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Magda Hassan
10-06-2008, 03:26 PM
This is a great book and Jeff Sharlet is a great writer. Insightful. Sharp. A traveler into a secret society. He bring a story we should learn from most carefully. Jeff wrote an article some years ago in Harpers magazine http://harpers.org/archive/2003/03/0079525. It is from this article that this book came about.

Through serendipitous circumstances Jeff was able to become part of The Family. To live with them, pray with them, build networks with them. Then he wrote about them. Shortly after leaving them he discovered that The Family had dumped 600 boxes at the Billy Graham centre archives in Illinois. So he moved there, got an apartment and spent every day going through this archive, photocopying as much as he could get as quickly as he could because he just knew they would eventually restrict the archive. And they did.

While the Pat Robertsons and Jerry Falwells of the world take our attention others have been quietly and silently working behind the scenes. Reaching into the highest levels of power in every institution in the US and internationally. The Family have chosen themselves to be the chosen ones believing that God has broken his covenant with the Jews and formed one with them. The Family has been around since the 1930's. Started in the US by a Norweigian immigrant who heard God 'speak' to him The Family is now led by Doug Coe.

Labor disputes are seen as an affront to God. The workers must submit to the bosses who God has chosen to lead. In its early years Hitler and other fascists were much admired by The Family and other elites for their organisational efficiency. They have befriended almost every criminal, shyster, exterminator and dictator in the world these last 70 years. They still do. Democracy is also an affront to God. God chooses the elite to lead. Not the masses to be in charge of their own lives. Democracy has run its course.

Why haven't we heard of them? They themselves wish it that way. All the easier to infiltrate, indoctrinate and subordinate. When Jeff wrote this book members of The Family were not upset by what he wrote but that he wrote at all. It was seen as a betrayal but they do not dispute his truth. But another reason we haven't heard of them is the media and its supine reverence for authority and the unquestioning role of religious ideas in public life in the US.

It was, however, noticed by some in the media.

Jeff says "In 1974 Playboy has a long investigative piece that shows money moving around in fishy ways. Nothing happens. Dan Rather challenges Nixon's press secretary about why Chuck Colson, the Nixon dirty-trickster who'd been given the boot, was still showing up at the White House? Press secretary says, "He's there for prayer meetings." But then no follow-up. So this goes on every so many years. And in the '90s a Florida paper noted that Taiwan was forking over big chunks of change in order to get good seats at the National Prayer Practice because they understood this was a backdoor into American power. In 2002, The Los Angeles Times did a year-long investigation. Should have been a huge follow-up. Nothing."

Just some of the members of The Family include Senators Don Nickles (R., Okla.), Charles Grassley (R., Iowa), Pete Domenici (R., N.Mex.), John Ensign (R., Nev.), James Inhofe (R., Okla.), Bill Nelson (D., Fla.), and Conrad Burns (R., Mont.) are referred to as “members,” as are Representatives Jim DeMint (R., S.C.), Frank Wolf (R., Va.), Joseph Pitts (R., Pa.), Zach Wamp (R., Tenn.), and Bart Stupak (D., Mich.). Regular prayer groups have met in the Pentagon and at the Department of Defense, and the Family has traditionally fostered strong ties with businessmen in the oil and aerospace industries. The Family maintains a closely guarded database of its associates, but it issues no cards, collects no official dues. Like the Mafia which they resemble in many ways its members are asked not to speak about the group or its activities. It is a multi national business has a multi million dollar income and pays no tax. G.W. Bush is said to be one. They have their finger on the red button and they hear voices from God.

Magda Hassan
09-13-2009, 02:19 PM
Posting this here as I came across it tonight and it has some very interesting stuff in it and it predates Jeff Sharlet's publication of his book 'The Family' and his recent publicity about that organisation.

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From: [Wayne Madsen]
Date: Fri, 31 Dec 2004 17:27:11 EST

Subject: End of Year Update on Investigation

To: [JamBoi]

Here is an update of where the investigation is heading -- many strings must be tied together but a clearer picture of how this Election Fraud 04 was done is beginning to emerge. The follow the money trail is leading to some interesting places. (JamBoi edit note. There's a picture here -- I'll have to figure out if I can load it somehow -- )

Kay Stephenson, CEO of Datamaxx (she looks like her, but it's not Laura Bush)
She is close to both Jeb Bush and Colin Powell. Powell has visited her a number of times in Tallahassee.
Before Datamaxx was formed, its contracts were about to go to Seisint, a Tampa company allegedly tied to mob money. It operates Accurint, and was recently bought out by Lexis.
Interesting note is that Datamaxx uses Accurint for its database. Datamaxx has made a killing in law enforcement/homeland security contracts after 911.
-- Now people will wonder what this has to do with the election fraud. Here it is in a nutshell. These people, along with ChoicePoint of Dallas, TX, are personal data miners. And Datamaxx is tied to Ohio law enforcement data bases and communications.
Where did the Katherine Harris get the info to throw all those African American voters off the rolls in 2000 in Florida? Public and commercial database records, everything from DMV files to education and insurance records. They red lined poor African American and working class white districts just like credit card and mortgage companies do. And how did they know where to put only 2 voting machines in polling places in Ohio for use by over 3000 voters? Same process. They red lined those districts and knew where to put the Election Day squeeze on.
Fundie churches with names like the Abundant Love Tabernacle and Fellowship Worship Center were great places to pull off this fraud with Blackwell's election officials conspiring with local fundie preachers. (Just a thought, if we have separation of church and state in this country, why the hell do we permit voting to take place in churches, especially where the preachers and lay leaders are corrupt and in on the fix?) Al Gore visited a Buddhist temple in California once and the right wing wanted him impeached!!
Datamaxx has Homeland Security contracts in Ohio, Florida, Iowa and West Virginia. In Ohio, they can send out homeland security alerts using computer networks and wireless PDAs. Guess what? All were swing states and in Warren County, Ohio an unofficial "threat" was "transmitted" to Election Board HQ on Nov. 2. FBI and police said it wasn't them. Well, maybe it was Datamaxx using their retired FBI agents and cops (who were in cahoots with the fundies, Rapps of Triad, O'Dell at Diebold, Ahmanson and McCarthy Group of ES&S, and Blackwell and Taft GOP political machines in Columbus).
As for Seisint, where do they do most of their work? Boca Raton, Florida and Orlando, Florida. Boca is in good old Palm Beach County, where absentee ballots turned up missing before election day. And Orlando -- home of good ole Rep. Tom Feeney, chief touch screen vote rigging suspect and Yang lobbyist, as well as FL Secretary of State Glenda Hood (fitting name), former Mayor of Orlando. And Seisint's new corporate parent is based where? Lexis-Nexis is in Dayton, OHIO.
You see, the more the Bushes fire additional government insiders, the more stuff is leaked to me about this election fraud. This smoking gun is just a bit different than 2000. Instead of disenfranchising over 90,000 black voters in FL by calling them "felons" (and using ChoicePoint data base to do it), this time, the election voting machine companies (all run by extreme right-wing [Dominionist], "End Timers") conspired with the homeland security and other database firms -- all conveniently located in FL, OH, and TX -- to rig the vote.


Researchers should keep focusing on Yang, Seisint, Datamaxx, Accurint, Lexis-Nexis, Triad Government Systems, Diebold, Global Election System, Hart InterCivic, DBT Online and ChoicePoint.
The jury is still out on Affiliated Computer Systems (ACS) of Dallas, but a certain Stephen Goldsmith, former GOP Mayor of Indianapolis, may be into some dirty business there involving red lining districts with high college student voting population (Indiana, home of several large universities, may have had its vote "hacked" as well). Gary Webb was investigating ACS and contract fraud in CA when he committed suicide on Dec. 10.
We also know that Florida DOT investigator Ray Lemme committed suicide in 2003 when he was investigating fraud involving Yang and the FL state government. House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence Executive Director John Millis committed suicide in 2000 when he was investigating CIA ties toLatin American drug cartels, links that involved the Bush family. State Dept. Iraq intelligence analyst John Kokal committed suicide in late 2003 after he questioned the attack on Iraq. Former CIA official Dr Gus Weiss committed suicide after he, too, questioned the attack on Iraq in late 2003. Dr David Kelly of Britain's MOD committed suicide after he questioned the validity of Iraq WMD reports. Danny Casolaro committed suicide in 1991 after he investigated Bush ties to weapons smuggling and drug deals. Paul Wilcher, a friend of Sarah McClendon, died in his apartment after he picked up on some of Casolaro's research. Charles Ruff and HPSCI's ranking member Julian Dixon dropped dead only weeks apart after being briefed by Millis on CIA-Bush-drug connection.
What was Gary Condit, also of HPSCI, briefed on by Millis? What did Condit tell his friend Chandra Levy, an intern for the Federal Bureau of Prisons. Or what did he ask her to find out for him through her Bureau contacts? John F Kennedy Jr was working on a Bush-CIA-covert ops story for his George Magazine when his plane crashed. And what did poor Lori Klausutis discover before her body was discovered in Jan. 2001 in the FL office of GOP Congressman Joe Scarborough (the MSNBC colleague of someone who has made it his cause to rip apart my reporting on this election story)? Cliff Baxter, chief Enron witness for the govt. shot himself before he testified. John Tower had the goods on the Bushes, but his commuter plane crashed and killed him, his daughter and several other passengers. Paul Wellstone and his family and staff? Mel Carnahan? Bush biographer JH Hatfield? Athan Gibbs, the founder of TruVote International, the only clean election machine company. And the list goes on and on. At least those who are merely being fired -- the latest being the Pentagon's Jack Shaw, are getting the easier "treatment" from the Bush Mafia.
There were also anomalous Governor's Elections in Washington and Puerto Rico, where Democrats, expected to win handily, just squeaked through by a fraction of a percent. This is an indication of vote fixing a la FL in 2000 and Ohio, Iowa, NM in 2004. Elections that close with millions of people voting have never happened before in our nation's history.
Not only this last election but several previous ones were "fixed" by a dangerous group of right-wing ["Dominionists"] who dominate the election machine industry and various GOP Secretary of State and congressional offices.
They (known as "The Fellowship" ) have been planning this coup for a very long time but now that their "man" is in the White House they are not about to leave through a fair electoral process.
The Fellowship has some very unsavory founders -- all pro-Nazis: Abraham Vereide, Frank Buchman, and Gustav Gedat, J. Edgar Hoover and James Jesus Angleton were close to the Fellowship.
The use of prison ex-cons like Marion "JR" Horn in KY, John Elder and Jeffrey Dean in WA, and others in the financing and carrying out of the rigging, was mostly arranged through Chuck Colson's Prison Fellowship Ministries, an organization that has carte blanche access to anyone deemed of value, epecially computer programmers, after their incarceration and upon their release, especially if they promise service in return for parole.
It also helps that the Fellowship has established strong links to corrupt African governments via fundie missionaries. Guess who's largely behind the Nigerian scams to secretly move dirty oil money from oil-rich Nigeria (and Equatorial Guinea and Angola) into the funding corrupt election manipulators and Enron/Halliburton/AES scams? Some of those "419 emails" have been discovered by US intelligence to contain coded instructions to the money launderers and financial manipulators in the States and in off shore bank havens like the Bahamas and Tortola. The Nigerian scammers operate from the southern Christian south of the country (Lagos and the Niger River Delta) and are in league with fundie Church missions there and in the States.
The Fellowship is now trying to take over government boards in my county of Arlington, VA and are making a major power play in Annapolis, MD. Tom Feeney, Ashcroft, DeLay, Bush (Dubya and Jeb), Cheney, Sean O'Keefe, Condi Rice, John Bolton, Ed Meese, [Charles] Colson, Brownback, Ralph Reed, Frank Wolf, Ernie Fletcher, Katherine Harris, [Newt] Gingrich, JC Watts, Burr, Jindal, Lamar Smith, Zach Wamp, Scalia, Ensign, Kyl, [Kenneth]Blackwell, Bob Ehrlich, Karl Rove, Jack Kemp, James Baker, Clarence Thomas, Tom Coburn, Asa and Tim Hutchinson, Gens. Boykin and Myers, DeMint, Curt Weldon, Grover Norquist, George Allen, [Rick] Santorum, are all in this group. The late Lee Atwater was close to this group.
The Fellowship, which has strong links to the "Rev." Sun Myung Moon's Unification Church, operates in cells and not only takes over governments but also local church congregations to further their goals. Two local congegations taken over by the Fellowship are Falls Church Episcopal and Cherrydale Baptist. They also maintain the private Riverdell School, another way to brainwash young children who are not already being brainwashed by home schooling.
The Prime Minister of Norway has just been outed as a member of this group. In fact, most of the so-called "Coalition of the Willing" nations' leaders are members of The Fellowship, e.g., Tonga, Macedonia, Palau, Netherlands, Bulgaria, Lithuania, Solomon Islands, Uganda, Rwanda, Guatemala, El Salvador, Denmark, Romania, Iceland, Fiji, Georgia, Colombia, possibly also Howard of Australia and Blair of Britain.
The Fellowship believes that ANYTHING is permitted in order to bring about a 1000-yr Kingdom of Christ on Earth, and that includes stealing elections and even murder.
Some of the money used by the Fellowship to obtain real estate and maintain their group came from Saudi Arabia through lucrative defense contracts and pass throughs like the Islamic Institute.
There are links between the Fellowship and other northern Virginia groups In their group homes in Arlington it is obvious they keep the troubled teens of GOP big businessmen and politicians out of sight through a combination of intensive Bible study and "drug treatement." Noelle Bush may have been one of their "Guests/Victims." There should be a focus on Infinity Software of Tallahassee, the place Noelle was put to work when she was busted for trying to illegally obtain prescription drugs in 2002. The Arlington VA Fellowship homes caused a stir in 2003 when one young resident broke into 4 homes in the neighborhood to steal prescription drugs. What is it that these young men and women are afraid of by doing anything to get their hands on Xanax and Valium? One of my neighbors said the teens appear to be unusually "expressionless" for people their age.
One of the really unplesant things about the Fellowship is that they have an international "Youth Corps," so these people don't appear to want to go out of business any time soon. This Youth Corps has a presence in almost every country, from Bhutan to Zambia and Brazil to Albania.
Infinity, like Datamaxx, has contracts with the FL Dept. of Law Enforcement and Dept of Education. FL state auditors chastised Gov. Jeb Bush and his administration for paying Infinity $7.5 million to set up a Web site and do another, much smaller, job in a no-bid contract. Infinity's owner, Tom Lynch, is a big Bush supporter who gave money to the governor's reelection campaign - $500 to Bush in 2002 and $1,000 to the Republican Party in 2001. Also seems that Infinity's contract had a nice little cut out for another company -- Ignite! of Houston, TX -- headed by Bush's brother Neil (of Silverado S&L criminal infamy).
I am getting great support from a number of people inside and outside the government who believe this group must be "outed" and dealt with as any other dangerous cult would be. These are not Jim Jones' followers or Marshall Applewhite's Heavens' Gate people we're talking about. These Fellowship people want to take us all with them. The earthquake and tsunami in the Indian Ocean is just what these people are waiting for -- the more death and destruction the better as far as they are concerned. I suggest we all work together and not against one another to expose these people. Those who hide behind the veil of "non-partisanship" should just keep quiet if they are not going to join the effort. We all have enough to do without incessant carping from those who believe it is wiser to sit on the sidelines. A re-read of William Shirer's "Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" may be in order for those who believe neutrality and non-partisanship is the better course. As the son of a WW II refugee from the Nazis, I can tell you that neutrality in times such as these just does not work and is definitely not advised.
Wayne Madsen
31 Dec 04
Let's hope 05 brings us more answers and some indictments of these bad actors!

Helen Reyes
09-13-2009, 04:11 PM
What Atta and Marwan were arguing about offers clues to what was going through their heads, and strangely, although the terrorist pilots have been universally labeled "Islamic fundamentalists," what they were pounding the table over wasn't an argument about fine points in the Koran...

They were arguing about money.

"The big guy was pounding his fist on the table, saying ‘We’re talking $200,000! We’ve got to answer to the Family!" recalls Renee Adorna, who with her husband Tom own and manage the restaurant.

"I thought they were Mafia, and tried to stay away from their table."

"There were three of them, and they all looked of the Egyptian persuasion," she continued. "Dark skin, dark hair. They were dressed in Florida-type shirts, you know, the silk with the pattern. And they were all wearing lots of jewelry… Lots of jewelry."

"And I could have sworn that the one guy was wearing a cross, you know, the big gaudy gold cross on the chest. But I’m not sure now. But I know he had a big watch on," Renee says.

Says Waitress of Terror Pilots: "I Thought They Were Mafia!"
http://www.madcowprod.com/issue20.html

re: "Fellowship" Eastern European leaders mentioned by wayne madsen: Valdas Adamkus of Chicago/Kaunas fought under Nazi command, worked for a Catholic youth organization in occupied Germany, relocated to America where he worked in military intelligence, was appointed by Nixon to Nixon's EPA and served as an envoy to Poland and USSR under Nixon, returned to Lithuania and ran for president in 1998 despite the fact he did not meet residency requirements (for which other canidacies were rejected), distinguished his presidency by trying to instill a tradition of annual prayer breakfast meetings, and when he failed to win a second term, the winner, rolandas paksas, was removed in a people power color revolution type coup (with colin powell whispering in the ear of the foreign minister, a deep-cover KGB agent, just to make sure they knew how things were supposed to turn out), after which adamkus resumed the presidency. supported invasions of and/or sent troops to iraq and afghanistan, was in DC on 911 to meet bush jr.

Dawn Meredith
09-13-2009, 09:58 PM
MSNBC's Rachel Maddow did a several night expose of "The Family" a few weeks ago. One would have thought that other media outlets would have then picked up on these incredible revelations of Senate and Congress members who admit that they have no regard for the law, admire Hitler, believe they can act contrary to the law because they are "Chosen by God".
This stuff makes Watergage abuses look like Sunday School.
Alas, Rachel was the only one to air this filthy laundry.

Dawn

Magda Hassan
09-14-2009, 02:06 AM
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re: "Fellowship" Eastern European leaders mentioned by wayne madsen: Valdas Adamkus of Chicago/Kaunas fought under Nazi command, worked for a Catholic youth organization in occupied Germany, relocated to America where he worked in military intelligence, was appointed by Nixon to Nixon's EPA and served as an envoy to Poland and USSR under Nixon, returned to Lithuania and ran for president in 1996 despite the fact he did not meet residency requirements (for which other canidacies were rejected), distinguished his presidency by trying to instill a tradition of annual prayer breakfast meetings, and when he failed to win a second term, the winner, rolandas paksas, was removed in a people power color revolution type coup (with colin powell whispering in the ear of the foreign minister, a deep-cover KGB agent, just to make sure they knew how things were supposed to turn out), after which adamkus resumed the presidency. supported invasions of and/or sent troops to iraq and afghanistan, was in DC on 911 to meet bush jr.

Very interesting Helen. I don't get too much news down my way about the finer details of Lithuanian politics so this is all new to me. The Baltic states look like they are all US/NATO colonies now for the most part at least. The US has nurtured the extreme right and fascisitic elements since the post war and now they have been reinserted into power and picking up where they left off. Not too much remembering and lots of forgetting.

Helen Reyes
09-14-2009, 07:10 AM
Alex Jones interviewed the author about a month ago. It's still on the archive page somewhere. I didn't catch much useful information from the interview.

The Baltics are a weird mix. The president of Latvia was for years this Canadian Latvian woman who seemed to be a foundation creature. The leadership structures are mostly filled with Soviet bureaucrats and assets. Then you have the right wing nationalists who think they engineered independence, and their sympathies lie with those brave Nazi collaborators who tried to save the country from Bolshevism in 1941 by killing civilian women and children en masse. This leads to strange contradictions such as Riga, Latvia outright banning any gay pride march, but allowing SS "veterans" to march annually. To be fair Latvia stopped giving official sanction to the SS marches, and did allow a gay pride march once now, after EU accession, but the counter-demonstration against the gays was much larger. And the heiress apparent to Adamkus in Lithuania seems to be a lesbian in hiding, former EU commissioner, former Social Democrat (=Communist) apparatchik etc. Does that mean gays can now march in Vilnius? Very doubtful. Unpolitic. It's not safe for the President to come out, but it didn't matter Adamkus was a Nazi. It probably helped him.

As for the Hopsicker article I quoted above that seems to refer to the 911 "hijackers" and the Family, I can't imagine why two Arabic native speakers would heatedly argue about money iin public in English, unless they wanted everyone to overhear.

Peter Lemkin
09-14-2009, 09:41 AM
I had a thread on this here http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1967&highlight=family+christian+fascism
You might want to append them....or just consult either.

Jan Klimkowski
09-14-2009, 06:37 PM
The president of Latvia was for years this Canadian Latvian woman who seemed to be a foundation creature.

The following may have no significance whatsoever.

However, I would interested in learning more of the former Latvian president's work on experimental psychology and memory, conducted at McGill University, at a crucial time in that institution's history.


Vaira V??e-Freiberga was born Vaira V??e on 1 December 1937 in Riga, Latvia. At the end of 1944, as Soviet occupation of Latvia begun, V??e's parents escaped to Nazi Germany. There she received her first education in Latvian primary school at refugee camp in Lübeck, Germany.


Upon graduation, V??e became a clinical psychologist at the Toronto Psychiatric Hospital in late 1960. She left in 1961 to resume her education at the McGill University in Montreal while also lecturing part-time at Concordia University. She earned her PhD in experimental psychology, graduating from the university in 1965.


Donald Ewen Cameron (1901-1967) was a Scottish-American psychiatrist. Born in Bridge of Allan, he graduated from the University of Glasgow in 1924.

Cameron lived and worked in Albany, New York, and was involved in experiments in Canada for Project MKULTRA, a United States based CIA-directed mind control program which eventually led to the publication of the KUBARK Counterintelligence Interrogation manual.

Cameron was the author of the psychic driving concept which the CIA found particularly interesting. In it he described his theory on correcting madness, which consisted of erasing existing memories and rebuilding the psyche completely. After being recruited by the CIA, he commuted to Montreal every week to work at the Allan Memorial Institute of the McGill University, and was paid $69,000 from 1957 to 1964 to carry out MKULTRA experiments there.


In 1965, Vaira V??e-Freiberga took the post of Professor of Psychology at the University of Montreal where she taught psychopharmacology, psycholinguistics, scientific theories, experimental methods, language and cognitive processes (in French). Whilst working at the University, V??e-Freiberga also researched memory processes and language as well as producing several papers on the problems and influences of drugs on the mind. She became a well-known figure on the political speaking circuit and often spoke on radio, TV or in schools in English, French and Latvian. V??e served on many councils and organisations in high positions. These include:

Member of the Post-doctoral Fellowship Selection Committee of the Natural Sciences and Engineering Research Council of Canada (1975–78)
Member of the Board of Directors of the Social Science Federation of Canada (1977–82). She served as President from 1980 to 1981.
Member of the Board of Directors of the Canadian Psychological Association (1976–82). She was President from 1980 to 1981.
Appointed Canadian member and Chair of the Special Panel on Human Factors of the NATO Scientific programme in Brussels (1978–81)
Member of the Board and Executive Committee of the Canadian Federation for the Humanities (1980–82)
Member and president of organising committees of various national and international symposia and conferences (1982–86)
Member of the Consultative committee on Mental Health Research, Health and Welfare Canada (1983–86)
Member of the Board of Directors of the Association for the Advancement of Baltic Studies (1982–88). She was President from 1984 to 1986.
Member of the Science Council of Canada (1980–83). She appointed Vice-President in 1984 by the Governor-General of Canada and served in the position until 1989.
In 1994, she was appointed a Member of Council and later President of the Academy of the Royal Society of Canada. She ceased all activity with this organisation in 1999. She was also a Member of the Killam Research Fellowships and Prizes Selection Committee from 1995-1998. V??e-Freiberga served on the Canadian governmental consultative committee on the disposal of nuclear waste in 1996 but continued to teach at the University of Montreal. In June 1998, she was made a Professor Emerita and took this opportunity to return to Latvia.

Magda Hassan
09-14-2009, 10:23 PM
Well spotted Jan!

Helen Reyes
09-16-2009, 02:56 PM
I would interested in learning more of the former Latvian president's work on experimental psychology and memory, conducted at McGill University, at a crucial time in that institution's history.



Wow. I guess I heard about McGill in both cases but didn't make the connexion. It's a big university I guess, so who knows. I remember the Economist magazine did a one page feature on Freiburg when she was made Latvian president, about how cool she is etc. It mentioned her doctoral thesis topic I think. As I remember it, it was something about psychology and mythology, but this was a long time ago. I also happened to see her once at some function. Elderly, fake smile, would probably feel at ease rubbing elbows with European royalty but doesn't mind slumming it up with Eastern Europeans for the time being. An impression.

About half of Latvia speaks Russian, and in Riga more than that, and not Latvian. Latvians speak Russia too of course. Anyway, in Riga the Russians refuse to speak Latvian and the Latvians refuse to speak Russian, pretty much. There are a lot of stateless Russians in Latvia, the independent state that emerged in 1991 considered the Russians illegal immigrants. Estonia pretty much adopted the same policy. That's why the Arctic Sea story features 4 or more stateless hijackers. So Vaira Vike Freiburg during one of her campaigns said she was going to learn Russian. I guess she tried and failed, or at least gave up on the idea pretty soon; she never learned Russian.

Helen Reyes
09-16-2009, 04:13 PM
I think this is the Alex Jones interview:
http://rss.infowars.com/20090728_Tue_Alex.mp3

Jan Klimkowski
09-16-2009, 06:14 PM
I would interested in learning more of the former Latvian president's work on experimental psychology and memory, conducted at McGill University, at a crucial time in that institution's history.



Wow. I guess I heard about McGill in both cases but didn't make the connexion. It's a big university I guess, so who knows.

I agree that McGill is of course a big place.

Cameron's work was 24/7 and would have needed lots of bright young research students. Most of them remain unidentified.

However, no direct connection is proven as yet.


The psychic driving procedure was a chronological precursor to Cameron's Depatterning, the latter involving massive doses of electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) combined with similarly large doses of psychedelic drugs (such as L.S.D.). The intent was to break down the subject's personality--theoretically psychic driving could then be used with some efficacy in establishing a new personality.[2] In Cameron's Depatterning, the ECT would often continue to be administered despite the manifestation of convulsive fits, which were consensually considered to be contraindications to normal and safe ECT procedure. Such biologically and psychologically devastating procedures, adopted internationally by the psychiatric establishment, were largely abolished by the time the CIA was brought before a Senate Hearing (1977)[3] for its involvement and funding of Cameron's experimental activities—as part of the MKULTRA Program.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_driving

Officially, Cameron's psychic driving and depatterning could easily have been described as experimental psychology in the field of memory and personality.

Naomi Klein powerfully uses Shock Therapy as both a metaphor for key events in late C20th geopolitical history, and as a descriptive term for the true nature of Chicago School economics.

Shock Therapy resonates.

As do its victims....

Magda Hassan
09-17-2009, 04:53 AM
The following may have no significance whatsoever.

However, I would interested in learning more of the former Latvian president's work on experimental psychology and memory, conducted at McGill University, at a crucial time in that institution's history.


Here is her Doctoral thesis Jan. Interesting stuff it is too.

http://digitool.library.mcgill.ca:8881/R/?func=dbin-jump-full&object_id=20027&local_base=GEN01-MCG02

http://digitool.library.mcgill.ca:1801/view/action/singleViewer.do?dvs=1253160454041~798&locale=en_US&show_metadata=false&preferred_extension=pdf&search_terms=SYS%20=%20000001249&adjacency=N&application=DIGITOOL-3&frameId=1&usePid1=true&usePid2=true

Hyperactivity in children and effects of chlorpromazine on learning. Husband is Prof IF Freibergs who wrote the FORTRAN programme for data analysis. No obvious trace of Cameron but I need to check.

Helen Reyes
09-17-2009, 10:58 AM
Hyperactivity in children and effects of chlorpromazine on learning. Husband is Prof IF Freibergs who wrote the FORTRAN programme for data analysis. No obvious trace of Cameron but I need to check.

Chlorpromazine is that hypnotic that causes memory loss iirc. Side-effects include personality dissociation, if it's what I think it is.

FORTRAN is a computer language, not a progam. It stands for FORmula TRANslation, was state-of-the-art in academia (especially math, computer science, statistics) and business for many decades until mid-70s. After 1977 it delcined and was practically dead by 1986, soon to be followed by COBOL. COBOL's last gasp was the Y2K scam.

It's probably a coincidence but another Latvian was mentioned recently on the forum in connexion with the Indio, California base and Customs. I think his name was Vidnieks, also spelled Vidniex.

I'm going to dig through boxes of old magazines and try to find what the Economist wrote about Vaira Vike...

Jan Klimkowski
09-17-2009, 04:39 PM
Hyperactivity in children and effects of chlorpromazine on learning. Husband is Prof IF Freibergs who wrote the FORTRAN programme for data analysis. No obvious trace of Cameron but I need to check.

Chlorpromazine is that hypnotic that causes memory loss iirc. Side-effects include personality dissociation, if it's what I think it is.

Cameron was attempting to destroy memory to create a tabula rasa - a blank brain - that he could then programme to produce a model and compliant citizen (aka sheep).

Cameron was using the crude tool of ECT, which is actually rather disturbing for the medical staff utlizing it. Unless they're sadists and powerfreaks...

Chlorpromazine is Thorazine (or Largactil in Europe). Thorazine was a major MK-ULTRA drug. It was also found in copious quantity at Jonestown.


Chlorpromazine largely replaced electroconvulsive therapy, psychosurgery, and insulin shock therapy. The development and marketing of antipsychotic drugs was one of the forces that propelled deinstitutionalization, which is the systematic removal of people with severe mental illness from institutions like psychiatric hospitals. In 1955 there were 558,922 resident patients in American state and county psychiatric hospitals. By 1970 the number dropped to 337,619; by 1980 to 150,000; and by 1990 between 110,000 to 120,000 patients.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chlorpromazine

It can therefore be argued that Chlorpromazine/Thorazine/Largactil is a form of chemical ECT.

Not proof. But mighty interesting research to be conducting at the same medical institution where Ewen Cameron - like some hubris-filled deity - is running amuck, with official approval, using ECT to "depattern" the human brain.

Once the human brain has been transformed by Shock Therapy into a tabula rasa, then it needs to be reprogrammed.

Like a computer....


FORTRAN is a computer language, not a progam. It stands for FORmula TRANslation, was state-of-the-art in academia (especially math, computer science, statistics) and business for many decades until mid-70s. After 1977 it delcined and was practically dead by 1986, soon to be followed by COBOL. COBOL's last gasp was the Y2K scam.

It's probably a coincidence but another Latvian was mentioned recently on the forum in connexion with the Indio, California base and Customs. I think his name was Vidnieks, also spelled Vidniex.

I'm going to dig through boxes of old magazines and try to find what the Economist wrote about Vaira Vike...

My antennae are twitching frantically...

:vollkommenauf:

Helen Reyes
09-17-2009, 05:19 PM
I guess the Economist got thrown out, can't find it. Should be from 99 or 2000.

Imants Freibergs sure didn't invent FORTRAN, Backus did. I thought it was created by the creator of ALGOL, Backus. Maybe IF just stole the name for some program he wrote. There's a Backus family in Chicago who own and operate some Lithuanian museum there. Probably not related.

This might be the Economist article I read, but doesn't sound like it:


Vaira Vike-Freiberga, a Canadian-European

Article Abstract:

The new president of Latvia, Vaira Vike-Freiberger, left Latvia with her parents when she was seven-years-old, and the family eventually migrated to Canada. She does not speak Russian, and has little knowledge of Latvian politics, and lacks a political base. She was selected as an outsider and may have some advantages due to her outsider status. She is also popular among ethnic Latvians. She speaks five languages so can present a new image to the outside world at a time when Latvia aims to strengthen links with the European Union.

Publisher: Economist Newspaper Ltd.
Publication Name: The Economist (UK)
Subject: Business, international
ISSN: 0013-0613
Year: 1999


According to this list of abstracts by VVF, she's heavily into experiments with hypnotics, pain, prozac and lithium:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?Db=pubmed&Cmd=Search&Term=%22Vikis-Freibergs%20V%22%5BAuthor%5D&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsP anel.Pubmed_DiscoveryPanel.Pubmed_RVAbstractPlus

Jan Klimkowski
09-17-2009, 05:43 PM
From Was Jonestown a CIA medical experiment? by Michael Meiers.


XII ONE COOKIE

The first outsiders to reach the Jonestown Medical Clinic in
the aftermath of the carnage found enough drugs to supply an
average U.S. city for over a year. Predominant in the stock
of narcotics were the hypnotic drugs Pentothal and Nembutal
as well as over ten thousand injectible dosages of a
chloral-hydrate compound known as chlorpromazine or
Thorazine. Thorazine increases the production of certain
histamines in important parts of the brain. It is used
primarily to alter the violent behavior of mental patients
and, according the one article published by the Black
Panthers, Thorazine and its related compounds are common
ingredients in the CIA's MK ULTRA experiments. The article
buttressed its argument by quoting Jones who reportedly told
a visiting Swiss psychologist that his Black followers were
given Thorazine on a regular basis as per orders of the CIA.
Although these drugs are used to alter a person's behavior,
it is highly unlikely that they were the test drugs used in
the Jonestown experiment as Jones would never have allowed
such incriminating evidence to be




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discovered in the aftermath. The two unidentified drugs used
in the experiment were far more advanced than those found in
the rubble of Jonestown but, due to the top secret nature of
the experiment, the precise chemical formulas will never be
disclosed.

In order to accurately compare the effects of mind control
or behavior modification drugs on a group of test persons
all other stimuli must first be removed. The jungle
community provided the isolation necessary for Jones to
substitute himself for all outside influences of society.
Jonestown residents were forbidden to consume alcohol,
tobacco and even sugar; necessary but ironic as Guyana ranks
among the world's sugar-producing nations. The diet of
Jones-town, though prepared by the kitchen staff, was under
the direct and stringent control of the medical staff. Once
all outside influences had been removed and "ground zero"
reached, the medical staff proceeded to drug the different
test groups without their knowledge. Since the intent was
long-term control, the drugs were administered in small
repeated doses rather than one large dose. The most
successful drug tested could then be deployed in society by
introducing it into fast foods or the water supply or the
glue on the back of postage stamps.

A few visitors to Jonestown noted that the residents were
drugged. One such observer was Frank Tumminia, the State
Department's desk officer for Guyana, who visited Jonestown
on February 2, 1978, with John Blacken, the Deputy Chief of
Missions at the United States Embassy in Georgetown.
Tumminia stated:

One of the things that struck me at the time and
upon which I



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remarked to Embassy staff as well as to
Department officials, was my feeling that many
of the people with whom I met and spoke appeared
drugged and robot-like in their reactions to
questions and, generally, in their behavior
towards us visitors.[165]

Tumminia and Blacken held positions in the State Department
that were very important to this story. Tumminia's
predecessor was President Kennedy, who was so concerned
about a possible communist take-over in Guyana in the early
1960's that he personally manned the Guyana desk at the
State Department to direct the efforts of the CIA operatives
there. Among the operatives was one Jim Jones. Blacken's
successor was CIA operative Dick Dwyer, who would be present
at the airstrip to witness the assassination of Congressman
Leo Ryan.

Though it will never be known which mind control drugs were
administered to the test persons, it is known _h_o_w the drugs
were administered. In the post-Jonestown murder trial of
Larry Layton, the defense attempted to establish that Layton
had been drugged into participating in the assault team that
killed congressman Leo Ryan and others at the airstrip.
According to his defense lawyer, "Layton looked spaced out
and was mumbling of a CIA conspiracy during the fatal
airstrip shootout.[166] Prosecution witness Dale Parks, a
member of the Jonestown medical staff who allegedly defected
with the Ryan party and wrestled the gun from Layton at the
airstrip, was pressed under cross-examination to admit to
drugging Layton and


____________________

[165Y]ee and Layton, P. 213.

[166"]Some Emotional Arguments in Layton's Murder Plot Trial,"
_S_a_n _F_r_a_n_c_i_s_c_o _C_h_r_o_n_i_c_l_e_, August 19, 1981.



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others. According to a newspaper account of the court
proceedings:

Parks agreed that large quantities of Thorazine
and other drugs used in mental hospitals were
available at Jonestown, but he denied knowing
that milk shakes "spiked" with so-called mind-
control drugs were given to Jonestown cultists
on a regular basis.[167]

If milk shakes were used in administering the drugs , the
practice was abandoned early in the experiment as this
method would have been terribly inefficient. The
experimenter would not have been able to determine if the
test person had consumed the entire drink (hence the
premeasured dosage) or, worse yet, had given some of their
drink to others unobserved. Also, the milkshake containers
might survive and under chemical analysis expose the true
nature of the experiment.

Larry Layton's sister, Deborah Layton Blakey, hinted at the
truth in her post-defection affidavit that warned of the
threat of mass suicide in Jonestown , "On Sunday we each
received a cookie. "[168] She later elaborated on her
statement in an account published in the Layton family's
history in which was written:

But the culinary high point came every week on
Sunday evening, when the entire population would
line up to receive a cookie from the hand of Jim
Jones. The


____________________

[167"]Layton Trial Told of Jones' Brutal Control," _S_a_n
_F_r_a_n_c_i_s_c_o _C_h_r_o_n_i_c_l_e_, August 29, 1981. 168Yee and Layton,
P. 333.

[168Y]ee and Layton, p 333.



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cookies, made from cassava flour , were the only
sweets allowed in Jonestown, and they were doled
out by Jones himself.[169]

The cookies were made in Jonestown's "Experimental and
Herbal Kitchen" that a 1977 Temple brochure described as:
"The all-purpose kitchen where meals and treats are provided
for workers and residents."[170]

The test drugs were added to the cassava flour in the
Jonestown flour mill. It was quite simple to keep the
batches of flour, hence cookies, separated through the
baking and distribution process. Extreme precautions were
required in handling the potent drugs and the "Experimental
Kitchen" soon adopted the stringent procedures of a research
laboratory, as indicated by this published Temple report:

The dishes are cold water rinsed, washed and
stacked, then washed in a soapy detergent with
bleach and boiling water and put away...all
surfaces are continually scrubbed and sanitized
from ceiling to floor to provide the most
healthful environment.[171]

On Sunday evening, as each of the test persons approached
the throne, Jones would select a cookie from one of the
three containers at his side. He was intelligent enough to
have memorized which test persons were in which group but,
more than likely, the person's group was designated by his
or her Temple membership



____________________

[169I]bid., P. 199.

[170N]aiPaul, P. 133.

[171I]bid. P. 134.




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number or perhaps just in the predetermined perhaps order in
which they lined up every Sunday evening to receive their
one cookie.

One and only one cookie was the rule._ _ _N_o_ _o_n_e_, not even a
preferred aide who otherwise enjoyed special privileges, was
allowed more than one cookie. On one occasion, a young
Black girl who was baking the cookies, in the kitchen,
unaware that the flour had been spiked with drugs, handed
one out an open window to her boyfriend. Temple guards, who
monitored every step of the cookie production, reported the
infraction to Jones. At the next community-wide meeting, the
young girl and boy were called to the stage, ordered to
disrobe and forced to have sex in full view of the entire
congregation. Such was the humiliating punishment for
violating the one cookie rule and understandably so, as such
an infraction would alter the controlled dosage and taint
the test results.

There were only two other mandatory weekly rituals in
Jonestown and both were related to the one cookie. The first
was a weekly TPR examination in which the medical staff
examined each of the test persons and recorded their
temperature, blood pressure, respiratory system, weight and
other health monitors in the Test Person's medical records.
This was necessary to determine if the mind control drugs
could be detected in standard medical examinations. Though
the average American might have a physical examination once
in five years, and the medical profession recommends (to
their profit) a yearly exam, the Jonestown residents
received a weekly examination. The second weekly ritual in
Jonestown was the White Night rehearsal in which Jones
ordered his congregation to




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drink what they were told was poison and commit suicide for
the "cause."

Following the final White Night, the Jonestown guards
identified the dead and catalogued them in two separate
groups, those who voluntarily drank cyanide and those who
had to be forcibly injected. This took time to accomplish
which accounts for the long delay before outsiders were
allowed to enter the compound. As the cause of death was
noted on the medical records of each Test Person, the
corpses were dragged to one side and placed in neat, orderly
piles. This was a mistake, as death from cyanide poisoning
is preceded by such violent contortions that victims often
die with only the top of their head and the heels of their
feet touching the ground. The Jonestown residents could
never have died in the neat, orderly piles in which they
were found.

The medical records, the embodiment of racial weaponry, were
missing in the aftermath of Jonestown which was another
mistake. The existence of such extensive records had been
well documented and their absence in the aftermath confirms
that some unknown residents escaped and considered the
records worth taking; an interesting priority judgment
considering that several hundred thousand dollars in cash
was not taken. It would have been better to have kept two
separate sets of medical records and left one phony copy
behind but, considering the complexity of the project, Jones
is granted these few damning mistakes.

END 12

http://www.fonebone.net/Jonestown/12.Chap.txt

Magda Hassan
09-18-2009, 02:18 AM
Vaira V??e-Freiberga was born Vaira V??e on 1 December 1937 in Riga, Latvia. At the end of 1944, as Soviet occupation of Latvia begun, V??e's parents escaped to Nazi Germany. There she received her first education in Latvian primary school at refugee camp in Lübeck, Germany.
Upon graduation, V??e became a clinical psychologist at the Toronto Psychiatric Hospital in late 1960. She left in 1961 to resume her education at the McGill University in Montreal while also lecturing part-time at Concordia University. She earned her PhD in experimental psychology, graduating from the university in 1965.Because of her age it wasn't her decision but it is interesting that the family went to Nazi Germany as refugees in 1944. Which makes me wonder if they were not collaborators, and to what extent. After all, they could have gone by boat the Sweden or elsewhere like others. She also lived in French Morocco and somewhere she also picked up Spanish as a language and worked as a translator.