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David Guyatt
11-30-2015, 09:50 PM
A new five part drama on BBC, and excellent too. It is almost certainly modelled on the life and death of Gareth Williams, the GCHQ/SIS code and cipher expert found dead in a padlocked sports bag in a bath in an MI6 flat in Pimlico. I wonder if it is the true story or just a thoughtful and imaginative spin of it.

Magda Hassan
11-30-2015, 10:26 PM
Very interesting. I look forward to it coming here. Some times the truth can only be told as fiction. I wonder where this lot are coming from?

Peter Lemkin
12-01-2015, 03:20 AM
Funny, I was just about to post about Gareth Williams and that the story died much as he did....in a false and disguised manner. It always amazes me how the most important things have their moment in the press [usually falsely portrayed and distorted] and then just fake away to be forgotten so that the next deep event can be foisted on the public.

Thanks for the heads up on this....I'll be interested to see which way they took the story and portrayed it. At least it might revive interest in the case.

David Guyatt
12-01-2015, 08:17 AM
It's interesting that the writer of the show, Tom Rob Smith says it is NOT modelled on Gareth Williams. But it very obviously is and I don't believe him. I suspect he is just avoiding any legal problems or harm to the family in saying this.

Well worth watching. ALLUC have it, I believe, but also BBC Catch up.

Peter Lemkin
12-01-2015, 09:21 AM
It's interesting that the writer of the show, Tom Rob Smith says it is NOT modelled on Gareth Williams. But it very obviously is and I don't believe him. I suspect he is just avoiding any legal problems or harm to the family in saying this.

Well worth watching. ALLUC have it, I believe, but also BBC Catch up.

I just watched parts 1-4. But the way it ends, I'm not quite sure if more is to follow...do you know?
It is 100000% based on Gareth Williams - no doubts about that...but the speculation is, very minor speculation - and the rest is highly informed speculation. I enjoyed it, and it also reminded me [again] how dangerous the truth or 'dangerous knowledge' can be, and how ruthless the powers that be always have been....and remain.

It is very well done!....

David Guyatt
12-01-2015, 05:06 PM
It's interesting that the writer of the show, Tom Rob Smith says it is NOT modelled on Gareth Williams. But it very obviously is and I don't believe him. I suspect he is just avoiding any legal problems or harm to the family in saying this.

Well worth watching. ALLUC have it, I believe, but also BBC Catch up.

I just watched parts 1-4. But the way it ends, I'm not quite sure if more is to follow...do you know?
It is 100000% based on Gareth Williams - no doubts about that...but the speculation is, in part, speculation - but not all is by far - and the rest is mostly informed speculation. I enjoyed it, and it also reminded me [again] how dangerous the truth or 'dangerous knowledge' can be, and how ruthless the powers that be always have been....and remain.

It very well done!....

Yes Pete, it's a 5 part series. One more to go.

Matthew Hewitt
12-02-2015, 12:45 PM
It's interesting that the writer of the show, Tom Rob Smith says it is NOT modelled on Gareth Williams. But it very obviously is and I don't believe him. I suspect he is just avoiding any legal problems or harm to the family in saying this.

Funnily enough it was the author who put me off watching this, as I have serious doubts about his personal agenda. Smith's Leo Demidov trilogy (Child 44 etc) is utter drivel, not only do they fail on a basic level as crime/political thrillers but their main function seems to be to perpetuate the same anti-Russian propaganda that appears in so much contemporary popular culture. I'm not in any way naive as to the excesses of the Stalinist-era, but this goes much further; the protagonist's journey (by way of a guided tour around the USSR's worst aspects) from gullible party member and supporter of the revolution, to pragmatist and anti-communist is very calculated. As is the way that the state is shown to have created a monster it is unwilling to confront or even acknowledge.

Given the novels' unprecedented success, I've often wondered if their author was being given some sort of 'push'.