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R.K. Locke
06-13-2015, 10:25 PM
This looks interesting (featuring Cyril Wecht, no less):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcu3qb6J_5c


Another recent video by Tom Grant:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8NTb2Prd28

R.K. Locke
06-14-2015, 08:21 PM
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/11/soaked-in-bleach-new-film-revisits-details-in-the-death-of-kurt-cobain-that-point-to-murder/

Lauren Johnson
06-14-2015, 08:46 PM
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/11/soaked-in-bleach-new-film-revisits-details-in-the-death-of-kurt-cobain-that-point-to-murder/

RKL, do you see any deep politics involved in CC's death? So far, I just see an unknown motive on the part of the SPD to make it a suicide? Or am I missing something?

Anthony Thorne
06-15-2015, 01:21 AM
I highly recommend people read the book recently mentioned on the Book page here at DPF - DRUGS AS WEAPONS AGAINST US, by John Potash. The Kindle version is relatively inexpensive and can be read on your home computer or phone with Amazon's 'Kindle for PC' or 'Kindle for Mac' software. The book has a lengthy section on Cobain's death and suggests a number of reasons for his possible murder. I won't try to paraphrase them here. The book also offers a disturbing amount of data regarding the deep political connections of Courtney Love, who comes across as the David Ferrie of the alternative rock scene, linked and backgrounded to one disturbing event after another.

http://www.amazon.com/Drugs-Weapons-Against-Murderous-Targeting-ebook/dp/B00XTAT3W4/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&sr=&qid=

R.K. Locke
06-15-2015, 06:09 PM
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/06/11/soaked-in-bleach-new-film-revisits-details-in-the-death-of-kurt-cobain-that-point-to-murder/

RKL, do you see any deep politics involved in CC's death? So far, I just see an unknown motive on the part of the SPD to make it a suicide? Or am I missing something?


See Anthony's post above. I'm not sure what the deeper motivations were for killing him but there are certainly a lot of very interesting and deep connections apparent when you start to study the principle actors. So to speak.

Here is a couple of curiosities, by way of example:

http://gawker.com/here-is-pedophile-billionaire-jeffrey-epsteins-little-b-1681383992

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-420510/The-Duke-came-house-looking-party.html

Dawn Meredith
06-15-2015, 06:44 PM
After seeing the above yesterday I did some further research on this. I had always heard rumblings that she had him killed now there is zero doubt in my mind. And of course got away with it as well as got rich and semi famous as a result. No deep politics. Just greed. He was gonna divorce her and had asked that she be taken out of his will.

Anthony Thorne
06-16-2015, 12:49 AM
No deep politics. Just greed. He was gonna divorce her and had asked that she be taken out of his will.

Dawn, when you get a chance, read Potash's book, and particularly the Cobain section. The chapter is more about Love than Cobain, and while I don't doubt her desire for Cobain's riches, I was surprised to see that she has deep politics connections aplenty. My comparison to Ferrie is not a random one.

Albert Doyle
06-16-2015, 03:48 AM
COINTELPRO often manufactured a plausibly-deniable reason or patsy like Love in order to cover up the motive for their killings.

Dawn Meredith
06-16-2015, 12:52 PM
No deep politics. Just greed. He was gonna divorce her and had asked that she be taken out of his will.

Dawn, when you get a chance, read Potash's book, and particularly the Cobain section. The chapter is more about Love than Cobain, and while I don't doubt her desire for Cobain's riches, I was surprised to see that she has deep politics connections aplenty. My comparison to Ferrie is not a random one.

So does this book say she had deep political help? It's too new to have but one review.

Without the benefit of having read it, I would say she had him killed and her deep political connections is why she has gotten away with it.

Anthony Thorne
06-17-2015, 03:14 AM
Potash's book argues in some detail that Love was not the only beneficiary of Cobain's death, and that Love has numerous connections to CIA/MK-Ultra/drug experimentation scientists (going back years) who would have been pleased to see (a.) Cobain hooked on heroin, (b.) Cobain die before he could publicly withdraw from the drug and reduce its popularity among his fans, and (c.) Cobain and other alt rockers from the period (many who were victimized or died after encountering Love) be silenced as supporters of left-wing political activism.

The book also charts a history of CIA/MK-Ultra experimentation going hand-in-hand with the popularization of LSD, and COINTELPRO tactics repeatedly targeting the left. There are detailed chapters on the deaths of Brian Jones, John Lennon, Tupac Shakur and others. (The Shakur section covers multiple chapters and gets into the FBI war against the Black Panther movement in great detail).

The Love/Cobain chapter does suggest that she had help, both before and after the event. It also suggests that Love was a 'person of interest' prior to meeting Cobain, and that a careful study of her youth (military bases, psych assessments and treatments as an infant, names connecting her to MK-Ultra, a habit of her showing up in later years in milieus of interest to the CIA/right-wing drug research groups) suggests there is a great deal more to her than meets the eye. Some suspicious deaths also occurred after the death of Cobain, including one investigator.

The book's overall argument is a detailed and disquieting one, and it is as heavily footnoted as your average Peter Dale Scott volume. Hopefully more people on the forum will read it when time permits.

R.K. Locke
06-17-2015, 09:38 AM
Some of the details are covered in this interview which has been posted elsewhere on the site:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alA2Ttrp9Cs


The material relevant to this thread starts around 57 minutes.

Dawn Meredith
06-20-2015, 04:09 PM
I read recently that she had letters sent out attempting to stop the release of the film. I also read that their child has negative feelings for Kurt. So sad, what would the girl think if she knew Love had her dad murdered. Will get the book, but it's on a long waiting list.

Dawn

Dawn Meredith
06-21-2015, 03:08 PM
Some of the details are covered in this interview which has been posted elsewhere on the site:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alA2Ttrp9Cs


The material relevant to this thread starts around 57 minutes.

I listened to a lot of this yesterday and it just made me so sad. I did not know the stuff about Hendrix Brian Jones and John Lennon. What a super band it would have been. I also knew little about the death of Jimi, but am learning. Having grown up and coming of age during the 60s, being a part of the "all you need is love" era, and loving those times where we felt that the world WAS getting better, it is disheartening to see that it was all an MK ULTRA plan to get us to drop acid. Marty Lee's book years ago was an eye opener, coupled with all the Laurel Canyon strangeness. "Nothing is real". (JL).
But my memories remain pure.

Dawn

R.K. Locke
06-27-2015, 07:12 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/11698802/Police-chief-calls-for-investigation-into-Kurt-Cobains-death-to-be-reopened.html


Police chief calls for investigation into Kurt Cobain's death to be reopened

Many fans have long believed the Nirvana frontman was murdered


Raf Sanchez
By Raf Sanchez, Washington

3:07PM BST 25 Jun 2015



The death of Nirvana frontman Kurt Cobain should be reinvestigated to settle whether it was suicide or murder, according to the former chief of Seattle police.


"I would tell you right now if I were the Chief of Police, I would reopen this investigation,” said Norm Stamper, who took over the police department months before Cobain's death.


The 27-year-old rockstar was found dead from a gunshot wound in April 1994 at his home in Seattle and Mr Stamper's officers were called to the scene.


• Kurt Cobain was not a 'tortured genius', he had an illness


Although a suicide note was found by his body many fans have long believed Cobain was murdered.


Mr Stamper, who left police work in 2000 to become a writer and blogger, spoke to the makers of Soaked in Bleach, a new documentary which focuses on a theory put forward by some fans that Cobain's widow Courtney Love played a role in his death. Ms Love, who has always strenously denied such allegations, has already sent warning letters to cinemas considering showing the documentary.

Courtney Love, Cobain's widow

Mr Stamper does not point the finger at anyone directly but said his investigators should not have discounted the possibility Cobain was murdered.

“We should in fact have taken steps to study patterns involved in the behaviour of key individuals who had a motive to see Kurt Cobain dead,” he said, according to excerpts in Spin Magazine.

“If in fact Kurt Cobain was murdered, as opposed to having committed suicide, and it was possible to learn that, shame on us for not doing that. That was in fact our responsibility,” he said.

“It’s about right and wrong. It’s about honour. It’s about ethics,” he added. “If we didn’t get it right the first time, we damn well better get it right the second time, and I would tell you right now if I were the Chief of Police, I would reopen this investigation.”

• Courtney Love attacked by anti-Uber protesters in Paris

Mr Stamper said it was "entirely possible" that his officers might have missed evidence that would point towards murder.

Ms Love's lawyers said the idea she was behind her husband's death was "a widely and repeatedly debunked conspiracy theory" and demanded that the cinemas not show the film.

Soaked in Bleach is the first documentary from Benjamin Slater and has received mixed reviews from critics.

"Despite a low-rent aesthetic that... doesn't sufficiently distance it from the tinfoil-hat world, Soaked presents evidence one has a hard time dismissing," wrote the Hollywood Reporter.

Albert Doyle
06-27-2015, 08:09 PM
Telegraph has no comments section.

Ashley Wood
07-08-2015, 10:12 AM
If anyone here or indeed if anyone on a quality Hendrix,Stones or Beatles site can show me the slightest shred of evidence for the claim that Jones, Jimi and John were considering forming a band i would be extremely grateful and even more surprised.

Anthony Thorne
07-08-2015, 10:58 AM
If anyone here or indeed if anyone on a quality Hendrix,Stones or Beatles site can show me the slightest shred of evidence for the claim that Jones, Jimi and John were considering forming a band i would be extremely grateful and even more surprised.

The claim is made on page 296 of A.E Hotchner's 1990 book BLOWN AWAY-THE ROLLING STONES AND THE DEATH OF THE SIXTIES. The book has also appeared under a slightly different title. Jones "was enthusiastic about his band plans. He had talked to Jimi Hendrix and John Lennon, and both were seriously considering joining up with him to form a new band." Hotchner was the former longtime editor of Ernest Heningway and interviewed a number of people who knew Jones for his book. The veracity of Hotchner's research and his claims is anyone's guess.

Dawn Meredith
07-11-2015, 05:18 PM
Anyone seen this yet?

Dawn

R.K. Locke
07-12-2015, 04:31 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXR5_d-a6uU

R.K. Locke
07-12-2015, 04:37 PM
It is notable that Hole bassist Kristen Pfaff also died from "acute opiate intoxication" just a couple of months after Kurt Cobain:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kristen_Pfaff


From the article above:

Her father, Norman Pfaff, described her as "bright, personable, wonderful...very, very talented, smart, and she always seemed to be in control of her circumstances. Last night she wasn't."[9] In the book Love & Death, released April 2004, Kristen Pfaff's mother, Janet Pfaff, states she has never accepted the official story regarding her daughter's death.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mT6rLgwUz8

Dawn Meredith
07-13-2015, 08:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXR5_d-a6uU

Wow, this is mess. Voices not linked up with faces. Scrolling dialogue way after it was spoken. Very amateurish. God to see Cyril Wecht in it so much but you mostly did not see him when he was speaking, so unless you know his voice- like we here- you don't know who is speaking.

R.K. Locke
07-13-2015, 08:53 PM
Dawn, it has been uploaded that way to get around YouTube's algorithms. If it had been uploaded in pristine form it would have been taken straight back down again. I just listened to it rather than watching it, personally. It would have been too frustrating otherwise.

Dawn Meredith
07-15-2015, 01:16 PM
Dawn, it has been uploaded that way to get around YouTube's algorithms. If it had been uploaded in pristine form it would have been taken straight back down again. I just listened to it rather than watching it, personally. It would have been too frustrating otherwise.

Thanks. That makes sense. I was also expecting more evidence. More on the note, their attorney and her thoughts. A bit of a let down in terms of proof that she killed him. (Which I do believe).

R.K. Locke
07-15-2015, 05:08 PM
Dawn, it has been uploaded that way to get around YouTube's algorithms. If it had been uploaded in pristine form it would have been taken straight back down again. I just listened to it rather than watching it, personally. It would have been too frustrating otherwise.

Thanks. That makes sense. I was also expecting more evidence. More on the note, their attorney and her thoughts. A bit of a let down in terms of proof that she killed him. (Which I do believe).


I agree. I was expecting more too.

That being said, what was presented was enough to convince me that this was unlikely to have been a suicide

Albert Doyle
07-15-2015, 05:11 PM
The audio is about 1:22 ahead of the video.


If you hit the You-Tube link at the top of the video and put the mute on one of the two open video windows you can allow one to run 1:22 ahead of the other and watch the one with the video while the one with the audio plays unseen in the hidden window.



This documentary is pretty good. It raises serious questions about Cobain's death and edits in Dr Wecht with just the right timing to hammer home the problems with the original investigation. However, it misses one important thing. Intel was known to use the problems between targeted individuals to incur a plausible pretext for assassination. If you look closely at the level of intrigue involved it looks like it could be beyond Courtney Love's means. This could be a COINTELPRO job with Courtney as the patsy.


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R.K. Locke
07-16-2015, 05:11 PM
The audio is about 1:22 ahead of the video.


If you hit the You-Tube link at the top of the video and put the mute on one of the two open video windows you can allow one to run 1:22 ahead of the other and watch the one with the video while the one with the audio plays unseen in the hidden window.



This documentary is pretty good. It raises serious questions about Cobain's death and edits in Dr Wecht with just the right timing to hammer home the problems with the original investigation. However, it misses one important thing. Intel was known to use the problems between targeted individuals to incur a plausible pretext for assassination. If you look closely at the level of intrigue involved it looks like it could be beyond Courtney Love's means. This could be a COINTELPRO job with Courtney as the patsy.


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I broadly agree with this. I'm not convinced that she bears overall responsibility because I don't believe she has the clout to control the outcome of a police investigation. She therefore has to have been more of a Facilitator than a Sponsor.

Albert Doyle
07-16-2015, 07:07 PM
Not only that but if it was Courtney alone wouldn't the government love to destroy the Seattle rock scene by exposing a sick betrayal and murder for profit amongst rock's new gentry?


Having one of rock's most popular heroes kill himself amidst a personal drug problem would maximize CHAOS and COINTELPRO's main objectives.

Albert Doyle
08-02-2015, 03:22 PM
I don't know if this guy is a nut or not, but Isabel Schwab uses all the CIA memo dirty tricks to libel his cause:




http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/02/the-man-who-won-t-let-kurt-cobain-die.html

Dawn Meredith
08-02-2015, 05:41 PM
I don't know if this guy is a nut or not, but Isabel Schwab uses all the CIA memo dirty tricks to libel his cause:




http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/08/02/the-man-who-won-t-let-kurt-cobain-die.html



OMG. This guy is not just a nut but a total ass. In 2003, the 40th anniversary of the JFK assassination, we had a gathering for two days here at my home. Barr McCllellan and his wife, Nathan Darby, and Dallas researcher and long time friend Rachel Rendish. Rachel had met this guy in Dallas and asked me if she could bring him here. I agreed, much to my later sorrow. The guy was creepy beyond belief and kept going into my husband's office where Barr was doing phone interviews, that Monday. I had several questions for Barr as well but this creep would not leave Erick's office. After the second day of this harassment, I finally demanded that he leave my home because he was pissing me off so much, he literally took over our gathering, or tried to. I had forgotten all about this until seeing this article and his name and face. He was obsessed with Cobain then too and I have no idea whey he was even in Dallas or how he came to meet Rachel but do remember he had a video camera and passed himself off to her as well as a serious "journalist".

The more things change....

Albert Doyle
08-02-2015, 06:03 PM
Even if true Isabel uses him to smear all researchers and the facts behind Cobain's death.



Nut or not his suit has merit and its dismissal was pure bullshit.



If you read the article Isabel Schwab refers to the police investigating themselves and finding themselves not guilty as proof of Richard Lee's nuttiness.



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Dawn Meredith
08-03-2015, 04:23 PM
Even if true Isabel uses him to smear all researchers and the facts behind Cobain's death.



Nut or not his suit has merit and its dismissal was pure bullshit.



If you read the article Isabel Schwab refers to the police investigating themselves and finding themselves not guilty as proof of Richard Lee's nuttiness.



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Oh I agree, this case has murder all over it. I was just commenting on our experience with Richard Lee, which I had pushed out of my mind til seeing this.

Albert Doyle
08-03-2015, 04:40 PM
This CBS article also went after Richard Lee and his weirdness and used it to avoid mentioning that Cyril Wecht also found serious problems with the evidence as well as the ex-Seattle police chief who said he would re-open the case.


Instead CBS focuses on Lee like the mainstream media did with Gary Webb. CBS actually tries to make Lee look like a nut with a video camera chasing people. Imagine somebody doing interviews with a video camera? (Like CBS does for a living but didn't do in this case. Instead they used their weight to defame a guerrilla journalist. It's clear the reason CBS is doing this is so they can dismiss all persons who question Cobain's death.) The only reason there are Richard Lee's out there is because they are filling the void created by CBS's non-journalism.




http://www.cbsnews.com/news/lawsuit-to-release-graphic-kurt-cobain-death-photos-thrown-out/

Kara Dellacioppa
08-13-2015, 10:55 PM
Wow, I just saw this thread (havent been on in a while). If you really look at Courtney loVes background, her dad had some weird relationship with the Grateful Dead and might have been some kind of asset himself, plus Courtney ended up spending part of her childhood in a cult with some strange relationshiop (IE rape) by a friend of the family that was a psychiatrist.. truly fucked up.. plus she was handing out loads of acid and i think X in the british music scene in the early 90s... She was Billy corgans lover at the same time as Kurt. kurt was going to make it big faster than corgan.... the rest is history...
OH YEAH1 she flew around in those private planes with Jeffrey Epstein!

Here is a good interview with John Potash..
http://www.spreaker.com/user/oppermanreport/john-potash-drugs-as-weapons-against-us

Lauren Johnson
08-13-2015, 11:32 PM
she flew around in those private planes with Jeffrey Epstein!

Oh dear. That didn't end well.

Kara Dellacioppa
08-13-2015, 11:56 PM
she flew around in those private planes with Jeffrey Epstein!

Oh dear. That didn't end well.

Seriously, right?..... Apparently she spent time with Japanase mafia type... you feel sorry for her on one level because clearly something happened to this woman when she was little..

Albert Doyle
08-18-2015, 04:44 PM
See how this works? Just like Arafat when the ugly truth comes out both the authorities and public flop back to just letting it slide to eternity while doing nothing.



These are political murders where the government has targeted rock n roll as a subversive entity. No justice will ever be pursued for these victims.

Lauren Johnson
08-18-2015, 05:19 PM
"It never happened."

R.K. Locke
09-10-2015, 07:03 PM
http://21stcenturywire.com/2015/09/09/the-myth-of-march-18th-kurt-cobains-suicidal-spiral-debunked-by-new-testimony/


The Myth of March 18th: Kurt Cobain’s ‘Suicidal Spiral’ Debunked by New Testimony

September 9, 2015 By Shawn Helton 21 Comments

Shawn Helton
21st Century Wire

Over two decades have passed since the loss of the Nirvana front man Kurt Cobain and yet, key circumstances leading up to his untimely death still continue to be uncovered.

In order to provide context for this most recent revelation in the Cobain case, let’s revisit a 911 police call to the singer’s Lake Washington property in the early evening of March 18th, 1994.


‘Dark Day’ – The body of Kurt Cobain was discovered on April 8th, 1994, in the green house seen above. (Photo seattlepi)

On April 9th, the day after Cobain’s body was discovered in the greenhouse above his garage, both the Seattle Post-Intelligencer newspaper and Associated Press published articles stating that police had been previously summoned on March 18th to the Cobain residence by his wife Courtney Love, allegedly because Cobain had “locked himself in a room with several weapons and was suicidal.”

The March 18th incident was heavily publicized and widely echoed across media outlets throughout the world, with many adding that, “Cobain was coaxed from the room and said he didn’t want to hurt himself.” This aspect of the story was central in validating the idea that the rock icon was already on a ‘downward spiral’ making the public acceptance of his suicide a fait accompli.

Astonishingly, as you’ll learn below, there’s another set of previously unreported details – revealed by the primary officer and first responder to the infamous March 18th 911 call…


Uncovering the Truth


Recently, investigative journalist Matthew Richer unearthed a more complete version of March 18th disturbance call when he contacted Seattle Police Department Detective Everett Edwards for an interview.

A veteran of the force 21 years, Detective Edwards is recognized throughout the Seattle community. His current position is the detective in charge of the Seattle Police Department’s Property Recovery Unit.

He was the first patrol officer on the scene at Lake Washington that fateful evening on March 18th, 1994.

‘Protect & Serve’ – SPD Detective Everett Edwards seen above with Snohomish County Sheriff Becky Lewis. (Photo heraldnet)

In an article first published at Cobaincase.com entitled, “Kurt Cobain Did Not Attempt Suicide on March 18, 1994″, Richer pieces together the chronology of the disturbance call, as seen through the eyes of Edwards.

Much to the surprise of Richer, there was no record of the Seattle Homicide Unit ever investigating the March 18th incident in the aftermath of Cobain’s death. And even more amazingly, not a single reporter had ever contacted Edwards about his March 18th police visit to Cobain’s Lake Washington residence.

Below are passages from Richer’s exclusive findings during his interview with the detective.

What Really Happened on March 18th?

Edwards arrived on the scene at the rock couple’s house to discover Love screaming outside on the front porch:

“He locked himself in a room! He’s gotta gun! He’s gonna f***ing kill himself!” Edwards then informed Love that he would have to wait for backup to arrive before he could enter the house. “Well, if you’re not gonna do anything, then just get the f*** out of here!” Love shouted.”

In another, even more revealing segment of the correspondence, Richer uncovered the sequence of events during the March 18th incident, as relayed by Edwards:

“We were always led to believe that the police encountered an armed Kurt Cobain locked inside a room in his house that night.”

“According to Detective Everett Edwards, the reality is that Kurt Cobain was not inside the house at all when the police arrived that day.”

“Instead, when Edwards and his partner attempted to enter the house through the backdoor, they discovered an unarmed Kurt Cobain sheepishly standing in the backyard with his hands in his pockets.”

“Moreover, Cobain did not appear suicidal; rather, he seemed deeply embarrassed by the situation. “He just really wanted to get out of there,” said Edwards (who had then, incidentally, never heard of Kurt Cobain).”

Additionally, Edwards disclosed that Cobain ‘calmly’ walked with the officer to sit in the backseat of his squad car to discuss the circumstances of the disturbance call. Recounting the events of that evening, Edwards recollected, “He [Cobain] was just a very, very nice guy,” and did not appear to be under the influence of any drugs.

Also, according to Richer’s interview with Edwards, Cobain acknowledged to authorities that he had “simply locked himself in a room after an argument, ” and had no intention of harming himself.

Although much was made of the March 18th police visit after Cobain’s death, the matter had been handled according to police protocol in domestic situations, as officers confiscated Cobain’s firearms and medication at the house that evening.

Here is an excerpt from the original police report, providing further confirmation that Cobain’s actions were misrepresented during the March 18th incident:

“After further interviewing Ms. Love, she stated that she did not see him with a gun, and he did not say he was going to kill himself.”


Painting a Picture

There were many misleading media accounts in the wake of Cobain’s tragic death, and the March 18th ‘disturbance call’ looks to have been a significant factor in painting a specific point of view prior to singer’s unexpected end.

The details regarding the so-called March 18th incident would greatly influence public perception about Cobain’s apparent mental state, as it marked the first of two official reports that Love would make to the Seattle Police Department in under a month – falsely claiming Cobain was ‘suicidal’ with a gun.

Perhaps the most eye-opening aspect of the two police reports, was that Love had filed a missing person’s report using her mother-in-law’s name, Wendy O’Connor, on April 4th. This falsely filed report claimed that Cobain had recently ‘fled’ from drug rehab in Marina Del Ray on April 1st, flew back to Seattle, quickly purchased a shotgun, and “may be suicidal.”

It’s been long-established that Cobain legally obtained the shotgun for personal protection before going to the non-lockdown rehab facility.

Love would later admit she filed the report impersonating Cobain’s mother Wendy O’ Connor, which has led some critics of the case to believe that her assertions about her husband’s state of mind may not be accurate, and could also be a convenient red herring for the authorities and media alike.

Although some are familiar with the alarming forensic side of the Cobain case, it’s important to reiterate that the singer was found with three times the lethal dose of heroin in his bloodstream along with diazepam, prior to the shotgun being used near the time of his death. This has prompted many to believe the immediate impact of the heroin would have left him incapacitated and unable to perform the task of using the shotgun.


In the aftermath of Cobain’s death, the March 18th incident had become mythologized by many throughout entertainment media. One such case as mentioned by Richer, was a SPIN Magazine interview with Love that was published in February of 1995. According to that article, the well-known widow recounted an entirely different chain of events on the evening of March 18th, during her featured exchange with Craig Marks:

“See those marks on the door. On the wall. That’s from when he [Kurt Cobain] was in here with guns, and I kicked it in. Or tried to.”

“It was too secure.” “He finally just unlocked it. And there were the guns, out. And I grabbed one. This was March 18.”

“I [Courtney Love] grabbed the revolver, and I put it to my head, and I said, ‘I’m going to pull this right now.”

“I cannot see you die. I cannot see you die again.’ He [Kurt Cobain] grabbed my hand. He was screaming.” “There’s no safety. You don’t understand, there’s no safety on that. It’s going to go off.’ So he got it from me.”

And I [Courtney Love] was seriously going to blow my head off right in front of him, because I could not deal with it.”

It’s worth noting Richer’s thoughts regarding Love’s SPIN Magazine revision of the March 18th incident. He explains:

“This story, of course, completely contradicts the account given to us by Detective Everett Edwards, a decorated police officer with an exemplary record. In fact, Courtney Love never told this dramatic version of the March 18th incident to anyone prior to its appearance in SPIN.”

More Mythology in Rome?

In another article, published by Rolling Stone Magazine in June of 1994 by the well-known author Neil Strauss, there also appears to be some glaring misconceptions with regard to not only the evening of March 18th – but of Cobain’s accidental overdose in Rome following Nirvana’s cancelled world tour two weeks earlier.

The article characterized that Cobain’s overdose in Rome, was a “failed suicide attempt, however, this media analysis differed quite a bit from Dr. Osvaldo Galleta, the attending doctor who treated Cobain:

“We can usually tell a suicide attempt, “He did not seem like a young man who wanted to end it all.”

Adding that Cobain, “will fully recover with no lingering problems.”

The Rome incident, has often been cited as additional evidence of Cobain’s alleged ‘mental state’ and in many ways, it has also been grafted onto the events of March 18th and his eventual death, but without any serious qualification. This becomes even more clear, when you consider the Strauss’ Rolling Stone article had asserted that the “domestic dispute escalated into a near disaster,” on the evening of March 18th.

More recently, with the release of the HBO co-produced documentary Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck (MOH) this past May, viewers had been given a glimpse into the private life of Cobain via archival footage and other previously unreleased material.

Although the ‘authorized’ documentary-drama had been billed by its creators as a celebration of Cobain’s life, the film was laced with what seemed to be heavy speculative commentary and well-edited emotionally charged interviews – all focusing on Cobain’s perceived ‘suicidal’ tendencies – without ever challenging, much less mentioning, the forensic details of the singer’s death.


Big Questions Remain

This past June, another Cobain-based docudrama Soaked In Bleach, thrust the Nirvana star’s life and death back into the spotlight once again. The new film presents compelling analysis from a host of forensic experts, including the notable pathologist, Dr. Cyril Wecht (former president of the American Academy of Forensic Science).

Wecht along with others throughout the motion picture, question the official ruling in the Cobain case due to several forensic anomalies. In addition, the former Chief of Police for the Seattle Police Department, Norm Stamper, shared his thoughts during the controversial feature:

“I would tell you right now that if I were the Chief today, I would re-open this investigation.”


Many have questioned the official suicide ruling in the Cobain case and the emergence of these new details regarding the March 18th disturbance call will continue to cast doubt over what really happened to the fallen icon.

Until these questions are answered, curiosity in the case will only increase, and serious doubt upon the official ruling is certain to grow.

R.K. Locke
12-23-2015, 11:07 AM
Word is spreading:


https://youtu.be/i-CuQnbM3MM?t=56m10s

Dawn Meredith
12-23-2015, 09:19 PM
Soaked in Bleach is on Netflix. I saw it a few weeks ago. Very damning. She had him murdered.

Lauren Johnson
12-23-2015, 09:27 PM
Soaked in Bleach is on Netflix. I saw it a few weeks ago. Very damning. She had him murdered.

To me, the big story is why she was protected by the Seattle PD.