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David Guyatt
01-12-2016, 02:02 PM
There’s a good resource on Masonry available for free:


The author, clearly, has done an awful lot of research. Having said that, he doesn’t have a personal grasp of what he is writing about, namely the occult, so I wouldn’t be inclined to treat his interpretations as being particularly valid. But the general coverage is useful.

For example, in Chapter 3 he quotes from Pike’s Morals and Dogma thus:

"The true name of Satan, the Kabalists say, is that of Yahweh reversed; for Satan is
not a black god.. for the initiates this is not a Person, but a force, created for good,
but which may serve for evil. It is the instrument of liberty and free will."
[ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," Master Mason / 3rd Degree p. 102 ]

Earlier in the same chapter he quotes Manly P Hall:

"When a mason learns the key to the warrior on the block is the proper
application of the dynamo of living power, he has learned the mystery of his
craft. The seething energies of Lucifer are in his hands and before he may
step upward, he must prove his ability to properly apply energy."
[The Lost Key of Freemasonry, Manly P. Hall,33°
, p.48]

And comments on this passage as follows:

The above quote may be surprising to some, but occultists have a clear concept of what
Manly P. Hall was talking about. To them the true definition of occultism is the science
of energy flow and energy relationships. Occult meditation is a means of consciously
and purposefully directing energy from a recognized source to the creation of some
specific effect.

I agree with Many Hall. The whole secret of the occult is unlocking this “dynamo of living power”. And he is also right to say that the Mason (I prefer “traveller” myself) “must prove his ability to properly apply energy”.

Because the application of that energy can be used for good or for evil. It can be used for beneficial reasons or malignant reasons. This is why the secret is a secret and protected by a bodyguard of lies, misdirection and symbol confusion.

Someone improperly ready, ethically speaking, is likely to become so unbalanced by the surge of energy that has become un-leashed that he or she is controlled by IT, rather than being the controller and director. And that can lead to disaster. I imagine, but don’t know for certain, that this is what happened to one Adolf Hitler. But even if this wasn’t the case it is the danger that it could be the case that is the danger. If you see what I mean.

In the above para I used the word unleashed advisedly. A vast source of untapped energy is available to one and all, and if unprepared by years and decades of work and preparation, disaster - or worse - can follow. The analogy is that the surge of energy would be like a raging river after a Monsoon, drowning, battering and rushing away in a surge of pure elemental force. And like water in a surging river will always seek the lowest point, so energy will too. Down the the very bottom where the mud and excrement mixes together in a slurry.


Back to the book in question. Further on in Chapter 3 the author quotes two further extracts”

"Masonry is a search for light. That light. That search leads us back, as you see, to
the Kabala. In that ancient and little understood (source book) the infinite will find
the source of many doctrines; and (he) may in time come to understand the
Hermetic philosophers, the Alchemists, all the Anti-papal Thinkers of the Middle
Ages, and Emanuel Swedenborg."

[ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," 28th Degree p. 741 ]

"All truly dogmatic religions have issued from the Kabala and return to it;
everything scientific and grand in the religious dreams of the Illuminati, Jacob
Boeheme, Swedenborg, Saint Martin, and others is borrowed from the Kabala; all
Masonic associations owe to it their secrets and their symbols."

[ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma," 28th Degree p. 747 ]

"Though Masonry is identical with the ancient Mysteries, it is so only in this
qualified sense: that it presents but an imperfect image of their brilliancy, the ruins
of their grandeur .."

[ Albert Pike "Morals and Dogma Fellowcraft Degree p.22 ]

The key to Freemasonry has always been - and remains - the Qabalah (to use the spelling I’m familiar with rather than Pike’s “Kabala” usage), but as Pike reveals it is also the key to all dogmatic religions and onwards to all western occultism, alchemy etc.

On dogmatic religions, my view is to respect them all. Each to his own according to his/her need or inclination. But I genrally imbibe from none and yet have been interested and studied most, if somewhat briefly.

So far, so good.

Where I entirely and utterly break from Masonry is in the Oath they must take. It is a travesty. And for me it has led the Craft to its own damnation. Deservedly so, too. Assuming they weren’t heading for damnation already...

Here are some extracts from the Oath:

"If your wife child, or friend should ask you anything about your invitation - as for
instance, if your clothes were taken off, if you were blind folded, if you had a rope
tied around you neck, etc, you must conceal.. hence of course you must deliberately
lie about it. It is part of your obligation ..

" [ Pike p. 74 ]

Question: "what makes you a Freemason ? Answer: My obligation."

[question and answer from the Entered Apprentice/First Degree]

".. binding myself under no less penalty that of having throat cut from ear to ear,
my tongue torn out by its roots, and my body buried in the rough sands of the sea, a
cable length from the shore where the tide.."

[ from the oath of obligation Entered Apprentice/First Degree ] "

.. binding myself under no less penalty than having my left Breast torn open, my
heart plucked out, and given to the beasts of the field and fowls of the air as prey."

[from the oath of obligation , Fellowcraft/Second Degree]

".. binding myself under no less penalty that of having my body severed in twain,
my bowels taken out and burned to ashes, the ashes scattered to the four winds of

[ from the oath of obligation, Master Mason / Third Degree ]

" .. in willful violation whereof may I incur the fearful penalty of having my eyeballs
pierced to thru center with a three edged blade, my feet flayed and forced to walk
the hot sands upon the sterile shores of the red sea until the flaming Sun shall strike
with a livid plague, and my Allah the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan, the
god of our fathers, support me to the entire fulfillment of the same."

[ from the oath of obligation, Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine ]

"You must conceal all the crimes of your brother Masons... and should you be
summoned as a witness against a brother Mason be always sure to shield him.. It
may be perjury to do this, it is true, but your keeping your obligations."

[ Ronayne, "Handbook of Masonry" p. 183 ]

Quite inexcusable in my opinion.

And I note the reference to Allah, the god of Arab, Moslem and Mohammedan in the Shriner oath - as well as the fact that the Shriner's are more correctly known as the Ancient Arabic Order of the Nobles of the Mystic Shrine. Hmmm. I believe (?) to be a Shriner one has to have acquired the 32nd degree in Masonry.

But it begs the question why all these terrible oaths? Becoming “conscious” in the Jungian sense of that word, is an individual journey, or to put it another way, a journey of individuation. This is, or should be, the same in the occult tradition too, where the secrecy is to protect the surge of unleashed energy from what used to be called “the profane”.

So there seems to be a conundrum here, secrecy and protection of a fellow brother... for another purpose.

If we continue with Pike’s Morals & Dogma:

"We shall unleash the Nihilists and atheists, and we shall provoke a formidable
social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to the nations the effect of
absolute atheism, origin of savagery and of the most bloody turmoil. Then
everywhere, the citizens, obliged to defend themselves against the world minority of
revolutionaries, will exterminate those destroyers of civilization, and the multitude,
disillusioned with Christianity, whose deistic spirit will from that moment be
without a compass (direction), anxious for an ideal, but without knowing where to
render its adoration, will receive the pure light through the universal manifestation
of the pure doctrine of Lucifer, brought finally out in the public view, a
manifestation which will result from the general reactionary movement which will
follow the destruction of Christianity and atheism, both conquered and
exterminated at the same time."

-Albert Pike, on a plan for world conquest, written in a letter to Mazzini dated August 15,

If Pike was true in what he said to Mazzini, and if Mazzini is true in what he related, then we have a conspiracy.

But then if Mazzini is to be believed, Pike was not the sort of person to swap holiday pictures with:

"..Thirty-third degree Freemason Albert Pike (1809-1891), the man destined to
develop the Luciferian Doctrine for the Masonic hierarchy, could not accept the
Lucifer and Satan were the same personality. While teaching his beliefs to a select
few in the Supreme Council, Pike became the most powerful Mason in the world.
Although an obscure general in the Confederate Army during the American Civil
War, he was hardly inconspicuous in Freemasonry. From 1859 until his death in
1891, Pike occupied simultaneously the positions of Grand Master of the Central
Directory at Washington, D.C., Grand Commander of the Supreme Council at
Charleston, S.C., and Sovereign Pontiff of Universal Freemasonry. He was an honorary member of almost every Supreme Council in the world, personally receiving 130 Masonic degrees.

Pike also was one of the most physically and morally
repulsive individuals in American history. Weighing well over three hundred
pounds, his sexual proclivity was to sit naked astride a phallic throne in the woods,
accompanied by a gang of prostitutes. To these orgies he would bring one or more
wagon loads of food and liquor, most of which he would consume over a period of
two days until he passed into a stupor. In his adopted state of Arkansas, Pike was
well known as a practitioner of Satanism, Portraits of his later years show him
wearing a symbol of the Baphomet around his neck."
-Scarlet and the Beast, John Daniel, vol 1
"Masonry gives rogues and evil-minded charact

Time to Switch to The Scarlet and the Beast (available HERE (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf/scarlet_beast.pdf)) and a rather long extract from it.

The Rosicrucians
A century before the Masonic Lodges united in London in 1717, the workingman
guilds were infiltrated by a secret society called Rose Croix (Rose Cross), or the
Rosicrucians. Rosicrucians distinguished themselves from the "operative" or working
masons, calling themselves "speculative" masons, because of their understanding of
esoteric or speculative theory. Soon these speculative masons outnumbered the
operative masons, taking control of hundreds of loose-knit masonic lodges
throughout England.
The Encyclopedia Americana provides us with a conventional, if generally accurate,
summary of Rosicrucian doctrine: Rosicrucians generally believe that everything in the universe is permeated by
the Divine. Once man is initiated into awareness of the divinity within himself, he
as the microcosm of the universe can control its forces. So empowered, he can
lessen the evils of suffering and ignorance. These lofty pantheistic and humanistic
doctrines are often mixed with elements of alchemy, astrology, and the occult.46
The Rosicrucians emerged in Europe during the upheaval of the Reformation and
Counter-Reformation. While actually a gnostic association ("gnostic" from the Greek,
meaning "knowledge seekers"), Rosicrucianism was associated with Protestantism,
and in fact helped fund the Protestant movement.
The Rosicrucians developed a deceptive blend of Christianity with their paganism to
attract Protestant Reformers to their Order. Weak in Scriptural doctrine, the newly
emerging Protestants had no conviction against affiliation with the Rosicrucians.
Some of these Reformers joined in alliance with the Rosicrucians to fight what they
saw as a common enemy - the Catholic Church. Theological differences were
overlooked and gradually syncretized.
The Rosicrucians, however, were less interested in religion than they were in
politics.47 For example, in England they attracted to their ranks members of the
gentry, the newly rich of the middle and upper classes in British society. The new
class wanted a political voice, without which they would lose through greedy taxation
what they had gained.
Their ultimate goal was "to reform the human race by the extermination of kings
and all regal powers. "48 What they settled for was a constitutional monarchy and an
elected parliament, through which they would have a political voice and by which
they could protect their worldly goods from excessive taxation. "Absolute Monarchy
must be changed to a Constitutional Monarchy for our protection," they demanded.49
In England they achieved their goal with the "Glorious Revolution" of 1688, which
will be examined at length in Chapter 2. In this revolution, the Stuart dynasty, which
succeeded the unmarried and childless Elizabeth I, was overthrown.
The Rosicrucians are important for being the first to plant the seeds of revolutionary
thought in Masonic Lodges. The Rosicrucian order in Great Britain saw the chance for
rapid expansion of their secret society through the operative masonic guilds of
Protestant England. Nesta Webster, in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements,
quotes a lecture given in 1883 by 33rd degree Mason, John Yarker, who in turn
quotes from a Masonic book, History of Freemasonry, by Robert F.
"It is evident therefore that the Rosicrucians.. found the operative Guild conveniently ready to their hand, and grafted upon it their own mysteries.. also,
from this time Rosicrucianism disappears and Freemasonry springs into life with all
the possessions of the former. "50
After the Glorious Revolution, Englishmen became free, that is, they were entrusted
with certain rights. Masons took the name Freemasons, which means "Free and
accepted Masons." Mackey elaborates in the Encyclopedia of Freemasonry:
In reference to the other sense of free as meaning not bound, not in captivity, it
is a rule of Freemasonry that no one can be initiated who is at the time restrained
of his liberty. The Grand Lodge of England extends this doctrine, that Freemasons
should be free in all their thoughts and actions...
As noted above, Rosicrucianism is an hermetic religion. "Hermetic," a word derived
from the Greek god Hermes, messenger of the gods and god of many trades, is a
term that indicates the mystical, magical or occult sciences.52 The Rosicrucians were
heavily involved in occult
sciences, and in alchemy they were noted leaders.
Nesta Webster, again in Secret Societies and Subversive Movements, when discussing
three centuries of occultism in Europe and England leading up to the formation of
Masonic Lodges as we know them today, remarks on the Rosicrucians' reputation of
hiring poisoners and assassins:
[T]he intellectual chiefs [Rosicrucians] from whom the poisoners derived their
inspiration were men versed in chemistry, in science, in physics, and the treatment
of diseases.... [T]hey included alchemists and people professing to be in possession
of the Philosopher's stone....53

I see. From the above I was particularly interested in this tidbit:

Their ultimate goal was "to reform the human race by the extermination of kings
and all regal powers. "48

What they settled for was a constitutional monarchy and an
elected parliament, through which they would have a political voice and by which
they could protect their worldly goods from excessive taxation

Nothing very spiritual about that as far as I can see, because it all seems to be about “protecting their wealthy goods”. The real game seems to be different to that altogether. It’s about power and wealth. But the use of occult techniques to unleash that energy flow and apply it as the operator. or operators, require in order to achieve their determined goal.

I am currently wading through The Scarlet and the Beast and at first blush it seems very well researched and written. I am particularly taken with Chapter 1 the general background and Chapter 2 about the conflict between English and French masonry that broke out in the Glorious Revolution of 1688. We always tend to see government as a homogenous unit and I suppose we always tend to see Masonry as a homogenous unit too. Evidently it is foolhardy to hold this perception.

If the foregoing is to be believed and held to be correct, then the American Revolution and the French Revolution were Masonic events to a greater or lesser degree. We might after some reflection consider adding the Russian Revolution to this list too. Tony Sutton’s book, Wall Street and the Bolshivik Revolution (HERE (http://www.voltairenet.org/IMG/pdf/Sutton_Wall_Street_and_the_bolshevik_revolution-5.pdf)) implies this, although I feel sure that Tony hadn’t stumbled across that component when he wrote it. This probably occurred to him later when he wrote his four thin volumes on The Order of the Skull & Bones - and yet I never remember him mentioning Masonry at all. So perhaps it didn’t. But the internet has brought to the public domain such a vast wealth of information that would have been impossible to obtain in prior times. As we now know, Skull and Bones is a Templar Order of Freemasonry.

The next quote is again from The Scarlet and the Beast. It’s brief but to the point.

In 1840, the clandestine or Continental lodges went atheistic, spawning socialism
and communism. Thirty-second degree Grand Orient Freemason Karl Marx became
their spokesman, planning under Masonic guidance the replacement of all monarchies
with socialistic republics, with the next step conversion to communistic republics.

Immediately followed by this little gem:

Although these two fraternities continue to war with each other, they are still
brothers - and brothers stand together when fighting a common enemy.
Freemasonry's common enemy was initially the Catholic Church. Today it is all
Christendom. As each Masonic order tries to dominate the other, Scarlet and the
Beast will always unite against the Church.

Mmm. Maybe. Or maybe the target has now changed and been updated to encompass all “dogmatic religions” to use Pike’s terminology?

Or maybe I’m barking up the wrong tree altogether and masonry actually is warm and cuddly and innocent and where friends get together to play boys games, do some business - some of it crooked - and get pissed (and having once attended an annual Ladies Night at one lodge, I can certainly say they really do get very, very pissed).

Butt I don’t think so...

Michael Barwell
01-15-2016, 04:19 PM
I used to get alot of "pike/Pike" and I wouldn't be in the least surprised if the shitehounds anything from believe in and just klepto-ref this stuff to take the piss. Either way, tho' there's undoubtedly alot more refs here to be had (I've just started using the term "cabal" of the diahorrea artists myself, only a wee few days ago), there's nothing to be gained by it.

Something tho' that I've considered, is Freemasons (yeah, sure, and why not), but the way the landowners in Brit talk of "The land" absolutley needing to be "managed". Always struck me as odd, that. Very kontroling, I mean, what do they think is going to happen to the land if it's not managed? It's soil an' that - no-ones going to nick it an' call it Belgium. But it IS that 'control' thing, and Britains landowners being who they are, will likely be Freemasons, and they're the ones who want to exercise that control. And there's a subtext there.

I remember a long time ago, a pal of mine met some semi-self regarding bigwig an' shook his hand and told me "I just got it wrong somehow - the handshake, but this fella suddenly startled and started treating me with a great deal of respect. Must've thought I was a 'Mason >lol<". Bloody wallys.

Magda Hassan
01-23-2016, 10:38 AM
It just occurred to me today that our Prime Minister's official Canberra residence is called 'The Lodge'. Now, there may be historical reasons for that as I have never checked it out but I did find it interesting....

David Guyatt
01-23-2016, 01:54 PM
It just occurred to me today that our Prime Minister's official Canberra residence is called 'The Lodge'. Now, there may be historical reasons for that as I have never checked it out but I did find it interesting....

My grandfather's house was called "The Lodge". He inherited it from his grandfather via his great auntie. And my great, great grandfather who had the pile built in the first instance was a well known Freemason in a certain well known naval port where he was the Harbour Master.

So my guess is that any building called the Lodge will have a Masonic history.

Magda Hassan
01-23-2016, 03:34 PM
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7967&stc=1 https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=7968&stc=1

Sorry off topic but the new Canberra Parliament House, designed by an Italian, has always bothered me. The flag and flag pole looks so much like a fascist emblem with the flag looking like the axe head and the supporting poles like fascii bundle. And there it is for all to see crowning the apex of Australian political life.