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David Guyatt
12-02-2014, 01:16 PM
The following Youtube clip shows a water borne jumbo crane lifting a 10 story superstructure weighing 3000 tons on to a ship.

Todays technology is a marvellous thing.


A few thousand years ago there were no jumbo cranes.

Which makes it all the more curious how the following stone megalithic block weighing 1,650 tons could have been manoeuvred or lifted into position?

From io9.com (http://io9.com/archaeologists-discover-the-worlds-largest-ancient-ston-1664281050)

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See that absurdly massive stone block? Yeah, that's not the one we're talking about. Look over to the right. German archaeologists working at the Baalbek site in Lebanon have uncovered the largest known ancient block.
The fully exposed block, which dates back to around 27 B.C., is the well known Hajjar al-Hibla. It's located in a stone quarry at Baalbek (http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/294), site of the ancient Heliopolis in Lebanon. Similar stone blocks measuring up to 20 meters (65 feet) in length and a diameter of 4 x 4 meters (13 x 13 feet) were used for the podium of the massive Temple of Jupiter (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_baalbek_2.htm) in the Roman sanctuary of Baalbek.
A few months ago, a team from the German Archaeological Institute conducted excavations at the quarry, and to their amazement they found an ever bigger stone just off to the side and underneath it. It measures 19.6 meters (64 feet) in length, 6 meters (19.6 feet) wide, and is at least 5.5 meters (18 feet) high. Its weight is estimated at a daunting 1,650 tons (that's 3,300,000 pounds, or 1,496,850 kg). Future excavations will confirm its precise dimensions.
The archaeologists concluded that because of the stone's configuration and level of smoothness, the block was meant to be transported without being cut. It's thus the biggest stone block known from antiquity. They're now investigating why the stone was not completed and remained in the quarry — and by what means the Roman builders had to transport it.

Archeologists believe this was a Roman megalith. However, Graham Hancock (https://www.facebook.com/Author.GrahamHancock/photos/a.10151524582402354.1073741825.31260747353/10152905660077354/?type=1), who has an interest in these things, believes these are far older than that.

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I made a research trip to Lebanon in July 2014 and reported here on the recent discovery of a third gigantic megalith in the quarries at Baalbek (in the Beqaa Valley), about a kilometre from the famous Roman temple of Jupiter. Now we have more information from the German Archaeological Institute that has been studying and measuring the newly discovered megalith which is described as 19.60 metres long, 6 metres wide and at least 5.5 metres high. Its weight is estimated at about 1,650 tons which makes it significantly more massive and significantly heavier than the two previously known blocks in situ in the quarry. The German Archaeological Institute's findings are set out on the following pages: (1) http://bit.ly/1uWvgvs (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F1uWvgvs&h=mAQE2Mhxz&enc=AZNn0kiKtxoHyUc7THKFcVPHomrTW553xxKYf-AKnbYGAre2jLZafWtVu6yCl158vBTI5EXOc5cfbFsNGb1IJe4v fa1-_1hVMnvii7276Alwm84lV8qwSi96cIrnUJq0JEGi9JreZgaYKF Ua1Y0TWGDG&s=1); (2) http://bit.ly/1uRZsIi (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F1uRZsIi&h=HAQFDHmEt&enc=AZMknhAogNFAoGIeJG_lMBetXGX11dZuI7J9STNaJox4FY nNH8bIdjQbalnlRdFfoD970-nb9u1t5ZQyZbJRXLSo_RM305mrBLcI7cPgLfiZ7rr0cCcUPVfw cgDhUQJKne-AaRGVUmzG2u2aHnLo2HD1&s=1); (3) http://bit.ly/1FGdQLQ (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F1FGdQLQ&h=GAQGd5cQK&enc=AZMTQZXSlcivbivsUEHSm9lEXJ3KQhsNSM0aAckh-wi7PWt3fN55eS60glXVLASXwZxkVV0QAJTvHqStSnAGCq6-WTWYj5wpe8Ysk2HmwyPlp7QGuFy3dfDQ1W_rdcjHkgKZt88hik 4NTs73TypYHmRl&s=1); (4) http://bit.ly/1FFWxso (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2F1FFWxso&h=nAQHo-13O&enc=AZO7gnysK5ezGlN93DNZb8mzlotlenHnbEOeFUwEbZSB_6 TUUVAdp9cvoaEMMqvj_DFP6ypixcWFRL-fYpwGQ9Cj2r_Nj8UXSl21RHCMBMdC_WZn5c1hlX50oA4VHNkci _XlNvSxSJc2OW9vVBScpi4w&s=1). The newly discovered block is shown in the attached collage of photographs that I presented here on 11 July. I am standing on it in the photo at top left and it's front edge is shown in the photo at mid-left. For the record I do NOT agree with the mainstream archaeological view that any of the three megalithic blocks in the quarry, or the enigmatic megalithic foundations of the Temple of the Jupiter, are the work of the Romans. I believe these huge megaliths long predate the construction of the Temple of Jupiter and are likely to be 12,000 or more years old -- contemporaneous with the megalithic site of Gobekli Tepe in Turkey. I suggest we are looking at the handiwork of the survivors of a lost civilisation, that the Romans built their Temple of Jupiter on a pre-existing, 12,000-years-old megalithic foundation, and that they were unaware of the giant hewn megaliths in the ancient quarry as these were covered by sediment in Roman times (as, indeed, the newly discovered block still was until very recently). I set out my reasoning for this point of view in my post of 14 July and both my 11 July and my 14 July posts are pasted in again below for reference.

My post of 11 July 2014. Click link to see photos referred to in post: (https://www.facebook.com/Author.GrahamHancock/photos/pb.31260747353.-2207520000.1417276842./10152591539632354/?type=3&theater)

The attached collage of photos is intended to help those who are interested to understand the situation of the main megalithic blocks still in the quarry at Baalbek in Lebanon.

I've stood in on three of the five photos for scale (top left, bottom left and bottom right). These photos feature the so-called "Stone of the Pregnant Woman" which is estimated to weigh a little more than 1,000 tons. Immediately left of it in the photo at bottom left a second huge (mainly buried) megalith has recently been uncovered. I'm standing on top of this recently uncovered megalith in the photo at top left. The photo at left centre shows the front end of this newly uncovered megalith.

The photo at top right is of a third megalith in a different part of the quarry that is now used as a rubbish dump (hence the black tyres chucked on top of it). Although this megalith looks smaller than the "Stone of the Pregnant Woman" large parts of it are still buried and calculations suggest it weighs in excess of 1,200 tons.

Please note the megaliths featured in this collage are ALL still in the quarry. They are not part of any structure. In a separate post at the weekend or on Monday I will focus on the megaliths, some weighing in excess of 800 tons, that were moved a distance of about a mile from the quarry to create a giant platform on top of which the Romans later built a Temple of Jupiter. Mainstream archaeology says all this quarrying and moving of huge megaliths was done by the Romans. Unsurprisingly I believe mainstream archaeology to be wrong! I'll explain further and show photos of the huge blocks on top of which the Temple of Jupiter is built in my next post.

My post of 14 July 2014. Click link to see photos referred to in post (https://www.facebook.com/Author.GrahamHancock/photos/pb.31260747353.-2207520000.1417276842./10152597881907354/?type=3&theater)

I'm not persuaded by the archaeological case that the megalithic foundations of the Temple of Jupiter in Baalbek, Lebanon, were the work of the Romans. There's no doubt that the Romans could move very large blocks of stone, and there's no doubt that they were responsible for the classical majesty of the temple itself, but I'm presently working on the assumption that they built it on top of a megalithic platform that had already been in place for thousands of years. The western side of that original (and I believe remotely ancient) megalithic platform is shown in the collage of photographs with this post. On top of six megaliths, in the range of 400 tons each, are prominently positioned three gigantic megaliths weighing approximately 800 tons each. I am aware that megaliths even larger than this (e.g. the so-called Thunder Stone of St Petersburg) have been moved and positioned on flat ground in historical times) but the moving and positioning of three 800 ton megaliths to a height of 18 or 20 feet above the ground as is the case at Baalbek is a problem of a completely different order. I suggest this requires careful consideration rather than simply saying "the Romans did it" as archaeology is at present inclined to do.

I have many reasons for this view, to do with the possibility of a lost civilisation that I will be exploring in depth in "Magicians of the Gods", the sequel to "Fingerprints of the Gods" (to be published October 2015). However to consider just a single point here we need only turn to the quarry at Baalbek where a number of even larger megaliths (but clearly of the same type as the 800-ton blocks under the Temple of Jupiter), were left in situ by whoever conceived it possible to build with megaliths on this scale. If it was the Romans who quarried and moved everything than we have to ask ourselves why at least two huge blocks in the range of 1,000 to 1,200 tons each (see my previous posts here: http://on.fb.me/WdksjG (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fon.fb.me%2FWdksjG&h=EAQEzM9I1&enc=AZPesQfd-11n-CZA6ZK63Ol6s87tr0yqz4wsDXAXdsCdy6Bh4-XToZP3QodEXISo80kUF-8e9MV4-cDjyYxlT2av0Y_--LkVs6zVYd_jAOe6TVelnSc-kdnO7zoZG3I6LagR5lA0GaTPzH-yW-sCD9sC&s=1) and here:http://on.fb.me/1rmcoaw (http://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fon.fb.me%2F1rmcoaw&h=cAQER8Xra&enc=AZOaqU4P-jt5JSV0sTTQ_DRf636Dpkeicbol-SPrYABWOXJpSTc0_2Vqwxul_jy_PKBTqreb765LimRBLZUQBSP dGCfcsLczpArbUtOBz7spCcRnhadrv3pFxg5cGmBcBJ3W2zmWA S5ykfjuvdFzYGUI&s=1) ) were left in the quarry at all.

The conventional answer is that the Romans, having quarried these exceptionally large blocks, found that they could not move them and simply abandoned them. But that explanation makes very little sense. If the argument that the Romans were responsible for the megalithic platform is correct then we know that they went on to build an extensive temple complex dedicated to Jupiter using smaller blocks of stone. Surely their first source for the multiple smaller blocks they needed would have been the huge megaliths that, according to the argument of mainstream archaeology, they had discovered they could not move from the quarry? The Romans were practical people who would not allow work that they had already so painstakingly done to go to waste. Rather than opening up fresh quarry faces, wouldn't they have used those massive, already almost completely quarried 1,000-ton-plus blocks and simply sliced them up into smaller more moveable megaliths for the construction of the rest of the temple?

It's really puzzling that they didn't do so and therefore the fact that these gigantic, almost finished blocks remain in the quarry and were never sliced up into smaller blocks and used in the general construction of the Temple of Jupiter, suggests to me very strongly that the Romans did not even know they were there. Most probably they had been buried under many metres of sediment for many thousands of years when the Romans appeared on the scene. They made use of the megaliths that were already in place on the already remotely ancient sacred site that would become the Temple of Jupiter -- a handy, massive and convenient platform upon which they could build their temple -- but they knew nothing of the fully cut and shaped but unused megaliths lying deeply buried in the quarry. This is a working hypothesis at the moment, nothing more. I am interested in all critiques and suggestions, whether critical or supportive, that members of facebook community have to offer.

The sheer scale of the megalith leads lots of people to conclude it could only have been aliens with advanced technology to have been responsible.

I have considerable reservations about that conclusion. Perhaps ancient civilisations understood how to harness natural energy to achieve these ends?

Otherwise how the heck did these things get cut and moved?