened.

David Guyatt
01-22-2014, 02:15 PM
An MI6 spoiler op do you think then?


I don't know what to make of it (them) David. There's a lot of pretty defamatory stuff on that group of blogs. The only one I know of that was removed by Blogger was on Andrew Marr - similar accusations (probably true too) of him being an MI6 operative + loads of stuff to make your hair curl. Hundreds of comments (mainly by a handful of ID's) on some of them too. I read the lot. As I recall there was an official blogger notice up at the Marr address for a while stating it had been removed because of complaints about defamatory content. Funny thing is some of the ones still up are just as defamatory of people like John Scarlett and Stella Rimmington and yet they remain.

Those blogs were part of my going deep down the rabbit-hole of mind-control about 6-7 years ago. Alice-in-Wonderland is a good analogy for the things I found - as of course are a number of other 'kiddies' sagas. I don't regret going there but, the deeper I went the more remote from 'reality' I became. Also some of the Monarch programing and related child abuse stuff gets very difficult to stick with. I ended up with a clear understanding of the sickening ongoing reality of these things but decided I just didn't have the stomach to research it properly myself.

Maybe those blogs - and other stuff like them ARE part and parcel of it all - a labyrinthine system of blind alleys leading nowhere.



On the pineal gland aspect, I wonder if this was connected to the Grillflame, Stargate, Remote Viewing/Psychic Spying research of General Stubbelbine, Ingo Swann and assorted others? It would've been right up their street.

I agree it would. More names and events I dabbled with. Like I said - a can of worms was opened.

I've been reading some more of these pages, Peter, particularly the Scarlett and Rimington blogs. There certainly is, as you indicate, an internal logic to what is being conveyed. For me, it is far more occult associated than mind control. But unpleasant all the same. I wonder if they are some sort of worm on a hook, waiting for a juicy fish to come along? I'm gong to do some more reading on it.