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David Guyatt
05-15-2009, 10:48 AM
Rats blame-storming to save their skins...

http://bigheaddc.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/nancy-pelosi-facelift.JPG
Shit can't hide. Pelosi was ugly before, during and after the facelift.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8050930.stm


Pelosi says CIA lied on 'torture'

By James Coomarasamy
BBC News, Washington

The speaker of the US House of Representatives says she was misled by the CIA about the use of harsh methods during terror interrogations.

Nancy Pelosi has been under pressure to clarify what she knew since one of her aides said she had been briefed in 2003 that the CIA had waterboarded suspects.

Critics say the methods amount to torture and that officials who authorised them should be prosecuted.

Ms Pelosi has herself condemned the use of harsh interrogation techniques.

Questions remain

Nancy Pelosi has been feeling the political heat over the question of what she knew and when regarding the CIA's interrogation techniques.

At a somewhat chaotic news conference, the speaker - who used to be the leading Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee - turned her fire on the CIA itself.

Previously she said she had been briefed in 2002 that waterboarding and other controversial methods had been approved but not that they had been used.

Now she says the agency misled her by explicitly informing her that those methods had not been employed.

The question of Ms Pelosi's knowledge has taken on greater political significance since the White House published justice department memos written in 2002 and 2005 that provided the legal framework for the interrogations of terrorist suspects.

The decision to publish them has been criticised by some conservatives, while critics of the methods have used them to call for the prosecution of former Bush administration officials.

That is something the Obama Administration initially opposed, but then said was a matter for the courts.

Ms Pelosi reiterated her call for a truth commission at the news conference and called the criticism she has been facing a "diversionary tactic".

But questions remain about why she did not raise objections to the interrogation methods at the time.

If her goal today was to clarify the situation, she failed.

Peter Presland
05-15-2009, 02:07 PM
The US really has lost it - totally. There are many who clearly see the whole abuse of prisoners thing for what it is: Sadistic, violent, inhuman behaviour that is utterly beyond the pale - FULL STOP. The problem is that the facts are so unacceptable to the self-image of Jane and and Jo sixpack and their 'Real' America, that it can no more be squarely faced than can the implications of 911 truth.

The result?

Outrage - absolute OUTRAGE. But outrage at what? Not at the relentless systematic torture and abuse of prisoners, but the prospect of further evidence of it being released in the form of official photos and videos. A sort of 'kill-the-messenger' syndrome with a twist. And what does shiny new President 'Change you can believe in' Obama do? why cave in to the outrage naturally.

Which is further confirmation of the horrific, obscene depravity of it.

This in reply to a question about them at an ACLU convention from Seymour Hersh: (http://www.mikemalloy.com/2009/05/13/sadistic-violent-inhuman/)


http://www.mikemalloy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/redacted-300x169.jpg (http://www.mikemalloy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/redacted.jpg)

ďSome of the worse that happened that you donít know about, ok? Videos, there are women there. Some of you may have read they were passing letters, communications out to their men Ö . The women were passing messages saying ĎPlease come and kill me, because of whatís happened. Basically what happened is that those women who were arrested with young boys/children in cases that have been recorded. The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling. The worst about all of them is the soundtrack of the boys shrieking that your government has

Peter Presland
05-15-2009, 02:27 PM
Meanwhile that reptile Cheyney is touring the studios explaining how torture 'saved American Lives'
(http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2009/05/the_truth_about/)
Which bad as it is, is not the half of it. It seems that it's first persistent use was aimed entirely at establishing a link between Saddam Hussain and Al Qaida to justify the invasion of Iraq. And that is EXACTLY what it did - falsely - with the 'confession' of
Ibn al-Shaykh al-Libi who finally died in his Libyan prison last week. A confession used by Colin Powell in his infamous pre-invasion address to the UN

as Paul Krugman says in today's New York Times:
(http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04/22/grand-unified-scandal/)


Letís say this slowly: the Bush administration wanted to use 9/11 as a pretext to invade Iraq, even though Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. So it tortured people to make them confess to the non-existent link.
Thereís a word for this: itís evil.

David Guyatt
05-15-2009, 04:44 PM
Evil, depraved, deceitful and completely reeking, foul slime.

And Obama can go fuck himself too, for becoming an outrageous apologist for these terrible bastards. He had the opportunity to lance the boil and have a Truth & Reconciliation Administration, but chose, instead, to betray everyone who voted for him and join the gangrenous gang.